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the concept art in particular gets me "I need a tool to help me visualize this forest" *stock photo of trees* "ah yes, perfect" EDIT: quote:Emotional Story Arc I am speechless Mel Mudkiper fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Jul 11, 2018 |
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how does it compare to scrivener
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# ? Jul 11, 2018 15:29 |
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This Wanderer guy sounds badass.
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I am tempted to see if the "emotional story arc" algorithm ends up telling me 1984 has a happy endingSham bam bamina! posted:This Wanderer guy sounds badass. Why is he the wanderer when he is always in the same place
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I am tempted to see if the "emotional story arc" algorithm ends up telling me 1984 has a happy ending According to this algorithm there are 60% positive words with half of those being strongly positive so I think you know the answer
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Guy A. Person posted:According to this algorithm there are 60% positive words with half of those being strongly positive so I think you know the answer Winston finally gets over his midlife crisis, ditches the young sidepiece, and decides to be a productive member of society.
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tag yourself im Skeet Creek
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I am The Sickness, but dream of being The Butterfly Trap
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chernobyl kinsman posted:tag yourself im Skeet Creek I am "Concepts: Blood Magic"
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My posts are all written by WESCAC.
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# ? Jul 11, 2018 17:56 |
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Growing up, the people I knew that wrote fantasy and sci-fi stories tended to have an over-active imagination--dragons that shoot lasers made up of rainbow fragments, robot dolphins with eyes that turn into swords--that needed to be toned down and have consistent logic. Now it seems that wanna-be fantasy and sci-fi writers struggle with how to give their character a potion or describe a forest. I am constantly baffled that there are so many people that want to write extravagant genre fiction but have the imagination of a squirrel with cognitive disorders and need computer programs to tell them how to make a back story for their characters.
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a ufo descends, magically, from the sky. out walks an alien who, holding a hand aloft in the symbol of universal peace, states: "science fiction and fantasy is shaped by the material conditions of the society that generates it"
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Franchescanado posted:Growing up, the people I knew that wrote fantasy and sci-fi stories tended to have an over-active imagination--dragons that shoot lasers made up of rainbow fragments, robot dolphins with eyes that turn into swords--that needed to be toned down and have consistent logic. Now it seems that wanna-be fantasy and sci-fi writers struggle with how to give their character a potion or describe a forest. I am constantly baffled that there are so many people that want to write extravagant genre fiction but have the imagination of a squirrel with cognitive disorders and need computer programs to tell them how to make a back story for their characters. ah yes, the elusive concept of 'worldbuilding'
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That's what happens when you're only inspired by just other genre fiction rather than human experience and good literature.
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I'm writing a review of Joe Abercrombie's terrible books for example, and it's very obvious that Abercrombie is writing about aristocracy, military life, colonial politics, and secret police without any familiarity with them outside of fiction, and the genre fantasy elements are there because genre fantasy demands them, not because they serve an interesting artistic purpose.
BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jul 11, 2018 |
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Hello yes I cannot remember the intricacies of my Harry Potter fan fiction without a 7 dollar a month subscription that tells me if I used enough happy words and references to food
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:I'm writing a review of Joe Abercrombie's terrible books for example, and it's very obvious that Abercrombie is writing about aristocracy, military life, colonial politics, and secret police without any familiarity with them outside of fiction, and the genre fantasy elements are there because genre fantasy demands them, not because they serve an interesting artistic purpose. Randy Marsh posted:I love how the books are self aware and turn a lot of the fantasy tropes on their heads, such as Bayaz not at all being who he seems, if you go in thinking of him as the typical old wizard who guides the "heroes". Smashurbanipal posted:From his own descriptions of "Heroes", that's pretty much Abercrombie's point: everyone is kinda reprehensible and there is absolutely no "good" faction or person. It's all shades of vicious, vindictive, vain and other wise unappealing traits that are written so successfully that you can't help but empathize with the characters.
