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Ghost Leviathan posted:That's pretty much the source of that 'Godzilla Threshold' thing in tvtropes; when the situation has degraded to the point where awakening a sleeping Godzilla has become a reasonable response. It seems rather fitting given the themes of nuclear weapons the franchise is rooted in. This is how Trump got elected imo.
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# ? Jul 29, 2018 13:30 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 12:29 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:That's pretty much the source of that 'Godzilla Threshold' thing in tvtropes; when the situation has degraded to the point where awakening a sleeping Godzilla has become a reasonable response. It seems rather fitting given the themes of nuclear weapons the franchise is rooted in. The thing is, "summoning Godzilla to defeat the greater evil, despite the inherent costs of doing so" has only really been "a thing" a handful of times. Usually when Godzilla is summoned, it's on a deserted island with no consequences (Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster), when Godzilla is explicitly a hero and avoids causing damage (everything Showa including and after Smog Monster), or (in the case of Final Wars) the world has already basically been destroyed anyway. The classic "Godzilla Threshold" calculation really only seems to apply in a handful of cases.
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# ? Jul 29, 2018 14:15 |
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:This is how Trump got elected imo. Please don't insult Godzilla like this.
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# ? Jul 29, 2018 14:37 |
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Neo Rasa posted:Please don't insult Godzilla like this. BUT BARAGON'S EMAILS!!
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# ? Jul 29, 2018 14:40 |
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HannibalBarca posted:The thing is, "summoning Godzilla to defeat the greater evil, despite the inherent costs of doing so" has only really been "a thing" a handful of times. Usually when Godzilla is summoned, it's on a deserted island with no consequences (Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster), when Godzilla is explicitly a hero and avoids causing damage (everything Showa including and after Smog Monster), or (in the case of Final Wars) the world has already basically been destroyed anyway. The classic "Godzilla Threshold" calculation really only seems to apply in a handful of cases. Yeah, pretty much. It's just a powerful image.
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# ? Jul 29, 2018 16:12 |
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:BUT BARAGON'S EMAILS!! Watch Mothra start a war with Syria.
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# ? Jul 29, 2018 16:19 |
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:This is how Trump got elected imo. He's going to build a wall and make the Meganulon pay for it.
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# ? Jul 29, 2018 16:24 |
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I had a dream that I had seen King of the Monsters and the thing that got me excited the most was Megalon showing up out of nowhere. That was a weird dream. I also watched GMK. Decent movie but that was one lovely looking Godzilla costume.
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# ? Jul 29, 2018 19:10 |
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VolticSurge posted:So the movie "Pentagon Wars" but with a giant robot? I'd pay to see that. General 1: This Mecha-Godzilla is all well and good Colonel Smith, but... Smith: Something wrong general? General 1: Well, with this thing in production, I don't suppose there will be much left in the budget for my Anti-Mothra weapon General 2: Doubt it Bob. General 3: You don't need anti-mothra weapons. You've got radar, anti-air missile platforms, that new Ion Ray Satellite. General 1: You always need an Anti-Mothra weapon. And you know what I'm thinking? Why couldn't this thing be our Anti-Mothra weapon? Smith: But it's a... anti-godzilla measure, general. General 1: But this is a fifty meter tall weapons platform, why can't it be both? Smith: Well, for one thing it is too big. And for another, it doesn't really have much in the way of ranged attacks. General 2: Sounds like a design flaw to me. General 1: We'll just increase the size of the power core, give it its own atomic breath. Smith: But sir, atomic breath wouldn't hurt Godzilla in the slightest. General 1: What's your problem Smith? Not elegant enough for you? ---- General 1: That's good work Smith. General 2: Thing is... Smith: *Exasperated* Yes general? General 2: Looks a little like Godzilla now, what with the redesign and the atomic breath now, doesn't it? Smith: Actually sir, that has come to our attention. General 2: We know it's not Godzilla, but will King Ghidorah? General 3: Thicker armor is too much of a reactive measure, even space titanium. I say we think proactive. How about we give this thing some heavy missile launchers. Knees, fingertips, chest... really show Ghidorah who is boss the moment that three headed bastard flies onto the scene. Smith: Fine! --- So what we have here, is an Anti-Godzilla weapon that can't beat Godzilla, an Anti-Mothra weapon that is too slow to shoot down Mothra, and a Godzilla shaped robot that can't stand up to one energy ray, but which will wipe out tokyo bay if any one of Ghidorah's three heads looks its way.
