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Zomborgon posted:This isn't Harry Potter That's right, this is only just a story of a boarding school for gifted children with a quirky (heh) principal and quirky teachers which is so important to the system in place that villains attacking it shakes the foundations of society itself.
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Petiso posted:That's right, this is only just a story of a boarding school for gifted children with a quirky (heh) principal and quirky teachers which is so important to the system in place that villains attacking it shakes the foundations of society itself. There's no Snape, clearly the most important part of those stories.
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Jul 31, 2018 08:57
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Oh I forgot he lost an arm.
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Jul 31, 2018 10:13
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Jul 31, 2018 10:51
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Nighteye kinda felt like a filler-movie tier character to me. Generally you shouldn't introduce and kill people in the same arc, unless your series just kills the poo poo out of its cast.
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Jul 31, 2018 13:53
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yea I really didn't think they'd kill him like that. I guess his power is a little ridiculous but still
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Jul 31, 2018 13:54
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NightEye and LeMil were established for the same reason: the author wanted to raise the stakes with a body and a lost quirk, but didn't want to sacrifice any established heroes to do so. It's kind of amazing how much personality he gave LeMil considering he's a jobber.
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Jul 31, 2018 14:04
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mirio is no jobber. he's a true hero
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Jul 31, 2018 14:25
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Flytrap posted:NightEye and LeMil were established for the same reason: the author wanted to raise the stakes with a body and a lost quirk, but didn't want to sacrifice any established heroes to do so. How dare you slander Vault-Mite's good name. You take that back, right now!
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Jul 31, 2018 14:30
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you don't have to be chad from bleach just because you're a jobber. the most popular example being vegeta, prince of all jobbers
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Jul 31, 2018 14:37
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tbp posted:mirio is no jobber. he's a true hero
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Jul 31, 2018 14:47
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The gently caress is a jobber?
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Jul 31, 2018 14:50
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Crain posted:The gently caress is a jobber? It's a wrestling term for a person who constantly loses, specifically a person who loses to make another person look strong
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Jul 31, 2018 14:52
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The specific origin of the phrase is that losing is that person's job, therefore jobbing.
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Jul 31, 2018 14:54
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Crain posted:The gently caress is a jobber? Someone who's set up to take the fall to make someone else look good. The Big Show in the WWE gets a lot of talk about how he's a powerful titan that can break people with his bare hands, but it's usually to make it impressive when Roman Reigns or Brock Lesnar slams him through furniture or suplexes him so hard it makes the ring collapse. (At least that used to be. Won't lie, been a whiiiile since I paid attention to it.) Vegeta makes massive strides in power so that the big bad can beat his rear end to sell that this is totally the ultimate threat now. Flytrap fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Jul 31, 2018 |
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Jul 31, 2018 14:59
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Mirio is anything but a jobber if we go by that definition. Dude kept up with Overhaul quirkless after getting shot. Overhaul: the guy who skunked Rappa so much that Rappa decided to join his gang. If anything Overhaul's the jobber. poo poo Mirio could have taken down Rappa 1v1, could have done pretty well even without his quirk. Davinci fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Jul 31, 2018 |
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Jul 31, 2018 15:02
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Davinci posted:Mirio is anything but a jobber if we go by that definition. Dude kept up with Overhaul quirkless after getting shot. Overhaul: the guy who skunked Rappa so much that Rappa decided to join his gang. If anything Overhaul's the jobber. And he lost! That's the point. He was introduced to be cool and then to lose, which makes him a jobber. If the fight was cool, that just means Horikoshi did his job well. It isn't actually a sin to use a jobber in your story; it's only really a problem when you have characters whose only reason for being is to job over and over and never get to exist outside of that (which is why people dislike Chad's role in Bleach).
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Jul 31, 2018 15:08
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Found a cursed image, you must all suffer with me: All Blart Mall Might
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Jul 31, 2018 15:13
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Davinci posted:Mirio is anything but a jobber if we go by that definition. Dude kept up with Overhaul quirkless after getting shot. Overhaul: the guy who skunked Rappa so much that Rappa decided to join his gang. If anything Overhaul's the jobber. overhaul won the fight with mirio so by definition he didn't job. the point is to make the person that won look strong so it means more when they lose
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Jul 31, 2018 15:19
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Mario may have jobbed but he also gave us the the line about why heroes wear capes, so he's my favorite MHA character going forward
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Jul 31, 2018 15:20
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Manatee Cannon posted:overhaul won the fight with mirio so by definition he didn't job. the point is to make the person that won look strong so it means more when they lose Overhaul looked like a poo poo character winning, though. Like Marik vs. Joey in yugioh.
