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The traitor is one of Deku's shoes
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it's the one they didn't hold up
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May 20, 2018 05:31
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The students didn't know where the training camp was going to be held. I guess it's possible someone texted the League of Villains after they arrived or something but they were way out in the middle of the forest, I'd be surprised if they had a signal.
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May 20, 2018 07:23
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The Lord of Hats posted:I mean, comparing him to Deku is kind of unfair. Yeah, his quirk doesn't match up to OfA, but basically no enhancement quirk does. He kind of suffers from the fact that his power is so similar to the protagonist's so he pretty much can't be allowed to be good. The foot of concrete was only after making himself pretty stupid, though (IIRC). And remember, this is the most elite hero school, so you'd imagine most of the people there would be the leading heroes of tomorrow. It's hard to think of any other powers in their class that don't have some sort of noteworthy versatility to them. Closest might be Ojiro, but his tail still gives him high mobility and stuff. I feel like a more thematically appropriate manifestation of his power would be one giving super speed instead of strength when he eats sugar.
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May 20, 2018 07:42
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I find it odd that there even needs to be a traitor based solely on the fact that the camp was attacked. It's not like the kids were secreted away under strict protection, they took buses from the school most of the way. Anyone motivated enough to do so probably could have figured it out.
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May 20, 2018 07:50
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They also had a plan of attack for the camp, tailored to the area. Dabi burning part of the forest, Mustard poisoning another, targeting the Pussycats and working around their abilities/taking out the ones most capable of thwarting their plans first while kidnapping Ragdoll (though I can't remember if her getting nabbed was improvised admittedly), etc. They knew where the kids were going in advance. The attack clearly wasn't improvised.
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May 20, 2018 08:09
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AfO specifically mentions that he had wanted Ragdoll's quirk for a while, so I would guess her being kidnapped was planned. She also isn't being carried by the Noumu when the villains meet at the end which means she was probably teleported out specifically.
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May 20, 2018 08:16
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IIRC the villains arrive a day before they actually attack so they had time to come up with a plan and scout the area. However in the anime at least Shigaraki indicates that AfO finds out where they're going before the students arrive, which would indicate its a teacher or someone like Hagakure who could pilfer the info without people knowing. fractalairduct posted:The students didn't know where the training camp was going to be held. I guess it's possible someone texted the League of Villains after they arrived or something but they were way out in the middle of the forest, I'd be surprised if they had a signal. One of the strongest parts of the Kaminari theory is that he's one of the few who could conceivably create a signal to track without them knowing about it.
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May 20, 2018 08:49
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LostRook posted:AfO specifically mentions that he had wanted Ragdoll's quirk for a while, so I would guess her being kidnapped was planned. She also isn't being carried by the Noumu when the villains meet at the end which means she was probably teleported out specifically. Thanks; I remembered him commenting on liking her quirk and taking it, but couldn't remember if he said he had wanted it previously or just took advantage of it falling into his hands. Further proof they knew everything in advance then, since that definitely means they knew the Pussycats would be there.
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May 20, 2018 09:41
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Remember that the class had to trek to the cabin through he woods first, which took at least a few hours. Meaning any communication between when the buses dropped them off and when they arrived at the cabins would have details like "the pussycats are here" and "we were dropped off by bus here and are heading north to some cabins". So when the villains arrive that night, they could formulate their plan and attack the next day. Now, the real issue is how do they communicate with the VA without anyone noticing? That's who's gonna be on the list of traitors. Anyway until the manga brings it up all speculation is pointless, we still have shockingly few hard clues and the manga seems more inclined to dunk on us than reveal it's hand.
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May 20, 2018 10:05
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I'm actually glad the author put out that there is a traitor, because it drives people loving insane regardless whether they like it or not.
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May 20, 2018 12:02
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The real traitor was the friends we made along the way.
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May 20, 2018 15:15
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Now, the real issue is how do they communicate with the VA without anyone noticing? That's who's gonna be on the list of traitors.
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May 20, 2018 15:34
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:By crafting a cell phone and calling them. The traitor is Dr. Stone!?
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May 20, 2018 15:35
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My idea is that Shoji's the traitor. His extra limbs could turn into eyes, ears or even a mouth to talk through (See: the time Mineta asked him to team up in the sports festival). Plus, he didn't seem too nonplussed at having his replicated arm cut off when Moonfish attacked him and Tokoyami. Though I admit this all depends on the idea that Shoji's quirk is stronger than he lets on, to do either one of the following: - His replicated ears have super hearing to eavesdrop on plans, or he keeps sprouting fingers with an ear at the end and slither it to hear the teachers planning stuff. - He can actually lop off or willingly remove part of his extra arms, and he's actually able to remotely control it to spy for him. - The extra arms are actually a whole other person that can detach from Shoji and they're two people working together as spies.
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May 20, 2018 16:35
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So I was always a fan of the theory that Dabi is a Todoroki but after seeing that his eye color is almost identical to Shoto's I'm pretty confident in it now.
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May 20, 2018 19:04
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The giveaway to me was that when the police kick down the door to the hideout they announce everyone's names because they're so very proud of their investigations into... a bunch of people with insanely distinct quirks and looks (including someone who literally goes by their given name and not an alias) and they name every VA member present except for Dabi.
