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Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

Jaded Burnout posted:

I’ve been wondering why the installer bothered putting a security lock in the back door when the hinges are on the outside.

Locks are to keep honest people honest anyway. Anyone who would take your door off the hinges would find tossing a rock through a ground floor window a lot faster.

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MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo

Jaded Burnout posted:

I’ve been wondering why the installer bothered putting a security lock in the back door when the hinges are on the outside.

That's super cheap to fix. You pull out a single screw from at least the top and bottom hinge and put a security pin in its place.

3x pins. You can find them cheaper. https://www.amazon.com/HINGEMATETM-DOOR-SECURITY-PINS-PACK/dp/B01HRPW5D0

It completely prevents people people knocking the hinge pins out and taking the door off.


Anti-kick reinforcement kits are reasonably priced too: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01GWF2R70/ref=pd_aw_fbt_60_img_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=SVCBEWVKY1YA0Y1DS7ZM Goes well with replacing those half/inch screws in pre-hung doors.

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo
Double post, and I'm not sure what thread this is best in, but enjoy this collapsed bridge

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.
"Okay, you live here now. Bye!"

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

It's now waterfront property.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

Collateral Damage posted:

It's now waterbottom property.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Look we could argue about who's at fault here but that's all water under the bridge now.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

MisterOblivious posted:

Double post, and I'm not sure what thread this is best in, but enjoy this collapsed bridge



Assuming the home is potentially salvageable, I wonder if it’s cheaper to get specialists in there to save the thing or to just demolish everything and clean up the debris.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


I'm p impressed with that prefab home's structural strength but why the heck move the whole drat thing in one piece?

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
As a company that makes prefabs, you have to decide which will cost more: assembly on site coupled with multiple, but cheaper transports, or ONE BIG FUKKEN TRANSPORT that may cost a lot, but minimal assembly on site.

The equation must have tipped towards the latter.


E: there's a small chance that it's someone actually moving out of their mobile home park (99PI just had an episode about this, actually -- people are getting kicked out of mobile home parks because they usually don't own the land, even for double or triple-wide homes) and paying the $15-20k cost to do so. A lot of manufactured homes can't be disassembled after the fact without causing massive structural damage.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/a-bridge-too-far-2/

details

Jusupov
May 24, 2007
only text

Collateral Damage posted:

It's now waterfront property.

Someone saw Fallingwater and wanted to make one for themselves cheap

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Jusupov posted:

Someone saw Fallingwater and wanted to make one for themselves cheap

Well they hosed up.

It’s too structurally sound.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Liquid Communism posted:

Locks are to keep honest people honest anyway. Anyone who would take your door off the hinges would find tossing a rock through a ground floor window a lot faster.

It's a floor to ceiling glass door anyway so if someone wanted in loud that would be the approach. I'm thinking more that a more secure lock is there to keep quiet entry out, which would be the equivalent of removing the hinges.

MisterOblivious posted:

That's super cheap to fix. You pull out a single screw from at least the top and bottom hinge and put a security pin in its place.

3x pins. You can find them cheaper. https://www.amazon.com/HINGEMATETM-DOOR-SECURITY-PINS-PACK/dp/B01HRPW5D0

It completely prevents people people knocking the hinge pins out and taking the door off.

This is a slightly different style of hinge, you wouldn't need to take a pin out. If you unscrew the hinges the door would fall right off. I'll take a photo, maybe there's still a solution.

MisterOblivious posted:

Anti-kick reinforcement kits are reasonably priced too: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01GWF2R70/ref=pd_aw_fbt_60_img_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=SVCBEWVKY1YA0Y1DS7ZM Goes well with replacing those half/inch screws in pre-hung doors.

All the doors and windows are multi-point locking so they're decently protected from being forced, plus this one opens outwards. If it came to a noisy entry they'd definitely just chuck a brick through it.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ
Didn't the owner of Fallingwater call it Risingdamp?

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
Rising Mold

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

peanut posted:

I'm p impressed with that prefab home's structural strength

Looks like there are some pretty big I beams under that poo poo.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

Metal Geir Skogul posted:

As a company that makes prefabs, you have to decide which will cost more: assembly on site coupled with multiple, but cheaper transports, or ONE BIG FUKKEN TRANSPORT that may cost a lot, but minimal assembly on site.