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# ? Jul 29, 2018 19:13 |
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Having worked on military aircraft production...yes...this is some of what goes on. I validate. But this has applications elsewhere too.
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# ? Jul 29, 2018 19:32 |
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I saw the king of the monsters trailer and holy poo poo I wanna see the film now. looks great e: also I wish my fevers manifested as cool monsters that kicked the poo poo out of infections
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# ? Jul 29, 2018 20:36 |
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Dylazodelan posted:It's a fun little movie more in the spirit of the original series rather than the 90s movies. The main character is a kid and Gamera is a little baby boy. I think I've whined in this thread before but my biggest regret is not buying the blu-ray of this at Fry's when I saw it for like $15 because now it's out of print and almost impossible to find, and when you do find it it's listed at like $300.
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# ? Jul 29, 2018 21:31 |
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Gatts posted:Having worked on military aircraft production...yes...this is some of what goes on. I validate. But this has applications elsewhere too. Looks like a riff on the F35.
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# ? Jul 29, 2018 22:39 |
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Looks like a riff on the F35. They really should make a Pentagon Wars 2 just to take a look at how bad the F35 program is.
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# ? Jul 29, 2018 22:50 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:They really should make a Pentagon Wars 2 just to take a look at how bad the F35 program is. The F-35 is doing what it was designed to do from the beginning: make defense contractors lots of money and provide jobs making it.
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# ? Jul 29, 2018 23:18 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:I had a dream that I had seen King of the Monsters and the thing that got me excited the most was Megalon showing up out of nowhere. I still say the G2K suit is my favorite; I wish it had stuck around longer.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 00:07 |
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Looks like a riff on the F35. I have scheduled, managed and planned production for F35 components and the other jets including C17.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 00:12 |
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The GMK suit is great imo, the only thing that would of made GMK better is if it was Anguris Varan and Baragon in the movie.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 01:31 |
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His head looks like a scaly dog and he's got a beer gut and doofy feet and his neck crumples whenever he looks down.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 02:00 |
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GMK suit looks cheap as gently caress but I dont mind the design.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 02:11 |
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Agreed though that Gz2000 suit is awesome. I also quite like the Tokyo SOS suit for the same reason.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 03:13 |
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I will go to the wall for the 1962 King Kong vs. Godzilla suit design. It is goofy, but it works. Also the scene where he came ashore and destroyed a Soviet military base was terrifying to me when I was five years old.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 03:32 |
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So I finished watching Godzilla Anime Pt. 1, and it confirmed to me that I wanted to watch anime Godzilla. Unfortunately I don’t really want to watch this anime Godzilla. I’m thinking I should watch part 2 with the original audio- it was mostly the voice work that killed this for me.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 04:30 |
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It's not the voice work itself, it's how much of it there is. So much goddamn talking and not enough monster action. Animation can do just about anything visually, so let's have a bunch of people with identical faces and identical outfits stand around and explain their plans to kill a monster in excruciating detail for an hour and a half. Meanwhile we'll have some wannabe Eldar ponce ramble on with some pseudo philosophical nonsense about Gods and wax poetic about Godzilla being divine.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 06:58 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:It's not the voice work itself, it's how much of it there is. So much goddamn talking and not enough monster action. Animation can do just about anything visually, so let's have a bunch of people with identical faces and identical outfits stand around and explain their plans to kill a monster in excruciating detail for an hour and a half. Meanwhile we'll have some wannabe Eldar ponce ramble on with some pseudo philosophical nonsense about Gods and wax poetic about Godzilla being divine. So in other words it's an anime.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 06:59 |
