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Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
Nostalgia doesn’t just become okay because you were born in the era.

There may not be any important plot points revolving around Quill’s nostalgia, but it does form the basis of his personality and even most of his relationships. This is a man who couldn’t talk about his own father without bringing up David Hasselhoff.

It’s not even particularly insulting that RPO bases plot points based off its own characters’ knowledge of pop culture, but it is a movie where Spielberg spins his wheels and mainly imitates more recent and actually progress-making filmmakers.

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R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

yeah in a movie series where the main character says "you shouldn't have killed my mom and smashed my walkman" like they're equal offenses it seems like fair game to talk emotional stunting via nostalgia

Scoops My Goops
Dec 3, 2004

by Reene

R. Guyovich posted:

yeah in a movie series where the main character says "you shouldn't have killed my mom and smashed my walkman" like they're equal offenses it seems like fair game to talk emotional stunting via nostalgia

It's not a walkman, it's literally the only piece of his mother he has left. He didn't risk being recaptured in the first movie because he wanted to listen to some sick tunes, it was because it was literally the only connection to Earth and her that he had left.

"You shouldn't have killed my mom and smashed my walkman" isn't putting them on an even plane, but it IS showing the walkman was valuable to him

For all the talk of emotional stunting in this thread, it's kind of funny people aren't seeing its significance beyond a music player

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Pirate Jet posted:

It’s pretty funny to see nerds on the internet insult Ready Player One for being a movie where a boring milquetoast white boy gets everything he wants in life for knowing a lot about the 80’s, and then will immediately turn around and praise Guardians of the Galaxy.
This hot take is Ernest Cline-tier.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


General Dog posted:

Also think about the level of cultural stagnation we've reached already, especially when it comes to movies. Let's look at the top grossing movies of 2017 and when their series/characters originated

1. Star Wars: The Last Jedi (1977)
2. Beauty and the Beast (1991 (Disney) or 1946 (the French one) or 1740 (the book))
3. Wonder Woman (1941)
4. Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle (1995 (movie) or 1981 (book))
5. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (1969, 2008 for those characters)
6. Spider-Man: Homecoming (1962)
7. It (1986)
8. Thor: Ragnarok (1962)
9. Despicable Me 3 (2010)
10. Justice League (all but one of them date back to the 1940s)
11. Logan (1974)
12. Fate of the Furious (2001)

So you could wake someone up who's been in a coma since 1995 and show them this list, and for 8 or 9 out of 12 they could say, "yes, I'm basically familiar with what this is".

$200+ million dollar films, which most of those are, are rarely a good place to start looking for new, never-before-seen concepts. No one makes a bet that big without good reason.

PS1 Hagrid
Sep 17, 2007

Dang the crowd at the end made their signs REALLY fast.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Pirate Jet posted:

Nostalgia doesn’t just become okay because you were born in the era.

There may not be any important plot points revolving around Quill’s nostalgia, but it does form the basis of his personality and even most of his relationships. This is a man who couldn’t talk about his own father without bringing up David Hasselhoff.

It’s not even particularly insulting that RPO bases plot points based off its own characters’ knowledge of pop culture, but it is a movie where Spielberg spins his wheels and mainly imitates more recent and actually progress-making filmmakers.

in GotG, Quill's relation of everything to pop culture is a character trait that he developed because he was stolen from the middle of his childhood and is essentially in arrested development (the condition, not the show).

in RPO, everyone is Peter Quill, and the plot is one Peter Quill trying to use that arrested development to win a big magical prize against a bunch of other Peter Quills from a magical dead Peter Quill who invented a video game who wants everyone to have the same arrested development he had.

OWLS!
Sep 17, 2009

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
A competent director tries his lazy damdest with garbage source material. End result is exactly the kind of nerd bait movie nerd culture deserves. Nerds, unsurprisingly, hate it, because looking into a mirror sucks.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Well, yeah. But it's also helpful to grow as a person.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
The Dr. Steve Brule aesthetic of Jim Halliday cannot be stressed enough. I was half expecting him to start shouting about sweet berry wine or how casino hunks will break your bones if you talk to them with a sass mouth.

