|
chernobyl kinsman posted:elena ferrante has a piece out in the Guardian A piece of poo poo!!!
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 03:13
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 4, 2024 20:45 |
|
|
CestMoi posted:Young Thug deserves the Pulitzer over Kendrick young thug deserves the medal of honor
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 03:16
|
|
|
I have probably a negative knowledge or ability to appreciate/understand hip hop, but I listened to drat and thought it sounded drat good
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 03:24
|
|
|
I looked at the list of recent pulitzer winners and idk why you would look to that for fiction recommendations
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 04:20
|
|
|
Officer Sandvich posted:I looked at the list of recent pulitzer winners and idk why you would look to that for fiction recommendations I'm sure I've posted this before, but quote:The Pulitzer Prize in fiction takes dead aim at mediocrity and almost never misses.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 05:10
|
|
|
Mel Mudkiper posted:So anyways, Babyfucker is a series of Beckett inspired vignettes without any clear sense of reality or coherence. It's not at all shocking as much as its patently absurd. Literary Dadaism. The messages are all entangled, I must disentangle them to get the messages
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 07:48
|
|
|
Mrenda posted:Has anyone read Samanta Schweblin's Fever Dream (nominated for the Booker a few years ago.) This was the article that put me onto it. https://lithub.com/samanta-schweblin-on-revealing-darkness-through-fiction/ I've read a collection of her short stories and liked them quite a bit. They were really violent and out of sentimentality I didn't like the story in which the dog gets killed.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 08:49
|
|
|
after an extended break from faulkner i went back and finished sanctuary. it's real good. but it's the bleakest of his novels that i've read. even absalom, absalom was about the incestuous south consuming its own time and itself. sanctuary is a treatise on how much sense evil makes. everything gets hosed up. you're only content when you're dead, because you realize that evil is logical, and the world operates according to that logic. good poo poo. i'm starting vineland next because gravity's rainbow seems too daunting at the moment.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 09:18
|
|
|
Unless you've read the rest of his books, maybe don't read Vineland next. It's fine, I like it, but it's his worst novel. Edit: Just get through part 1 of Gravity's Rainbow. It opens up and becomes easier to follow immediately after, and Part 1 has some of the book's funniest and weirdest sections. Franchescanado fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Apr 17, 2018 |
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 12:06
|
|
|
And its still aggressively wrong
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 13:30
|
|
|
Foul Fowl posted:
Just read GR.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 13:55
|
|
|
I just ordered Fever Dream and Beckett's Murphy. The Beckett was suggested to me by a guy I know from the pub (an artist and big reader) who read a short story of mine and said I'd get a lot out of it if I could get a hold of Beckett's ideas beyond the madness.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 14:15
|
|
|
J_RBG posted:Kendrick Lamar deserves a Pulitzer more than Bob Dylan deserves a Nobel but his win shows that rap will replace jazz as the modish black art appropriated by upper-middle-class white intelligentsia #myhottake "will"?
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 14:17
|
|
|
to be fair if American music was limited solely to what white people produced we would all still be listening to people blowing into jugs
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 14:19
|
|
|
Can you lot please not talk about music actually
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 14:45
|
|
|
I only listen to Townes Van Zandt and Townes Van Zandt amalgams
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 14:46
|
|
|
Franchescanado posted:Unless you've read the rest of his books, maybe don't read Vineland next. It's fine, I like it, but it's his worst novel. i've decided, after some reflection and soul-searching that, if people are unwilling to "tackle" GR or Mason & Dixon due to their lengths, but want to try pynchon, they should read inherent vice, even though it's probably the least pynchon-y pynchon.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 14:55
|
|
|
Tree Goat posted:i've decided, after some reflection and soul-searching that, if people are unwilling to "tackle" GR or Mason & Dixon due to their lengths, but want to try pynchon, they should read inherent vice, even though it's probably the least pynchon-y pynchon. I think that IV has EVERYTHING that makes Pynchon Pynchon, it just also happens to be emotionally fulfilling, mostly lucid and with an actual conclusion. Vineland comes close to that, but it just feels like everyone gave up on editing it to just publish it. Vineland is his most sentimental, though, compared to IV's nostalgia. I still plan on reading/finishing M&D this year.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 15:02
|
|
|
Ras Het posted:Can you lot please not talk about music actually You brought it up!
