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Fury Road actually has a ton of CGI, but they split it between making full scenes, enhancing stuff (i.e. turning a flat expanse of land into a canyon) and removing safety and filming equipment. Pretty smart way to use it.
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Fun fact about MI2: it was the highest-grossing movie worldwide for the year 2000. However, in America, it was only the third biggest movie of the year. Number two was Cast Away with Tom Cruise and the most successful movie in American theatres that year was Ron Howard's How the Grinch Stole Christmas starring Jim Carrey believe it or not.
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Jul 10, 2018 23:26
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Tom Cruise was legit robbed of an oscar for his portrayal of Wilson.
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Jul 10, 2018 23:37
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I know Oscars shouldn't be taken too seriously but I'm honestly surprised Cruise has never won one. You know, I'd have thought he'd have gotten one for Born On the Fourth of July, but nope. Daniel Day-Lewis won that year.
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Jul 10, 2018 23:41
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He deserved it for Magnolia.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Fury Road actually has a ton of CGI, but they split it between making full scenes, enhancing stuff (i.e. turning a flat expanse of land into a canyon) and removing safety and filming equipment. Pretty smart way to use it. Oftentimes the biggest issue with CGI isn’t its quality, but its application. Fury Road’s a good example of using it well. Zodiac is another relatively recent example.
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LesterGroans posted:He deserved it for Magnolia. I haven't seen that one. Wikipedia tells me he lost to... Michael Caine in The Cider House Rules?
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LesterGroans posted:He deserved it for Magnolia. He deserved the nomination but I think the part was just a bit too small to justify the win, Magnolia is a true ensemble piece. I think Michael Clarke Duncan deserved it for The Green Mile.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Fury Road actually has a ton of CGI, but they split it between making full scenes, enhancing stuff (i.e. turning a flat expanse of land into a canyon) and removing safety and filming equipment. Pretty smart way to use it. Yeah, it was more of a supporting tool rather than being or trying to be the main attraction. But the huge storm was also cool so they did well even with the obvious CG.
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Basebf555 posted:He deserved the nomination but I think the part was just a bit too small to justify the win, Magnolia is a true ensemble piece. I think Michael Clarke Duncan deserved it for The Green Mile. He probably should've been nominated for Collateral along with Foxx. Supporting Actor is an awkward category, isn't it? I don't think it's the award you gave to Kevin Kline for A Fish Called Wanda any more.
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Carrying on a derail from the trailer thread. This clip of a ceramic smashing fight scene from the new Mission Impossible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLiZeg6zU4M Got me thinking of other great bathroom smashing fight scenes, right up there with elevators and commercial kitchens as a great venue for a cinematic brawl. A couple of my favourites: True Lies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVEzoQzzd1I And World's End (a few years old now, but major spoilers in this): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYs7uguB_JQ With an honorable mention to - The Bourne Identity, which is borderline as only the climax of the fight commits gratuitous acts of violence against porcelain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLt7lXDCHQ0 Wheat Loaf mentioned the cold open of Casino Royale as a notable omission: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvr6uRvESvM Eastern Promise was also mentioned, amazing scene, but the damage here is almost entirely limited to flesh and bones, that fittings remain fairly unscathed (very NSFW): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd8TudYhSVw Which reminded me of the Red Heat because  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWsx8A38vlk I welcome any additions to the genre. The more tiles being destroyed by people punching them the better.
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Also, this is TV and an elevator rather than a bathroom, but I just wanted to mention the elevator fight from Altered Carbon because it was just so loving brutal and sudden and more people should watch that show, which while not perfect, had some pretty well choreographed fights and action scenes for TV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeyHttOw2uo
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Not a ton of porcelain smashed in this one, but still a really good scene: The Man From Nowhere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn0dxL00I-o More than enough smashed porcelain in this one though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLoJmHJUgII
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Back to awards talk, remember when the lead of a sci-fi action movie was nominated for an acting Oscar? Sigourney Weaver, for Aliens. Lost to Marlee Matlin for Children of a Lesser God.
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Payndz posted:Back to awards talk, remember when the lead of a sci-fi action movie was nominated for an acting Oscar? Uh, Sally Hawkins was nominated just this year and Sandra Bullock was nominated for Gravity. Timby fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Jul 11, 2018 |
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So I guess there isn't enough action for you in Charly?  I did guess right though, also supporting noms for Close Encounters and Star Wars and a win for uhhhh, Cocoon, but I guess only Star Wars is the only one that comes close to making the cut as action out of those. Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Jul 11, 2018 |
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Timby posted:Uh, Sally Hawkins was nominated just this year. Hardly an action movie though. Barely even sci-fi when you think about it. Anyway, I was pleased to notice Sally Hawkins as the assistant in Godzilla '14. Not just a face in the crowd either, she did have several lines and appears in a bunch of scenes. Makes sense that she would've been kicking around for a while but I never knew who she was until The Shape of Water. Looks like she's listed in the cast of the upcoming Godzilla sequel too.
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Gravy Jones posted:Carrying on a derail from the trailer thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgMvQiHuvqs
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This is my favourite bathroom fight. The villain, Alain Figlarz, is also the choreographer and was a stuntman in The Bourne Identity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmU6mCGfVHE It's a cyberpunk film with a great premise, bogged down with very by-the-numbers police procedural tropes. (It also suffers from having two parallel storylines that don't come together until like the last 20 minutes.) Still entertaining. There was a featurette on the DVD showing how they filmed it, and discussing the problems of filming fight scenes in tight spaces.