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Jul 31, 2018 15:45
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sure, you can make the argument that mirio didn't job. I was just saying that overhaul didn't
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Jul 31, 2018 15:58
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Mirio still has some role to play I think. Horikoshi mentioned that part of everything that happened in the Yakuza arc was setting up additional players to be present for the final battle at the end of the series. Mirio reeks to me like he'll be tempted with getting his quirk back by the badguys and possibly give in. His reaction to Suneater suggesting that Eri may be able to give his quirk back sooner rather than later was kinda weird imo.
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Jul 31, 2018 16:07
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I was re-reading Overhaul's arc and when I first read it I didn't notice that the LoV stole two packs of quirk-erasing bullets but only one of them is the finished product. I wonder if we'll get a scare of someone hitting one of the main characters with one of the bad bullets and everyone thinking it's a permanent one
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Jul 31, 2018 16:12
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Tsuyu gets hit with it and becomes a toad for a couple days.
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Jul 31, 2018 16:19
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thetoughestbean posted:Mario may have jobbed but he also gave us the the line about why heroes wear capes, so he's my favorite MHA character going forward 
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Jul 31, 2018 16:22
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he sacrificed himself for eri, threw away his hard fought dream solely to save her, like a real hero
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Jul 31, 2018 16:24
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Hahaha drat autocorrect
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Jul 31, 2018 16:31
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Crain posted:The gently caress is a jobber? Yamcha Also, like some people using 'meme' to mean 'joke' I think people are saying that a 'jobber' is now 'someone who loses a fight'
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Jul 31, 2018 16:51
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Also known as Worfing Which sounds like a dog barking, and whammo, perfect segue into... https://twitter.com/TheFizziestDog/status/1024142348056502277
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Jul 31, 2018 17:14
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overhaul only won against mirio because he destroyed mirios quirk. that doesnt make overhaul look like a badass it makes him look like a wuss
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Jul 31, 2018 17:59
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That doesn't mean Mirio didn't job. If the ref gets knocked out and the wrestler you're up against brings in outside help to beat you and you lose, you still jobbed.
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Jul 31, 2018 18:01
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See, when I think of jobber, something like this is what I'd use. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD1tTsMr2CE
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Jul 31, 2018 18:04
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RareAcumen posted:Yamcha Vegeta is the king of jobbers.
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Jul 31, 2018 18:05
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Jobbing is just "doing your job." It's wrestling knowing you're going to lose. Obviously it's not a perfect analogy because fictional characters rarely know the outcome of their fights, so it was broadened a bit to "losing a fight that the audience generally knows the character will lose, especially against someone that the main character will later have to fight and win against."
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Jul 31, 2018 18:08
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Andrast posted:Vegeta is the king of jobbers. And Genos is the Prince.
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Jul 31, 2018 18:11
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Jul 31, 2018 18:14
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Arist posted:That doesn't mean Mirio didn't job. If the ref gets knocked out and the wrestler you're up against brings in outside help to beat you and you lose, you still jobbed. Incorrect. If you don't lose clean, you're not jobbing. Jobbing is something much more specific than 'losing a fight,' jobbing means putting someone over, doing it clean, and not seeming like you were ever a viable threat once all is said and done. Jobbing is all about sacrificing one person's sell for the explicit benefit of increasing someone else's. The pro hero squad jobs hard for All For One. He casually wrecks all of them to build his own narrative strength at their expense. It firmly establishes that AfO is on an entirely different level on the fight card from anyone but All Might, the other headliner and, now, the only credible threat to him. Likewise, the League of Villains jobs to the other pro hero squad - they're locked down in moments and displayed to, at that time in the narrative, be no threat to a focused hero action. However, AfO does not job to All Might. They both come out of that fight looking strong, slapping each other around an increasing circle of ruined city, with All Might only even managing to win by retiring himself.
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Jul 31, 2018 18:15
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That's fair, I'm not actually a wrestling fan 
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yeah quoting you makes it look like i was aiming dead on at you, sorry about that. like a lot of wrestling terms i feel like it's extremely useful as a narrative descriptor so i wanted to get its use straightened out
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