It's almost too obvious, which makes me think Spielberg is a Check It Out fan.

Terry Bruge-Hiplo would've made this movie incredible.

Gonz fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Apr 2, 2018

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Gonz posted:

The Dr. Steve Brule aesthetic of Jim Halliday cannot be stressed enough. I was half expecting him to start shouting about sweet berry wine or how casino hunks will break your bones if you talk to them with a sass mouth.

It's almost too obvious, which makes me think Spielberg is a Check It Out fan.

Terry Bruge-Hiplo would've made this movie incredible.

Thank you. I was laughing way too much at him for this.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

CelticPredator posted:

Thank you. I was laughing way too much at him for this.

I was just waiting for Jan & Wayne Skylar to show up in one of those holo-museum scenes.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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I have my parter here Dr. Grunden Morrson, he helped me make the new game called the Orasis. It's where you can go be anything you want even Sranta Claus Hehuh... you can even be a super hunk like me.

For your gaaammmee

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

dont even fink about it posted:

$200+ million dollar films, which most of those are, are rarely a good place to start looking for new, never-before-seen concepts. No one makes a bet that big without good reason.

Yeah, that's the point; that's where we are right now. It hasn't always been that way. Let's go 20 years back in time.



I'm counting just five in the top 20 and two in the top 10 based on existing IP. Go to 2017 and it's all of the top ten and fourteen-ish of the top 20. That's a pretty striking evolution in 20 years.

General Dog fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Apr 2, 2018

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Kazoo Reverb posted:

It's not a walkman, it's literally the only piece of his mother he has left. He didn't risk being recaptured in the first movie because he wanted to listen to some sick tunes, it was because it was literally the only connection to Earth and her that he had left.

"You shouldn't have killed my mom and smashed my walkman" isn't putting them on an even plane, but it IS showing the walkman was valuable to him

For all the talk of emotional stunting in this thread, it's kind of funny people aren't seeing its significance beyond a music player

You're trying to justify a character being a manchild by the movie's in-universe logic.

That line where he equates the loss of his mother with the loss of an electronic gadget is just an example of GotG's stillborn satire. Pratt's indignant delivery of the line is pretty funny, but people insist on taking it seriously because they've internalized the movie's manchild logic.

Katamari Democracy
Jan 19, 2010

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I read the book and I hated it. I got hyped when I saw the trailer even knowing very well that it could potentially be a dumpster fire. Honestly? I enjoyed the movie! Not the best movie I have ever seen but it's one of the better films I have seen this year. I have low standards, I know. Saw it in Imax 3D and it a good way to spend 21 dollars.

Went into a theatre with hardly anyone in there but the amount of people who attended were about my age: 30+, geeks, sung along to the music ques like with Van Halen's 'Jump' and Twisted sister's 'Were not gonna take it'. The energy from the audience got alive for those brief moments were the magic of the music kinda set well with what was happening on the screen.

When The shining happened I could hear everyone around me go "Oh GOD no" and I was not disappointed. I was surprised that it was almost side by side comparison of the movie in the spoiler.

I know goons like to make fun of this book / movie but I do have some nit picks. Like the intro to explain the vast universe and how hey you can have sex here if you wanted to kinda got a groan out of me. And even though the ending of the movie is somewhat religious in taking a break every Tuesday and Thursday as both actors are pecking at each others lips made me cringe a bit. There were other cringy moments like this in the film but it was better presented than it was in that god forsaken book.

Long story short the movie isn't a side by side comparison of the book and thank goodness it's not. It's not the best movie either by any means but if you can help to see it in 3D you might not be dissappointed. Just shut your brain off and enjoy the ride. If you can do this as if you enjoyed Mad Max: Fury Road; you might get some kinda enjoyment out of this movie.