The equation must have tipped towards the latter.


E: there's a small chance that it's someone actually moving out of their mobile home park (99PI just had an episode about this, actually -- people are getting kicked out of mobile home parks because they usually don't own the land, even for double or triple-wide homes) and paying the $15-20k cost to do so. A lot of manufactured homes can't be disassembled after the fact without causing massive structural damage.

There must be some company in Alabama that ran the numbers or just has an assumption that moving the whole house is easier/best because I see one rolling down the highway at least once a week.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

MisterOblivious posted:

Double post, and I'm not sure what thread this is best in, but enjoy this collapsed bridge


Groverhaus Roadshow

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

Yawgmoth posted:

Groverhaus Roadshow

It's Groverbridge. The house is still together so it must have been built by someone competent.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

MisterOblivious posted:

Double post, and I'm not sure what thread this is best in, but enjoy this collapsed bridge



Kick out the short walls, hey presto! You've got yourself an upgrade to a covered bridge.

Buff Skeleton
Oct 24, 2005

Man, I know Game of Thrones had some serious budget issues early on but that just never would have been a believable Riverrun.

HelloIAmYourHeart
Dec 29, 2008
Fallen Rib


Contractor friend on FB posted this. Comment: "When your only tool is a sawzall all your problems look like they can be solved by a bigass hole"

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?

Fun Shoe

quote:

2,100-square-foot home

that's a lot to move at once

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

there wolf posted:

It's Groverbridge. The house is still together so it must have been built by someone competent.
Groverbridge, with added insulation that somehow caused structural failure.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

Haifisch posted:

Groverbridge, with added insulation that somehow caused structural failure.

I thought :grovertoot: already established that drywall can't support a house?

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

there wolf posted:

I thought :grovertoot: already established that drywall can't support a house?

It's load-bearing dryfloor.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Dirt Road Junglist posted:

It's load-bearing dryfloor.

not dry anymore

boo_radley
Dec 30, 2005

Politeness costs nothing

MisterOblivious posted:

Double post, and I'm not sure what thread this is best in, but enjoy this collapsed bridge



The McMansions of Madison County.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

HelloIAmYourHeart posted:



Contractor friend on FB posted this. Comment: "When your only tool is a sawzall all your problems look like they can be solved by a bigass hole"

I already know the answer, but that's a floor joist, isn't it?

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
is it under a tub?

beatmasterj has a Sawzall

:dogbutton:

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



boo_radley posted:

The McMansions of Madison County.

:golfclap:

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


DrBouvenstein posted:

I already know the answer, but that's a floor joist, isn't it?

I hadn't thought about that until you said it, but yes, most definitely.

dreesemonkey
May 14, 2008
Pillbug

HelloIAmYourHeart posted:



Contractor friend on FB posted this. Comment: "When your only tool is a sawzall all your problems look like they can be solved by a bigass hole"

This is probably still more structural than cutting the bottom of the floor joist.

Blindeye
Sep 22, 2006

I can't believe I kissed you!

dreesemonkey posted:

This is probably still more structural than cutting the bottom of the floor joist.

True, for bending the extreme fibers carry most of the stress...but there isn't much left, and for shear...it is a function of cross-sectional area sooo...good luck with that?

kid sinister
Nov 16, 2002

DrBouvenstein posted:

I already know the answer, but that's a floor joist, isn't it?

You'd be surprised how large a hole you're allowed to drill in a floor joist. I believe it's up to 1/3 the board width. That's over 3" for the average 2x10.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

Are their restrictions on how you do it? Because I would guess that those ragged holes and over-cuts around the edges make that worse for stress than if you drilled a proper round hole in it.

Bibendum
Sep 5, 2003
nunc est Bibendum
Back to hinge chat, a properly fitted door isn't removable while closed. Even with the pins out the hinge plates overlap and interfere, it would take a lot of pounding with a hammer to bend them back enough to clear each other. The reason doors open inwards isn't to keep the hinges inside but to keep the top of the door out of the rain when it is opened. This is less important now that covered porches are common and exterior doors are made with metal skins and concrete foam filler.

Bibendum fucked around with this message at 22:54 on May 23, 2018

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peanut
Sep 9, 2007


boo_radley posted:

The McMansions of Madison County.

McRanchsions?

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