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Actually, his works are dark and unflinchingly mature. Fuckin deep bro. My book club chose Good Omens for June, which I've always heard defended as "super funny but thought provoking satire hidden in genre fiction", and the major satire is "What if, like, good and evil were just labels, bro?" I've been balancing it with Frederick Seidel's poetry, which has been cool and weird, and I've been reading more Roland Barthes essays. I keep meaning to post some Seidel in the poetry thread, but the collection I have has all these weird threads between the poems which makes them feel related or maybe telling a story or just trying to illustrate an (autobiographic?) portrait.
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tropes are deconstructed left and right
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It's super frustrating as a critic to see deconstruction misused to mean "referential" by hacks
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i知 reading a journal of the plague year
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Actually, his works are dark and unflinchingly mature. I get the feeling BotL was actually talking about something else entirely. At least partly, because it seems weird to criticize something for being based in tropes rather than reality if the work is explicitly set within and is about these tropes. It's like criticising a black comedy for not understanding death's seriousness. This is not to say that the books are any good as actual literature.
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Tree Goat posted:i知 reading a journal of the plague year A dreadful plague in London was in the year sixty-five that swept a hundred thousand souls away; yet I alive!
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Burning Rain posted:I get the feeling BotL was actually talking about something else entirely. Thing is, this makes absolutely no difference.
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love too deconstruct tropes
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*enters thread with his dick out and his pants wrapped around his head* Behold I have deconstructed pants
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:I'm writing a review of Joe Abercrombie's terrible books for example, and it's very obvious that Abercrombie is writing about aristocracy, military life, colonial politics, and secret police without any familiarity with them outside of fiction, and the genre fantasy elements are there because genre fantasy demands them, not because they serve an interesting artistic purpose. It's cool how really old genre fiction like dime pulps or whatever is always better than contemporary stuff even when it's not very good because the guys writing it had actually read a book that didn't come from a cereal box at some point.
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Jack Vance posted:Gersen entered a hall with a floor of immaculate white glass tiles. On one hand was the display wall, characteristic of middle-class European homes; here hung a panel intricately inlaid with wood, bone and shell: Lenka workmanship from Nowhere, one of the Concourse planets; a set of perfume points from Pamfile; a rectangle of polished and perforated obsidian; and one of the so-called "supplication slabs"* from Lupus 23II. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Jul 12, 2018 |
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gently caress this and gently caress whoever wrote it
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I didn't read it before, but now I've read it, and I think it's extremely good. Want to find out more about Talbeg script and the Wound.
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Wait, how the hell is goggles in red when knife isn't?
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im reading Pimp by Iceberg Slim and let me tell you this is the story of a boy who wants ot be the pirate king
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Sham bam bamina! posted:I didn't read it before, but now I've read it, and I think it's extremely good. Want to find out more about Talbeg script and the Wound. With literally no other context than that this is a fantasy novel I would bet money that The Wound is a humongous scar in the earth torn when the Demons entered the world or some similar horseshit
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A gash in other words
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the great quim of gaia
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Hello thread. In Parenthesis by David Jones is a good read, it's probably most of interest to the medieval folks in the thread because of its incredibly extensive medievalism. And the ending is very good. And it has a great sentence pretty much on every pagequote:Spangled tapestry swayed between the uprights; camouflage-net, meshed with the plunging star-draught. quote:he handled his small black book as children do their favourite dolls, who would impute to them a certain personality; he seemed to speak to the turned leaves, and to get his answer. quote:The exact disposition of small things末the precise shapes of trees, the tilt of a bucket, the movement of a straw, the disappearing right boot of Sergeant Snell末registered not by the ear nor any single faculty末an on-rushing pervasion, saturating all existence; with exactitude, logarithmic, dial-timed, millesimal末of calculated velocity, some mean chemist's contrivance, a stinking physicist's destroying toy. quote:Cloying drift-damp cupped in every concave place.
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I'm skeptical.
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cloying climp clamp clumped in every concrete cave
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They're good sentences but also hard to read.
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