E- Also what in the hell was up with James Halliday? That was some awkward acting he was presenting...

Katamari Democracy fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Apr 2, 2018

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!
RPO was okay enough. I don't have a strong opinion about it, but I have a hot take. Are the popcult characters really easter eggs when it's a movie about them?

The alien skull in Predators 2 is an easter egg. It could go over your head and isn't at all important to the movie because they hadn't had time to make the god awful AvP movies yet.

Bowser in Wreck-It Ralph isn't an easter egg, but a minor cast member. The more guys you recognize in the Bad Guys Anon scene, the better it gets the point across.

Scoops My Goops
Dec 3, 2004

by Reene

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

You're trying to justify a character being a manchild by the movie's in-universe logic.

That line where he equates the loss of his mother with the loss of an electronic gadget is just an example of GotG's stillborn satire. Pratt's indignant delivery of the line is pretty funny, but people insist on taking it seriously because they've internalized the movie's manchild logic.

Beep boop do not comprehend emotions

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Katamari Democracy posted:

E- Also what in the hell was up with James Halliday? That was some awkward acting he was presenting...

An Englishman doing an American accent and trying to stack a mildly autistic affect on top of that. It's a little much to ask of anybody, but Mark Rylance is Spielberg's binky now, so watchyagonnado

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

MajorB posted:

fwiw i was actually totally expecting this movie to end with the oasis getting released into the public domain, i think that would have been a better ending

i feel like being presented with the same contract in real life that he rejected in the game was a total setup for this, like that contract was also a trap

You want Sword Art Online.

Just kidding, no one wants that.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

General Dog posted:

An Englishman doing an American accent and trying to stack a mildly autistic affect on top of that. It's a little much to ask of anybody, but Mark Rylance is Spielberg's binky now, so watchyagonnado

with zero exaggeration, he's the world's greatest living actor.

Azubah
Jun 5, 2007

hiddenriverninja posted:

You want Sword Art Online.

Just kidding, no one wants that.

It had a decent start and the side stories at the end were good.

Its everything in the middle that's awful.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

R. Guyovich posted:

with zero exaggeration, he's the world's greatest living actor.

He's no Michael Shannon

AttackBacon
Nov 19, 2010
DEEP FRIED DIARRHEA
I didn't mind the movie even though I expected to hate it. It was a solid "meh" on the reaction scale. Absolutely detest everything about the book.

What did drive me up the wall was the fact that over and over it showed people playing outside, or at their job, or whatever. What the gently caress? Who the gently caress is going to go outside with a VR mask on? On the sidewalk? Sounds like a good way to get your rear end hit by a truck. It was loving stupid.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

AttackBacon posted:

I didn't mind the movie even though I expected to hate it. It was a solid "meh" on the reaction scale. Absolutely detest everything about the book.

What did drive me up the wall was the fact that over and over it showed people playing outside, or at their job, or whatever. What the gently caress? Who the gently caress is going to go outside with a VR mask on? On the sidewalk? Sounds like a good way to get your rear end hit by a truck. It was loving stupid.

I think it's meant to look silly

TheKeeper
Jul 18, 2003

Quantum Shit

AttackBacon posted:

What did drive me up the wall was the fact that over and over it showed people playing outside, or at their job, or whatever. What the gently caress? Who the gently caress is going to go outside with a VR mask on? On the sidewalk? Sounds like a good way to get your rear end hit by a truck. It was loving stupid.

I could be wrong, but it did seem like the headset displays were semi-transparent.

Of course it would have been humorous if on the edges of some shots it showed people walking in to walls and slamming in to non-headset wearing pedestrians.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


TheKeeper posted:

I could be wrong, but it did seem like the headset displays were semi-transparent.

Nah, the trick they pulled on Sorrento only works if the headsets are completely immersive.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Kazoo Reverb posted:

Beep boop do not comprehend emotions

The joke is specifically based on comprehending emotions - if you don't understand the depths of Star-Lord's despair and anger, you will never appreciate how funny it is when it's directed towards a Sony Walkman.

BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Apr 3, 2018

Flesnolk
Apr 11, 2012
Nuke Finland.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Sir Kodiak posted:

Nah, the trick they pulled on Sorrento only works if the headsets are completely immersive.

His was different than everyone else's. His was better than everyone's but since he wasn't a true gamer every aspect that made his better came to backfire on him. Like his had top of the line immersive visuals and that tricked him it was real, his had top of the line security and it meant he needed to write passwords on sticky notes and his had top of the line penis haptics and that let him get kicked in the dick. I don't think anyone else's VR worked like his did. If people were walking around outside then they could see somehow that is just not mentioned.

Scoops My Goops
Dec 3, 2004

by Reene

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

The joke is specifically based on comprehending emotions - if you don't understand the depths of Star-Lord's despair and anger, you will never appreciate how funny it is when it's directed towards a Sony Walkman.

I take it you never lost someone at a young age and had one physical object that linked you to them emotionally.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Kazoo Reverb posted:

I take it you never lost someone at a young age and had one physical object that linked you to them emotionally.

No, I regularly cry over the collection of 80s memorabilia that my father left behind.

Scoops My Goops
Dec 3, 2004

by Reene

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

No, I regularly cry over the collection of 80s memorabilia that my father left behind.

haha for real though, beep boop

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

No, I regularly cry over the collection of 80s memorabilia that my father left behind.

Are you being an internet tough guy about being not sad about your own father's death? What the hell.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

Are you being an internet tough guy about being not sad about your own father's death? What the hell.

Hint: my father is not dead. Nor does he have a collection of 80s memorabilia.

e: I do like the implication that I am supposed to cry over my hypothetical dead parent's hypothetical 80s memorabilia.

BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Apr 3, 2018

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
There's a lot of conspicuous focus on the one redheaded staffer/puzzle solver in the IOI office; I was expecting her to turn out to be Sam's sister or something.

henpod
Mar 7, 2008

Sir, we have located the Bioweapon.
College Slice
Movie was fine I guess - could have been a lot worse, considering the source material, but I feel like Spielbergo could have done with a better script. I think the thing that was missing most for me, was the scale of the tasks, and the competition to find the eggs. In the book, it takes (i think) months for parcival to even find the first key. And how many people were looking for it as well. I don't know, it just seemed bigger in the books.

Also, having the chick be an attractive girl, rather than as described in the books was pretty funny. I also seem to remember, he was a bit of a dumpy nerd in the books as well. At least they had the lesbian black chick.

Anyway, film was a 6.5/10 - some creative ideas, but dragged on at the end and missed out on some of the elements that made it interesting.

Scoops My Goops
Dec 3, 2004

by Reene

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Hint: my father is not dead. Nor does he have a collection of 80s memorabilia.

e: I do like the implication that I am supposed to cry over my hypothetical dead parent's hypothetical 80s memorabilia.

The implication is that if you were kidnapped and ripped from everything you knew as a child, immediately after your only parent died, and you had one object to remember them by, you would value it more than if it were just a random-rear end Sony Walkman.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Hint: my father is not dead. Nor does he have a collection of 80s memorabilia.

e: I do like the implication that I am supposed to cry over my hypothetical dead parent's hypothetical 80s memorabilia.

so like, you are an internet tough guy about the whole abstract concept of having mementos of people close to you that have died creating an emotion in a living person?

Wow man, you are very strong. For the rest of the conversation just accept most humans aren't as cool and manly as you and often feel emotion from things that remind them of dead loved ones, like little baby wimps.

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Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Hint: my father is not dead. Nor does he have a collection of 80s memorabilia.

e: I do like the implication that I am supposed to cry over my hypothetical dead parent's hypothetical 80s memorabilia.

Empathy is a hard concept for psychopaths to grasp, just sayin.

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