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In an era obsessed with the land owning classes, Dickens deserves credit if not just for being a literary voice of the working class
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hi im mel mudkipper have i told you my opinions about the british aristocracy lately
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Jul 8, 2018 05:41
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The reason people praise Dickens is because he writes exceedingly well.
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Jul 8, 2018 05:53
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Wrote. He's dead now.
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Jul 8, 2018 08:45
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Wrote. He's dead now. -Roland Barthes
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Jul 8, 2018 08:46
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Jul 8, 2018 09:58
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I liked Great Expectations and would probs like Bleak House if I can be bothered with such a doorstopper atm. I've heard Little Dorrit is also good and underrated. I like sentimentality when it's Sterne and Chaplin, but Dickens isn't biting enough imo At least in Oliver Twist. I think the opening is actually great, some really good satirical writing in the vein of Defoe and Swift and then it takes the back seat so as not to upset people too much
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Jul 8, 2018 13:08
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Wrote. He's dead now. I'm a stupid man and I dont view the text as a living construct eternally written and rewritten and instead believe it was written merely once at some random time in the past
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Jul 8, 2018 14:33
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I don't believe that Charles Dickens is writing anything in Westminster Abbey.
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Jul 8, 2018 14:45
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chernobyl kinsman posted:hi im mel mudkipper have i told you my opinions about the british aristocracy lately literature that fails to speak to the truth of class struggle is barely even literature
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Jul 8, 2018 16:02
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Mel Mudkiper posted:literature that fails to speak to the truth of class struggle is barely even literature agreed thats why i only read books that avow the divine right of kings
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Jul 8, 2018 16:52
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Mel Mudkiper posted:literature that fails to speak to the truth of class struggle is barely even literature which makes it pretty baffling that you read tedious american men instead of socialist realism or whatever
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Jul 9, 2018 02:10
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A human heart posted:which makes it pretty baffling that you read tedious american men instead of socialist realism or whatever know your enemy
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Jul 9, 2018 02:57
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Thats why i keep on posting in this thread
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Jul 9, 2018 03:40
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A human heart posted:which makes it pretty baffling that you read tedious american men instead of socialist realism or whatever i, for my part, have composed literally my entire bookshelf of nothing but maxim gorky novels
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Jul 9, 2018 04:15
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Gorky's childhood memoirs are pretty good
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Jul 9, 2018 10:53
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Some weird old book guy was telling me to read Gorky a few months ago, I probably should at some point
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Jul 9, 2018 10:57
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Wrote. He's dead now. 
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Jul 10, 2018 01:51
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Omensetter's Luck is the only good book.
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Jul 10, 2018 05:08
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What are you crazy?
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Jul 10, 2018 08:57
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I'm working my way through Pale Fire. Slow going because I don't read ahead in Kinbote's commentary. I take it just as fast as I can memorize Shade's poem. Also, critics should pack it in. A clever programmer solved the whole problem: http://prosecraft.io/analysis/vividness/percentile/ https://blog.shaxpir.com/writing-vivid-prose-33283e861358
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Jul 11, 2018 02:17
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yurtcradled posted:Also, critics should pack it in. A clever programmer solved the whole problem:
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Jul 11, 2018 02:33
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also ranked by: word count passive voice adverb frequency
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Jul 11, 2018 03:06
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the books in the 99th percentile have an average “vividness” score between 63.67% and 103.61% for more info, read: writing vivid prose 63.67% vivid Storm and Grace Kathryn Heyman 63.7% vivid The Nowhere Man Gregg Hurwitz 63.72% vivid A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms George R. R. Martin 64.06% vivid Once Upon A Tide S. McPherson 64.1% vivid Hex-Rated Jason Ridler 64.12% vivid Scribes James Wolanyk 64.17% vivid Bleeding Cross Aaron Dawbot 64.5% vivid Distortion Teague Rudacille 64.56% vivid The Twits Roald Dahl 64.62% vivid Entombed in Glass Stacey Rourke
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Jul 11, 2018 03:11
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103.61% vivid Pygmy Chuck Palahniuk
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Jul 11, 2018 03:12
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A human heart posted:gently caress computer programmers!!!
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Jul 11, 2018 03:15
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Glad to know that's all solved then
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Jul 11, 2018 03:15
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CestMoi posted:103.61% vivid
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Jul 11, 2018 04:05
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austen in the bottom percentile for vividness lol
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Jul 11, 2018 08:57
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Vividness of a book seems to be the mean vividness of its individual words. But the word-level vividness ratings are all jacked up. "Faeces" doesn't even register (you can see it lacks a rating the most vivid passage from Blood of Sanguinus (61.07% vivid)), while "malformed," which relies entirely on context for specificity, gets a flat "9.0 - Strongly Vivid."
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Jul 11, 2018 12:47
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ah, this is because computer programmers are very very stupid, as has been covered
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Jul 11, 2018 13:10
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Yeah i can't find a description of how they decided the vividness of a word but i bet it involved one guy going through a list and making up numbers.
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Jul 11, 2018 13:33
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Ah yes I am glad someone was able to take a lexical complexity index and somehow make it worthless I had an professor while getting my MA who was so into lexical indexing that she claimed one day we could figure out the "formula of literature"
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Jul 11, 2018 13:37
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Jul 11, 2018 13:42
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Jul 11, 2018 13:44
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more like knobulating
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Jul 11, 2018 13:49
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https://shaxpir.com/ lol
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Jul 11, 2018 13:49
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Isn't there already a program like this that all the creative convention writers use to plan their nanowrimos or whatever
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Jul 11, 2018 14:10
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there’s already an algorithm for planning nanowrimos. it’s to methodically slam one’s head into a concrete wall over and over until something breaks
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I dunno, but does it have such features as  WORLD BUILDING NOTEBOOK CONCEPT ART E-BOOK EXPORTING 
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