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Enourmo posted:Come back when she grows a beard that magnificent and we'll talk. She did get her eye brows back after the first episode if that qualifies.
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oohhboy posted:The doctor missed the other illness that you fix with alcohol, methanol poisoning. iirc the ethanol out competes the methanol pathway so the methanol gets excreted whole. That's a good thing to know, but luckily dogs and cats aren't dumb enough to consume methanol (usually). I do know of a few dogs and cats that enjoy beer and wine. People mention phosgene gas - sometimes animals will ingest zinc phosphide since it's used as a rat bait, and some dogs are dumb enough to ingest a whole ton of it. Usually the first thing that happens when someone brings their sick animal in saying, "they got into something!" is to make them throw up, which given zinc phosphide turns into phosphine gas when the stomach gets to work on it... well, that can be bad. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6116a3.htm
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HelloSailorSign posted:People mention phosgene gas - sometimes animals will ingest zinc phosphide since it's used as a rat bait, and some dogs are dumb enough to ingest a whole ton of it. Usually the first thing that happens when someone brings their sick animal in saying, "they got into something!" is to make them throw up, which given zinc phosphide turns into phosphine gas when the stomach gets to work on it... well, that can be bad.
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epipen posted:My understanding is that the experiments at Porton Down from 1939 onwards were 'voluntary', but volunteers were not meaningfully informed (and quite likely faced repercussions for not participating). The experiments were a mix of recognising the symptoms of newly developed biological/chemical weapons (both developed by germany and allied forces), treating victims, and seeing how to best deploy it. Porton Down and extremely not ethical are practically interchangeable. There was also a big stink in the late eighties and investigative journalism pieces on programs like Equinox about the facility's inability to safely house anthrax, plus, y'know, the CIA claim Porton Down was the source of the anthrax used in the attacks on US soil circa 2001
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Not to defend Porton Down, but I though the main suspect for the anthrax attacks was a US scientist using samples from the same stock he worked with?
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Computer viking posted:Not to defend Porton Down, but I though the main suspect for the anthrax attacks was a US scientist using samples from the same stock he worked with? Yeah Porton Down sourced their anthrax from the same place as the CIA, Fort Detrick, so the spores were identical. One suspect was a "contractor" who worked in the CIA's anthrax program.
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Basically the FBI is almost entirely certain it was an American anthrax researcher who was upset about a anthrax vaccine research program being shut down right around 9/11. The guy was mentally ill and killed himself with a Tylenol overdose shortly after being placed under FBI surveillance and shortly before he got linked to the specific batches of anthrax used in the attacks by some DNA traces on samples he had access to. IIRC shortly before he killed himself he also threatened to do a workplace shooting. The anthrax itself was a strain that came from a cow in Texas in the 80s and was named for a city in Iowa because the researchers at Ft. Detrick got confused about shipping labels. 
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C.M. Kruger posted:The guy was mentally ill and killed himself with a Tylenol overdose... Isn't that supposed to be incredibly painful?
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Proteus Jones posted:Isn't that supposed to be incredibly painful? Yes, it destroys your liver so not a quick one either.
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Preemptive "please don't start talking about the better/worse ways to kill yourself with household chemicals/OTC meds" comment.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Preemptive "please don't start talking about the better/worse ways to kill yourself with household chemicals/OTC meds" comment. It is a good thing that inert gases aren’t household chemicals or OTC meds.
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Platystemon posted:It is a good thing that inert gases aren’t household chemicals or OTC meds. Just trying to avoid 2+ pages of "if you think suicide by *Aspirin* is bad..."
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Platystemon posted:It is a good thing that inert gases aren’t household chemicals or OTC meds. The M*A*S*H theme song lyrics are only true if you do it with inert gases (or give a .45 a blowjob and angle it just right). Buy a bucket of liquid nitrogen, pour it on the floor in a sealed room, and die happy -- the "gently caress I can't breathe" pain response is from not being able to get rid of carbon dioxide, not lack of oxygen, so if you have something to breathe and carry away the CO2, but no incoming O2, you just get real drunk and sleepy feeling, and then die. Tylenol-induced liver failure is one of the worst ways to off yourself, I'm assuming anthrax guy did it to punish himself for his crime.
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Chillbro Baggins posted:Tylenol-induced liver failure is one of the worst ways to off yourself, I'm assuming anthrax guy did it to punish himself for his crime. a friend of my mother's did herself in with painkillers like that, then changed her mind. Sadly, her liver was already hosed and about a week or two later, the rest of her body followed.
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Jul 28, 2018 12:29
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A lot of people try to 'overdose on painkillers'. Over-the-counter analgesics are a completely different thing, but not everyone knows that.
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The Lone Badger posted:A lot of people try to 'overdose on painkillers'. Over-the-counter analgesics are a completely different thing, but not everyone knows that. Yeah, my bad for not being clearer. I didn't mean opioids, I meant she tanked her liver with over the counter analgesics.
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Jul 28, 2018 12:32
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If they'd only tried to overdose on cough syrup instead they'd feel a lot better.
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I meant that's why they take tylenol. They heard 'painkillers' are a good way to suicide and then they use the wrong type.
