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my bitter bi rival posted:what's your laptop I don't have that problem Lenovo P51. I wrote out an effortpost about my endeavors into trying Fedora Atomic Workstation before jumping back into Fedora Workstation. I hope to finish / post it, but it started going all over the place. Atomic Worstation is just... weird.
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eschaton posted:audio doesn’t work on my GPD Pocket running Ubuntu 18.04 when I’m logged in i have a gpd pocket myself, and i just fixed this issue. you need to update to pulseaudio 12, it has some bugfixes for hdmi out sound. before 12 pulseaudio crashes... fedora is extremely nice on gpd pockets now, you really should ditch ubuntu
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you don't need any random third party bash/python scripts anymore either, it just works out of the box (okay, okay, i think i had to remove "rhgb" from the kernel boot command line in /etc/default/grub, the screen rotation thingie doesn't like that plymouth splash screen thingie that fedora uses)
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why did you get gdp pockets? i am curious about the reason you wanted such a tiny laptop. penetration testing stuff?
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Jul 11, 2018 14:09
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I wanted a hacktop to carry everywhere and run emulators on, for which it’s extremely needs suiting (the emulators I care about most, Lisp machines, don’t need sound…)
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TimWinter posted:So, fedora seems to ship with a version of gnome shell that crashes when you plug in external monitors on a laptop. That was fun to debug. If the screen is locked and I turn on my second monitor, which is attached via displayport, that poo poo locks right up. Intel GPU if it matters.
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Jul 11, 2018 23:31
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eschaton posted:I wanted a hacktop to carry everywhere and run emulators on, for which it’s extremely needs suiting i had no idea this was a thing and i want one now
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Jul 12, 2018 02:38
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Tankakern posted:you really should ditch ubuntu
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Jul 12, 2018 03:25
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i have to restart my computer if i want to plug in my kindle
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Jul 12, 2018 03:43
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hahaha
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Jul 12, 2018 03:45
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c linux status: after a ton of time putting it off i installed fedora workstation for work and side projects on a 8 year old core duo desktop its kind of nostalgic, it really feels like i am using an os from 1995, i am amazed they got this far
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Jul 12, 2018 04:34
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i want to try out a tiling wm but xfce is very needs suiting i also need to know of annoying mechanical keyboards which work on this natively
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Jul 12, 2018 04:38
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i used awesome for a while, it was fine but i realized i dont care about tiling or virtual desktops because i am a simpleton
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Jul 12, 2018 04:46
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also if anyone can point to some kind of debugging process for usb i'd be interested, i dunno why my kindle doesn't work after a while of uptime. maybe it's sleep related. it doesn't show up in dmesg or lsusb
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Jul 12, 2018 04:48
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awesome isnt really that good, i3 meanwhile is very good if you get the hang of it. and given that theres a native wayland implementation of i3 now it's probably going to be around for a while but xfce is a-ok too if you just want something that works and is reasonably straightforward yes ive used all of these why do you ask
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Jul 12, 2018 05:23
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Progressive JPEG posted:awesome isnt really that good, i3 meanwhile is very good if you get the hang of it. and given that theres a native wayland implementation of i3 now it's probably going to be around for a while now do xmonad
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Jul 12, 2018 06:23
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what was the Lisp wm that people used in the early mid 1990s, pre-sawfish and pre-stumpwm? use that or hack on clfswm
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eschaton posted:I wanted a hacktop to carry everywhere and run emulators on, for which it’s extremely needs suiting Kinda curious, what can you use an emulated Lisp machine nowadays for?
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Jul 12, 2018 11:08
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fvwm and awesome look tempting but perl and lua coding in configurations is not what I want from a window manager, so it's openbox or xfce for me.
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what's the reasoning behind force booting in to a no-network emergency mode if /etc/fstab can't find a mount point?
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minimizing the things that can continue to go wrong when things appear fundamentally broken?
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Good to hear re:i3, will try on my new fedora machine. Although I do really like gnome 3. I never thought I would but it's nice.
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Jul 12, 2018 18:57
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VikingofRock posted:now do xmonad If you're concerned with how well it works or how maintainable the haskell you have to write to configure it is, then xmonad isn't for you because you're not a functional programmer.
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Jul 12, 2018 19:49
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i used to use i3 everyday at work and it was needs suiting
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Jul 12, 2018 22:09
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hifi posted:i have to restart my computer if i want to plug in my kindle lmfao
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Jul 12, 2018 22:15
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Share Bear posted:i want to try out a tiling wm but xfce is very needs suiting my wasd code keyboard works on it fine, media keys and all.
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Jul 12, 2018 22:16
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TimWinter posted:Good to hear re:i3, will try on my new fedora machine. i felt the same way but its really good.
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i think compiling your wm to change a color is the dumbest thing ever, but here i am enjoying dwm and tinkering in the source when i want something different. there's something with the simplicity and DIY-ness of the suckless apps that reminds me of all the hobbyist poo poo in the 80s/90s.
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Jul 13, 2018 02:49
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TimWinter posted:Good to hear re:i3, will try on my new fedora machine. for i3 ive found stacking mode to be super useful in practice. it effectively results in horiz movement switching between frames, and vert movement switching between windows within the current frame yeah gnome 3 is fine too, id used it for several years before trying out i3 a few months ago
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Jul 13, 2018 03:01
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update on my kindle: i ran lsusb as root and it changed something so it works so i guess i just have to do that if i dont want to restart my computer
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theres probably some user group that you need to be in, or some busted rear end udev config, or both
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there’s nothing short of hardware problems or a kernel bug that’d stop it from showing up in lsusb
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it saddens me that XView and Open Look are dead of 64-bit ABI issues X could have standardized on them and avoided all the bullshit reinvention of the past 20+ years
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eschaton posted:it saddens me that XView and Open Look are dead of 64-bit ABI issues Im not sure why you think that a linux desktop dev would ever say “hmm, actually this subsystem is good enough, let’s maintain the existing code instead of starting over”
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I recently had to manually check for fedora updates since I haven’t received a notification to reboot into update mode for awhile. Had 900+ packages to update. Has anyone else seen this happen? I hope “update mode” comes back.
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https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/Whiteboards/AppMenuMigration Eight years after GNOME 3 introduced their top-of-screen application menu that nobody outside of GNOME ever used they're dropping it I thought the idea had merit but there was obviously no way a nothing platform like GNOME 3 could convince devs to adopt that UI standard
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Sapozhnik posted:https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/Whiteboards/AppMenuMigration so good of them to constrain their designs to only things that work both on desktops and on phones, even though no one will ever use a gnome phone
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Sapozhnik posted:https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/Whiteboards/AppMenuMigration “no other platform has this pattern” “doesn’t work well with multiple monitors” hmm yes there is no other platform with a top of screen menu bar, especially not one that’s supported multiple monitors for 30+ years (never mind all the platforms that copied it)
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carry on then posted:so good of them to constrain their designs to only things that work both on desktops and on phones, even though no one will ever use a gnome phone wait they’re STILL doing that?!
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