Ghost Leviathan posted:So in other words it's an anime. And a Godzilla film.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 07:54 |
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It is an anime but it should be Anime Ja Nai. A Gundam versus a Kaiju fight would be neat. Wash the crusty taste of RPO out of my mouth first. Anime frustrates me most of the time.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 08:00 |
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Anime is like 90% cost saving measures so they can blow all their budget on a few action scenes. (if you're lucky) It's hard to stop noticing once you realise the tricks they use. Avoid the long runners, the miniseries are always better. Well, usually. Sometimes.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 08:03 |
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Cromartie Highschool is the best because it is such a massive piss take on anime conventions while still managing to be funny in its own right. Woe betide anyone who comes across a person in the real world who identifies as an anime fan. I never bring it up unless someone asks me because they think if you're a fan of one show then you are a fan of all anime ever and suddenly they're reciting "the list" like it's a goddamn collectors game. But the Godzilla anime is still mediocre apart from the last three minutes where everyone dies.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 08:27 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:It is an anime but it should be Anime Ja Nai. Gundam v Kaiju is dumb because pretty much all Kaiju are very solidly in the super robot camp. Your typical gundam is under twenty meters, while your smallest godzilla is two and a half times that. It'd be a little robot toddler fighting a grown lizard. Actually, okay, maybe that would be pretty funny.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 19:12 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:So in other words it's an anime. Yea that was my problem with it, I went in hoping for a Godzilla movie done in an anime style, instead it was an anime that happened to feature Godzilla.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 19:13 |
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Caros posted:Gundam v Kaiju is dumb because pretty much all Kaiju are very solidly in the super robot camp. Your typical gundam is under twenty meters, while your smallest godzilla is two and a half times that. It'd be a little robot toddler fighting a grown lizard. Pretty sure something like 00 in trans-am would gently caress up a kaiju with extreme ease.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 21:21 |
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I couldn't even get through Part 1 and the news that there's going to be a 3rd is not encouraging me.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 21:54 |
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It was always going to be a trilogy, so it's not exactly news.
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# ? Jul 30, 2018 21:58 |
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Is it worth skimming through the anime Godzilla for the monster scenes or is even that not worth it?
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# ? Jul 31, 2018 02:44 |
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david_a posted:Is it worth skimming through the anime Godzilla for the monster scenes or is even that not worth it? Just watch the last three minutes of Planet of the Monsters.
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# ? Jul 31, 2018 02:53 |
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I went ahead and watched City on the Edge of....what, battle? today with subs. It was more tolerable to me reading than listening, but the monster action remains pretty sparse and subdued. I got all excited when they discovered Mechagodzilla City, but, alas... High point was probably right at the beginning, when the crew determines Godzilla can hit the mothership in orbit with his atomic breath.
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# ? Jul 31, 2018 06:06 |
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JBP posted:Pretty sure something like 00 in trans-am would gently caress up a kaiju with extreme ease. I thought we were talking about Gundam, not Megas XLR.
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# ? Jul 31, 2018 08:46 |
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The anime loving sucks.
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# ? Jul 31, 2018 14:17 |
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Yeah. I liked it while watching it, Godzilla and godzilla were cool and the idea that basically the whole planet had terraformed into godzilla particles made me laugh, but as time goes on, I realize I didn't really think it was that great and also that it wasn't. might watch the second while I'm doing something else. also planning to watch G2014 and A Quiet Place soon so not rushing for that right now e: it had the proper roar in it, thats always a plus E2 : man I forgot how much I liked G2014 in the actual monster bits. This first MUTO attack kicks rear end McDragon fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Aug 1, 2018 |
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