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There’s no way the FDA would let acetaminophen be OTC today. The difference between a therapeutic dose and a toxic dose is puny compared to most other drugs, and the number of people who wind up in the hospital for taking too much is pretty mind blowing. https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/09/11/tylenol-far-most-dangerous-drug-ever-made-11711
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Phanatic posted:There’s no way the FDA would let acetaminophen be OTC today. The difference between a therapeutic dose and a toxic dose is puny compared to most other drugs, and the number of people who wind up in the hospital for taking too much is pretty mind blowing. How does this compare to NSAIDs like ibuprofen? The article states that the TI is larger than that of acetaminophen, but the side effect “may burn a hole in your stomach lining if not taken with food” seems like a pretty big red flag for an OTC drug. Grundulum has a new favorite as of 14:32 on Jul 28, 2018 |
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Grundulum posted:“may burn a hole in your stomach lining if not taken with food” That’s a misconception. Long‐term use will wreck your stomach (and other body parts), and it does this whether or not you take the pills with food.
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Yes there are rare cases of ibuprofen getting stuck in the esophagus and causing burns.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Ick. What happened after? SENSUAL DAD KISS posted:If they'd only tried to overdose on cough syrup instead they'd feel a lot better.
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I discovered the wonders of phosphate ester hydraulic fluid today. I know you're not supposed to get it on you, but there was an explosively burst hydraulic line. I wasn't nearby, but I was replacing the line. I'd hosed the area down with isopropyl alcohol, then MEK, then more alcohol. Didn't think there was anything left. There was still a very thin film left. So I went from "hmm, my skin is itchy" to "wow, I itch all over" to "I'm covered in stinging ants" to "it literally feels like my skin is currently burning" in about twenty minutes. I was half an hour from clock-out when it started, so I was just going to stick it out until the bell. I ended up taking a shower in all my clothes on company time. Even after scrubbing in detergent AND surfactant, the irritation persisted for a while. My skin is still pink everywhere I leaned against something, and it's been nearly ten hours and three showers later. The SDS says it's not acutely nor chronically toxic and I shouldn't worry unless it's inhaled, but wow. This was not a fun day.
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Phosphates are weird.
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GWBBQ posted:Automatic transmission fluid On the latest episode of one of the Roadkill spinoff shows, they swapped an automatic transmission which, in true Roadkill fashion, dumped its liquid contents on the ground. One of the guys joked "ATF is mostly detergents, if you think about it we did [person whose driveway they made a Troma-esque bloodbath* in] a favor." * for those who don't frequent AI, ATF is bright red, like cheap horror movie fake blood.
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SENSUAL DAD KISS posted:If they'd only tried to overdose on cough syrup instead they'd feel a lot better.
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Chillbro Baggins posted:* for those who don't frequent AI, ATF is bright red, like cheap horror movie fake blood. or TFR, we love that poo poo as gun cleaner/lubricant. stinks though.
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MazeOfTzeentch posted:or TFR, we love that poo poo as gun cleaner/lubricant. I wonder if a couple drops of lavender or wintergreen oil would help that when used as a cleaner?
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:I discovered the wonders of phosphate ester hydraulic fluid today. Arglebargle III posted:Phosphates are weird. they sure are quote:Organophosphates (also known as phosphate esters) are a class of organophosphorus compounds with the general structure O=P(OR)3. They can be considered as esters of phosphoric acid. Like most functional groups organophosphates occur in a diverse range of forms, with important examples including key biomolecules such as DNA, RNA and ATP, as well as many insecticides, herbicides, and nerve agents.
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shalafi4 posted:I wonder if a couple drops of lavender or wintergreen oil would help that when used as a cleaner? ATF as cleaner/rustbuster is usually mixed 50/50 with acetone, so making it minty fresh probably wouldn't help.
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Because that dude has like the best narrator voice ever? And seeing the way 20 small glitches stack up into a catastrophic fuckup is fascinating? I'd love to see them go in on some historical accidents like the Grandcamp explosion.
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:Why can't I stop watching CSB videos? Don't concern yourself with such things just watch.
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:Why can't I stop watching CSB videos? Googled CSB videos and I am falling down this rabbit hole. T2 Laboratories incident...a runaway reaction making hydrogen gas, wcgw.
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Platystemon posted:That’s a misconception. This is true except: ketorolac (Toradol). There's a very specific reason you absolutely positively do NOT take it for longer than 5 days. (That reason is that bleeding stomach ulcers suck)
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Platystemon posted:That’s a misconception. So uh, how much is "long-term use"? Rent-A-Cop has a new favorite as of 17:58 on Jul 30, 2018 |
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There really, desperately needs to be a class of painkillers between NSAIDS and opiates. Something you can take long-term, nonaddictive, for moderate to significant pain.
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rndmnmbr posted:There really, desperately needs to be a class of painkillers between NSAIDS and opiates. Something you can take long-term, nonaddictive, for moderate to significant pain. Yes, buuuuuuuuuuuut One could argue that opiates being addicting and overprescribed is a feature, not a bug at this juncture. Lean on the doctors to prescribe them, and watch as people get addicted on them and come back for more. Knowing US pharma companies I wouldn't put it past them at all.
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