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May 20, 2018 19:10
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What should Shigaraki's villain name be, anyways Bad Touch
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May 20, 2018 19:14
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The Todoroki Dabi thing doesn't even read as theory to me, it feels extremely obvious to the point were not doing it would feel like a twist
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May 20, 2018 19:16
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May 20, 2018 19:50
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I have a headache right now, so thanks for the cool Compress.
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May 20, 2018 19:59
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The Sandman posted:I have a headache right now, so thanks for the cool Compress. 
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May 20, 2018 20:40
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The Sandman posted:I have a headache right now, so thanks for the cool Compress. i'm reporting you
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May 20, 2018 20:50
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I was surprised to find out that Dabi has apparently burned a bunch of innocent people to death. They pretty quickly established him as a genuine "no realistic chance of in-story redemption short of heroic self-sacrifice" character.
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May 20, 2018 21:39
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i'm sure he's going to have some big moment and go vigilante anti-hero, like 'what if stain was maybe a little less aggro'. then he could be kept around while still acknowledging he has crimed too hard for full redemption but could at least be trying to atone but now we're in the wild speculation zone speaking of vigilantes, is Illegals on a break and i forgot?
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May 20, 2018 23:52
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God willing we don't get some angle where Dabi is some failed Endeavor eugenics experiment and we get some "it's better to forgive" arc where Shoto ends up saving Endeavor from Dabi.
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May 21, 2018 00:39
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i mean, we're gonna we're already on the endeavor redemption train
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May 21, 2018 00:43
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Patware posted:speaking of vigilantes, is Illegals on a break and i forgot? It's every two weeks i believe. Free to read on VIZ.
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May 21, 2018 01:22
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Patware posted:i mean, we're gonna
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May 21, 2018 01:25
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Agronox posted:It's every two weeks i believe. Free to read on VIZ. The latest chapter came out on the 12th, but no one linked it. Fabricated posted:Well the alternative swerve is Dabi killing Endeavor in some sort of redemptive self-sacrifice which would be a good way to get out of it. I doubt we'll get that though. With Endeavor being the current number 1 hero, it's only a matter of time before the League of Villains or some other bad guy targets him. He could also end up being the next victim of the quirk destroying bullets.
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May 21, 2018 01:26
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I don't recall if this was ever touched upon, but would Eraserhead looking at AfO nullify just AfO or all the quirks he had ever accumulated, too?
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May 21, 2018 01:40
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symbolic posted:I don't recall if this was ever touched upon, but would Eraserhead looking at AfO nullify just AfO or all the quirks he had ever accumulated, too?
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May 21, 2018 01:59
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Fabricated posted:It deactivates all quirks that have to be manually activated by the user. AFO couldn't use AFO itself to steal or grant quirks, nor could he use any activated quirks he has in his possession. I wonder, can AFO steal those fundamental transformation quirks in addition to activated quirks? Activated ones make sense, but what would happen if he stole, say, Tsuyu's or Mineta's quirk? Would Tsuyu revert to a normal human girl and Mineta's hair return to normal? Or, would Tsuyu just lose the ability to do froggy things like stretch her tongue and Mineta's hair would just lose the detachability and stickiness? I wonder what part of their appearance is the quirk and what part is just genetics.
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May 21, 2018 02:28
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:I wonder, can AFO steal those fundamental transformation quirks in addition to activated quirks? Activated ones make sense, but what would happen if he stole, say, Tsuyu's or Mineta's quirk? Would Tsuyu revert to a normal human girl and Mineta's hair return to normal? Or, would Tsuyu just lose the ability to do froggy things like stretch her tongue and Mineta's hair would just lose the detachability and stickiness? I wonder what part of their appearance is the quirk and what part is just genetics. I think Heteromorphic traits are basically almost a class all their own because they can be completely separate from the user's actual quirk.
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May 21, 2018 02:32
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Fabricated posted:It's not clear? He can definitely steal passively active quirks that aren't technically heteromorphic traits, like the Super Noumu's super-regeneration or impact absorption. That's what makes it interesting to think about. Tsuyu's quirk description says it lets her do anything a frog can do, but it doesn't say that it turns her into a frog. That's what makes me think her Frogginess has been passed down to her ala Tokoyami's bird head and the real quirk is the frog abilities, since her family is all frogs. If she'd been born quirkless like Deku, she'd probably look froggy but that's all. No stretchy tongue or stomach manipulation. Another one I wonder about is Sero. He can fire tape from his elbows, but the dispensers are probably part of it right? But because it's not explicitly stated, who knows. It makes me want a temporary Quirk-Swapping character to appear and make that one omake spread canon.
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May 21, 2018 03:38
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The anime thread just hit Tsukauchi-conspiracy 
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May 21, 2018 04:33
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I really shouldn't be fanning the fire but dammit, I wanna see them start down that path.
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May 21, 2018 04:35
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I wonder how long it'll take to connect him to Black Mist and Twice clone theory.
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May 21, 2018 04:38
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Isn't Todoroki's blue eye the scarred one? Admittedly I'm not sure if that's from the scarting or part of his half and half theme; but his other eye is grey.
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Mraagvpeine posted:I wonder how long it'll take to connect him to Black Mist and Twice clone theory. Wait, what's that now?
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