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so, someone bought suse for billions
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Still huge in Germany
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Jul 3, 2018 07:42
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thebigcow posted:After letting Fedora update whatever it wanted to, GRUB wouldn't load at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Secure_boot_2 HTH. I shudder to think what UEFI looks like on a Lenovo laptop ughhhh.
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ewe2 posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Secure_boot_2 it looks fine. Zotac of all companies have a really nice UEFI implementation btw. I have one of their little PCs that I use as a home server and it spends maybe two seconds in firmware after power-on before executing the bootloader.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:so, someone bought suse for billions Tired of shelling for licenses, I bet.
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Jul 3, 2018 15:18
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TimWinter posted:Tired of shelling for licenses, I bet. the buyer is some swedish private equity fund conglomerate???
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Soricidus posted:the surface pro also has a really nice low profile magnetic power connector. better than magsafe imo, and vastly better than usb c or lightning had a fun convo with my boss about some stupid lovely issue with their power connector where it refused to charge until he removed/re-attached the non-battery keyboard on his. piles of poo poo, all of them
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Jul 3, 2018 15:54
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cinci zoo sniper posted:so, someone bought suse for billions billions? with a b? do they own patents or something?
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hobbesmaster posted:billions? with a b? do they own patents or something? yes, 2.535 instagrams. no idea why though
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cinci zoo sniper posted:the buyer is some swedish private equity fund conglomerate??? private equity? lol start working on your migration plans right the gently caress now
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Sapozhnik posted:private equity? gotta monetize them lunixes
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Poopernickel posted:YOSPOS: folk's we gotta go back in time and whoop Babbage's rear end
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Jul 3, 2018 18:17
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ewe2 posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Secure_boot_2 It was fine with secure boot turned on from Fedora 26 -> 27 -> 28 and a mountain of kernel updates right up until yesterday. At least sound works.
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thebigcow posted:It was fine with secure boot turned on from Fedora 26 -> 27 -> 28 and a mountain of kernel updates right up until yesterday. m'loader
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Jul 4, 2018 04:08
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so is btrfs dead now or what
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Jul 4, 2018 17:57
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Progressive JPEG posted:so is btrfs dead now or what nope, it's very alive according to the changelogs, and suse still uses it for its own snapshot solution
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Jul 4, 2018 18:25
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Tankakern posted:nope, it's very alive according to the changelogs, and suse still uses it for its own snapshot solution suse uses it for root volumes Grub2 seems to be able to boot from it if it is a simple volume (read: no raid)
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el dorito posted:suse uses it for root volumes you can't have certain filesystem compression enabled either. like zstd compression and grub just doesn't work. so i use ext for /boot
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Condiv posted:you can't have certain filesystem compression enabled either. like zstd compression and grub just doesn't work. so i use ext for /boot I just use ext4 for everything seems to work just fine (lately I’ve been also using xfs and that works fine too)
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Progressive JPEG posted:so is btrfs dead now or what 1/3 of synology's lineup uses it exclusively
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I imagine that grub2 probably has to reimplement a bunch of code for supported filesystems in order to read the information they need so I bet we’re never ever gonna see anything more advanced. I wonder if there is a bounty to get grub2 to support murderfs4, although since the latter is not stable anyway, I bet it’ll never happen
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we don't really need more advanced filesystems for /boot it is ok if /boot is ext4 for the next 100 years
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/boot should rightly be the FAT32-formatted EFI system partition but no apparently that isn't spergy enough for some people
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i rented and set up a supermicro server yesterday it did not, in the year of our lord two thousand and eighteen, have EFI firmware as far as i could tell.
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Sapozhnik posted:i rented and set up a supermicro server yesterday afaik supermicro doesn't sell anything non-efi but they have the most confusing firmware configuration interfaces in the business so i don't blame you for finding the mislabeled radio button in a menu nested six deep
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Jul 6, 2018 03:44
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the grub driver for some filesystems is quite small btrfs is not one of those
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i was reading up on how it works with mdadm devices and lol
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Janitor Prime posted:i was reading up on how it works with mdadm devices and lol i wasn't sure whether the "it" here was btrfs or grub so i went googling for btrfs + mdadm to see if i could find the lols and found out that (a) btrfs has its own raid layer, presumably because zfs envy and (b) at least as recently as 2016, this raid code was so turbofucked that, when you told it to scrub a raid5 after replacing a disk, although it would successfully recover the data, in the process it would corrupt the parity, leading to future data corruption lol why does anyone use btrfs also, if that was not your lol, please elaborate
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grub's filesystem drivers implement write by using the read side to figure out where the blocks are in the existing file and then overwriting the blocks you can imagine how well this works on filesystems with checksums
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Jul 6, 2018 05:12
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why would grub be writing to the filesystem? i thought it was just looking for the colonel img to jump into
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Progressive JPEG posted:the colonel img 11 secret blocks and userspaces
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Jul 6, 2018 05:56
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Progressive JPEG posted:why would grub be writing to the filesystem? i thought it was just looking for the colonel img to jump into it can save the last menu entry you booted as the default
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Sapozhnik posted:/boot should rightly be the FAT32-formatted EFI system partition but no apparently that isn't spergy enough for some people it actually should be /efi /boot is a mess nowadays, because the EFI System partition can be mounted at /boot, or /boot/efi, or /efi, depending on what distro you're using i think the new /efi was the plan to rectify that mess
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/private/efi /efi -> /private/efi
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the grub filesystem interaction is such a mess of a design decision, presumably someone so offended by the special case of letting the boot files have separate constraints compared to other files that they were willing to add any amount of complexity to avoid it not that it really matters, since one can also set up the boot in a straightforward way, but seems a real waste of time and effort
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BobHoward posted:why does anyone use btrfs Lysidas posted:filesystem level snapshots, cross-machine or FS incremental snapshot replication, data and metadata chrcksumming in a smart way, rebuilding data instead of a block device, saving time if the FS on the disks isn't very full plus file-level copy on write (reflinking) though yeah raid5 and raid6 are a horrible mess, my only use of btrfs is for a single disk or in raid1 and its been 
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Agile Vector posted:11 secret blocks and userspaces
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just use lilo
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a.out is good enough
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