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Gravy Jones posted:Also, this is TV and an elevator rather than a bathroom, but I just wanted to mention the elevator fight from Altered Carbon because it was just so loving brutal and sudden and more people should watch that show, which while not perfect, had some pretty well choreographed fights and action scenes for TV: Elevator fight scenes are great. This one has some spoilers for a movie that barely has a plot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDIlDOnDNeY There was another one that very much reminded me of the Altered Carbon one. It was a Korean gangster film called, I think, A New World or something, but I can't find it now. Also, for Bathroom fights, Can't believe no one mentioned 'Unleashed' AKA 'Danny the Dog' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w33LC8DOJkk It's probably Jet Li's best western work, and the fight scene in the bathroom is actually among his very best work.
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Throw these into the pot from Bad Boys, though it might be cheating a little with the apartment shootout from Bad Boys II - Martin Lawrence is trapped in the bathroom! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqDU_EJrb2g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIQHqvG9Ql8
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Greatest bathroom scene in any action movie.
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Halloween Jack posted:This is my favourite bathroom fight. The villain, Alain Figlarz, is also the choreographer and was a stuntman in The Bourne Identity. This is pretty good, I like that my man had a knife the whole time and didn’t bust it out until round 2
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Upgrade has a bathroom fight. it's pretty tame compared to the rest of that movie though
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Man, you've really got to hand it to Tom Cruise. He may be a shithead, but the dude really puts in the work. I like pretty much all of his action movies, and that bathroom fight in the new Mission: Impossible looks ferocious. He's no spring chicken and he's still doing a lot of brutal stuntwork. It's cool. I feel like he has a real respect for physical stunts and stuntwork and seems to prefer doing things in-camera.
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Narzack posted:Man, you've really got to hand it to Tom Cruise. He may be a shithead, but the dude really puts in the work. I like pretty much all of his action movies, and that bathroom fight in the new Mission: Impossible looks ferocious. He's no spring chicken and he's still doing a lot of brutal stuntwork. It's cool. I feel like he has a real respect for physical stunts and stuntwork and seems to prefer doing things in-camera. Is he a shithead though? I mean he's friends with David Miscavige and doesn't seem to mind, like, having his motorcycle detailed by a small army of brainwashed slaves, but if you're being charitable you can chalk that up to bad judgement and colossal naivete. His reputation among people who've worked with him seems to be pretty good. Keanu otoh is the real deal and apparently lovely.
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Die Hard turns 30 this weekend. Now, I'm sure we all like Die Hard, so I'll ask this instead: what are our favourite Die Hard-alikes? Mine is Cliffhanger.
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Is The Raid a Diehardalike? edit: this must be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXsCAfmhZh4
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Jul 12, 2018 21:30
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Gotta be Under Siege, just for Jones and Busey.
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Speed. Hands down. Hasn't really held up but made a huge impact on me at the time.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Speed. Hands down. Hasn't really held up but made a huge impact on me at the time. Yeah, Speed falls apart after they get off the bus but most of it is great. But I feel like the gold standard is Dredd.
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Halloween Jack posted:Is The Raid a Diehardalike? It absolutely is. Probably the most stripped-down and minimalist version of the template possible, too.
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I do have a soft spot for Under Siege, it's the one time Steven Seagal made something that felt like a real movie! Everything else he made was either fun trash (early career snappin' arms before he got fat) or just poo poo (everything after Under Siege, basically.) I vaguely remember hearing that the Guy Pearce movie Lockout was OK, is that true?
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Clipperton posted:Is he a shithead though? I mean he's friends with David Miscavige and doesn't seem to mind, like, having his motorcycle detailed by a small army of brainwashed slaves, but if you're being charitable you can chalk that up to bad judgement and colossal naivete. His reputation among people who've worked with him seems to be pretty good. I can agree on both counts. Though, it's pretty evident that Scientology is pretty significantly evil. I mean, one could argue that he doesn't really know better, having been a member for a long time, and probably far enough removed from the day to day. Then that leads me to ask, how can he be unaware of all the evil committed by Scientology? Even still, he seems like a man with little to no malice. Keanu is pure.
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I don't know if Speed's necessarily a Die Hard riff. I feel like it's more of its own thing.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I don't know if Speed's necessarily a Die Hard riff. I feel like it's more of its own thing. Well McTiernan famously turned it down because it was too much like Die Hard. This was before they rewrote Keanu's character (famously, he was basically John McClaine one-liner snarky wisecracking guy and Keanu insteaded he be toned down into a polite and hard-working cop who only did a couple of one-liners) and re-engineered parts of the script, so who's to say?
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BTW in honor of Die Hard Day I feel everyone should read OutlawVern's extremely personal revisit of the film. http://outlawvern.com/2015/12/23/die-hard-3/ Preview quote:But there’s another kind of fantasy going on. When FBI agents Johnson and Johnson are choppering in, “Big Johnson” yells “Just like fuckin’ Saigon, eh slick?” Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Jul 12, 2018 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:Die Hard turns 30 this weekend. Now, I'm sure we all like Die Hard, so I'll ask this instead: what are our favourite Die Hard-alikes? I really like Deep Rising, though, I guess it's only loosely a Die Hard-like
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Deep Rising is an underrated little gem. It's hard to pick between The Raid and Dredd. I think Dredd is the better film overall but I'm a sucker for fist fighting, especially in that quasi-realistic style. The Raid 2 is balls-out nuts but it's more of a conventional kung fu film in that regard.
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