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All those seasons were awful.
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Jun 28, 2018 18:45
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The show was always bad and cringy. The sooner we accept that the better. We want a good show but all we get is the bad poosey.
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Jun 28, 2018 18:52
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Season 6 was surprisingly okay but 5 and 7 were real bad (5 was worse than 7). I'm glad the climactic moment the whole series was building up to where John and Dany meet involved as much chemistry as two bots talking on tinder. Consistently the worst parts of the show have been when they've gone off-script from what grrm wrote. (John and the deserters, jaime in dorne, sansa going to winterfell, yara's "rescue" of theon, etc.) They've done some good stuff also to be fair but it's been pretty bad as of late. Anecdotal but even people who never read the books have noticed it's gotten bad in my experience, and that pretty neatly coincides with them running out of book.
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Jun 28, 2018 18:52
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Also they had plenty of book for season 5, it's not really an excuse at all for how bad that was. Somehow they took the dumbest plot in the whole book (dorne poo poo) and made it even less relevant or comprehensible.
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Jun 28, 2018 18:59
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The books and the show probably peaked at 1 because of the nut kick from daddy Stark biting it out of nowhere. That was real good at the time. I don’t think he realized what would happen when you kill off so many characters and you’re left with the B team.
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Jun 28, 2018 19:17
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Also they had plenty of book for season 5, it's not really an excuse at all for how bad that was. Somehow they took the dumbest plot in the whole book (dorne poo poo) and made it even less relevant or comprehensible. Oh yeah, how could they leave out riveting stuff like traveling with Dick Crabb, the awe-inspiring Kettleblack saga, and other such heady fare? I'm glad that so much of the book stuff remained in the books and never made its way to the screen. Sure, the show found its way to make its own dumb chapters (and how!), but they were usually good about knowing what was important stuff that had to be adapted and what could be safely tossed out. Well, except for Jaime telling Tyrion about his first wife, which was a rather defining moment in their stories. I can -sort- of get the reason, because it would take Tyrion's level of drama and disgrace into Super Sayan levels after he was near-killed, betrayed, lied about, villified and had his favorite puppy eaten by Gregor Clegane. But still. Even the show wasn't so bad as to make Euron's takeover be basically "He showed up with a magic horn promising the world once everyone makes a long round-the-world voyage, and everyone else was too retarded/contrived to stop it".
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Jun 28, 2018 19:18
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Sephyr posted:Oh yeah, how could they leave out riveting stuff like traveling with Dick Crabb, the awe-inspiring Kettleblack saga, and other such heady fare? I barely remember how that Euron scene was in the show , but wanst basically "I'll build a thousand ships!!" and that was enough to convince everyone?
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Jun 28, 2018 19:28
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Invalid Validation posted:The books and the show probably peaked at 1 because of the nut kick from daddy Stark biting it out of nowhere. That was real good at the time. I don’t think he realized what would happen when you kill off so many characters and you’re left with the B team. When he started writing it was only supposed to be three books. Ned was the hero of Book 1, and then he died. Robb was supposed to be the hero of Book 2 and then die. And then Jon and Dany were supposed to be the heroes of Book 3 and then probably die too. I dunno. E: Elias_Maluco posted:I barely remember how that Euron scene was in the show , but wanst basically "I'll build a thousand ships!!" and that was enough to convince everyone? It was "I'll build a thousands ships! And girls are stupid, they can't rule anything! And Theon has no dick!" / "EURON! EURON! EURON! EURON!" 
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Jun 28, 2018 19:28
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Season 5 was unforgivably bad. 6 started okay and every episode was better than the last, and the final two were pretty loving amazing. 7 felt like they suddenly realized that stories are supposed to have a conclusion so they're just rushing through everything that's left but after waiting so god drat long even rushed it feels a little a satisfying to see some of this poo poo finally happen.
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Jun 28, 2018 19:31
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Elias_Maluco posted:I barely remember how that Euron scene was in the show , but wanst basically "I'll build a thousand ships!!" and that was enough to convince everyone?
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Jun 28, 2018 19:33
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emanresu tnuocca posted:All those seasons were awful.
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Jun 28, 2018 19:40
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Being only three books would probably be solid as hell.
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Jun 28, 2018 19:58
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He should have just done the 5 year gap.