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 15:10
|
|
|
That's why I said actually
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 15:12
|
|
|
Franchescanado posted:I think that IV has EVERYTHING that makes Pynchon Pynchon, it just also happens to be emotionally fulfilling, mostly lucid and with an actual conclusion. Vineland comes close to that, but it just feels like everyone gave up on editing it to just publish it. Vineland is his most sentimental, though, compared to IV's nostalgia. you can't read v in an afternoon, though
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 15:19
|
|
|
Tree Goat posted:you can't read v in an afternoon, though True, but I can't read any book in an afternoon. I'm a slow reader
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 15:23
|
|
|
Lol if you read fewer than 800 wpm
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 15:26
|
|
|
new verse beowulf get hyped https://twitter.com/MARIADAHVANA/status/986023541639405569
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 15:59
|
|
|
Tree Goat posted:new verse beowulf get hyped I need to see how she translates Hwaet before I get hyped
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 16:01
|
|
|
we really dont need new translations of beowulf, the aeneid, the odyssey, the iliad, or sir gawain and the green knight. it's okay to stop for a while, now.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 16:05
|
|
|
When's the last time someone tackled the Decameron We need a good Decameron
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 16:12
|
|
|
The Crying of Lot 49 is always the best entry point to Pynchon. You can definitely read GR after that.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 16:14
|
|
|
Mel Mudkiper posted:When's the last time someone tackled the Decameron do all the really weird medieval Welsh poems about king arthur fighting werewolves and talking to birds and descending into Hell. no one reads those besides academics bc theres only like one translation and it sells for $2k on amazon
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 16:20
|
|
|
chernobyl kinsman posted:do all the really weird medieval Welsh poems about king arthur fighting werewolves and talking to birds and descending into Hell. no one reads those besides academics bc theres only like one translation and it sells for $2k on amazon I worry if we let the larger world know there are stories about King Arthur fighting werewolves it would mean someone would make a lets read thread
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 16:21
|
|
|
Let's Fix the Arthurian Mythos
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 16:23
|
|
|
WASDF posted:The Crying of Lot 49 is always the best entry point to Pynchon. You can definitely read GR after that. strong disagree on that one. while i think it gets a bad rap, it's def. not his strongest. i could see a lot of people who would bounce off of lot 49 and extrapolate from there to not wanting to tackle any of his others.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 16:24
|
|
|
Tree Goat posted:strong disagree on that one. while i think it gets a bad rap, it's def. not his strongest. i could see a lot of people who would bounce off of lot 49 and extrapolate from there to not wanting to tackle any of his others. It was my first Pynchon, and I loved it, but I agree with this. It was Inherent Vice and V. that made me a fan. Even Pynchon dislikes Lot 49.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 16:34
|
|
|
WASDF posted:The Crying of Lot 49 is always the best entry point to Pynchon. You can definitely read GR after that. It's short but it's really dense and discursive. I'd recommend Inherent Vice or even Bleeding Edge as a starting point for a new reader. Bleeding Edge would definitely help a new reader understand how Pynchon uses the culture to construct his works.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 16:43
|
|
|
I guess it could be off-putting, but I think it's fun, interesting and small enough that you can't really make a mistake. It would be worse, I think, to read Inherent Vice or Bleeding Edge and then get to GR and be spun for how weird and intimidating it is.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 16:46
|
|
|
i've read crying of lot 49 and loved it. vineland i chose because i had it on my shelf and i'm writing on pynchon for uni and there's 0% chance i'll be able to finish GR on time. but it's on my list of books to read over summer.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 16:46
|
|
|
With Pynchon I wanted to jump straight into the deep end, so I've only read Gravity's Rainbow and Against the Day.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 17:01
|
|
|
i got gravity rainbow but the first word was 'A' and i was like ugh wtf and gave up
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 17:09
|
|
|
M&d was my first pyncheob
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 17:12
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 4, 2024 20:45 |
|
|
derp posted:i got gravity rainbow but the first word was 'A' and i was like ugh wtf and gave up The second word would probably have you screaming, so it's best you stopped before you really started.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2018 17:17
|
|