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Jun 28, 2018 20:00
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I bet the power supply of his ancient PC went poof like four years ago and he just never fixed it or told anyone
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Jun 28, 2018 20:17
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:He should have just done the 5 year gap.  except I'd miss my crazy fat Cersei chapters
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Jun 28, 2018 20:50
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:He should have just done the 5 year gap. He's getting pretty close to doing 2 of these
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Jun 28, 2018 20:54
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nine-gear crow posted:When he started writing it was only supposed to be three books. Ned was the hero of Book 1, and then he died. Robb was supposed to be the hero of Book 2 and then die. And then Jon and Dany were supposed to be the heroes of Book 3 and then probably die too. I dunno. Which was dumb and hilarious and borderline Trumpian, but still not quite as bad as "Hey guys! Um, there's a girl in the rear end-end of the world with dragons! Sailor told me so! Vote for me and we'll go there and get them!" The way he basically just farts in the general direction of all noble houses and religious authorities and common sense that constrain every other character and never pauys a price is so contrived it takes plot armor to a new level. Everyone else is all "ironborn must never shed the blood of ironborn!" and he's cackling while offing political enemies right after coming back. It's like Gurm went "Well, I need -something- to disturb the Tyrrels top keep this clusterfuck unresolved and going for two extra books. Dorne is dumb, the Stormland are a weird bland nowuere I forgot to give a character to, even I am sick of Lannisters....gently caress it, I'll use the ironborn again. They now don't care about the North and want the world, and the motivation is that this guy is crazy."
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Jun 28, 2018 20:56
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Chieves posted:He's getting pretty close to doing 2 of these There were two of them before this double-header.
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Jun 28, 2018 21:12
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Sephyr posted:Which was dumb and hilarious and borderline Trumpian, but still not quite as bad as "Hey guys! Um, there's a girl in the rear end-end of the world with dragons! Sailor told me so! Vote for me and we'll go there and get them!" It's a recurring theme in both the books and the show that everyone from the Iron Isles who isn't Yara/Asha is a shortsighted self-destructive idiot loser, so it's perfectly in keeping.
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Jun 28, 2018 21:17
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It is possible that there's a correlation between "blows magical horn" and sudden political support that goes beyond just "wow that horn is pretty cool". Not that we'll ever know.
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Jun 28, 2018 21:19
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remember when they said they changed Asha's name to Yara so it would sound less like Osha, but now it sounds like Arya.
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Jun 28, 2018 21:20
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esperterra posted:remember when they said they changed Asha's name to Yara so it would sound less like Osha, but now it sounds like Arya. They changed it because they made Osha more prominent. Arya had nothing to do with it.
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Jun 28, 2018 21:21
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nine-gear crow posted:They changed it because they made Osha more prominent. Arya had nothing to do with it. I just find it funny they changed it b/c Osha was more prominent, yet the name they changed it to sounds like one of the most prominent people in the series lmao I'd even argue Yara sounds more like Arya than Asha does Osha
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Jun 28, 2018 21:23
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mossyfisk posted:It is possible that there's a correlation between "blows magical horn" and sudden political support that goes beyond just "wow that horn is pretty cool". "I mean, it killed the guy who blew it. If THAT doesn't decide your vote I don't know what will, man."
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Jun 28, 2018 21:47
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lol remember how osha hosed up killing ramsay because they needed to write her out
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Jun 28, 2018 22:17
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BIG MEATY SHITS posted:lol remember how osha hosed up killing ramsay because they needed to write her out Then Natalia Tena joined that "Techbro libertarian billionaire solves crimes by via doxxing" show on CBS which got cancelled immediately because oops Jeremy Piven's a sexmonster. Also it was godawful.
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Jun 28, 2018 22:22
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GRRM HAS NINE NEW BOOKS that he suggests you to read over the summer instead of waiting for him to finish his. To be fair though, Wizard of Earthsea, Watership Down, and Once and Future King are all solid picks.
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Jun 29, 2018 01:45
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why does his list of favorite books look like that of a nerdy 7th grader......wtf martin
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Jun 29, 2018 05:18
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There's only two good books, and they're some of the duller stuff Fitzgerald and Dickens wrote lol at recommending Le Guin and Zelazny
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Jun 29, 2018 08:18
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Boring 
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Jun 29, 2018 09:06
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He should have said to read this thread.
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Jun 29, 2018 14:51
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Much like in the republican congress, there are lots of pages and they're all white and have nothing on them but the sweat and shame of a fat rich creep.
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Jun 29, 2018 17:40
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Jun 29, 2018 22:36
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At 1382 pages, it is about the average length of an ASoIaF book before he stopped writing them. And more coherent too.  Nebula Award please!
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Jun 30, 2018 00:15
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nine-gear crow posted:GRRM HAS NINE NEW BOOKS that he suggests you to read over the summer instead of waiting for him to finish his. seriously though - no wildcards?
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Jun 30, 2018 03:34
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:There's only two good books, and they're some of the duller stuff Fitzgerald and Dickens wrote Lord of Light is great though.
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Jun 30, 2018 13:51
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kcroy posted:seriously though - no wildcards? I mean, there's not even a single graphic novel on there. Completely poo poo list.
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Jun 30, 2018 16:16
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its a loving weird list. It's like babbys first scifi book
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Deptfordx posted:Lord of Light is great though. How's the prose?
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I liked Lord of Light and kind of enjoyed most of the Amber chronicles but then again I just listened to Rise of Endymion and thought it was generally ok?
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