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MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go

JHVH-1 posted:

This guy I used to work with would go every year to Disneyland with his wife as grown adults and it was weird. Then he had a kid so now its not as weird.
Yeah, as much as I want to play the chill "have any hobby you want" card, I'm with you. I have a friend who goes with her husband all the time. Just the two of them. And after their 15th trip of the summer, all painstakingly documented on Facebook, that's probably enough trips to Disneyland this year.

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Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Proteus Jones posted:

Yeah, either 1Password or Keepass are solid options. I prefer 1Password personally.

The dumpster fire that is LastPass should be avoided at all costs.

A bit late to the party, but thanks to you folks, I let my paid sub Lastpass expire and actually ponied up (more $$) for 1Password. It had no trouble importing the records from LastPass, and I find the app and browser extensions much friendlier.

In other news, we finally moved back to our newly renovated floor with the open office. I'm still not a fan, but it's not utter hell. We also just dropped several thousand dollars on privacy filters for the displays, of course.
The standing desks are a nice change, at least.

Literally the only person on the floor with an office is the VP of Finance. The *Legal* department is on this floor, and don't have offices. I'm not sure just how pissed off I would be if I was a corporate lawyer who didn't get an office, or how insanely concerned I would be about confidential documents on my screen...

Spring Heeled Jack
Feb 25, 2007

If you can read this you can read

Schadenboner posted:

Mrs. Schadenboner just texted me that she's reconsidering the wisdom of going to Disney World next year (in loving July) in favor of "just lying on a beach for a week somewhere".

:peanut:

E: Just to clarify that we have a roughly Disney-aged kid (even though he's not real big on any of their stuff), we're not one of those creepy Disney people.

Disney in July sounds like hell. Wife wanted to go for our honeymoon a few years ago and we ended up going towards the end of October, much cooler and it wasn't crowded to hell.

deedee megadoodoo
Sep 28, 2000
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one to Flavortown, and that has made all the difference.


Darchangel posted:

The *Legal* department is on this floor, and don't have offices. I'm not sure just how pissed off I would be if I was a corporate lawyer who didn't get an office, or how insanely concerned I would be about confidential documents porn on my screen...

FTFY. Knowing what I know about lawyers I feel as if my edit is more in line with their actual concerns.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer
I definitely feel like there are Disney people, and not-Disney people. I've become a lot less comfortable with conspicuous consumerism over the past few years, and Disney really embodies that in a lot of ways.

I suppose that makes me much less :911:.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer
We have a white noise system at our office, and it's the only thing that makes the open plan tolerable.

It cost in the low five figures for an office of 200ish people. Highly recommended.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
Mrs. Schadenboner is from :ussr: so I think it's, like, built up in their minds as being a lot more symbolically significant than it was (at least in my experience, I was there once when I was like 12 or so?)

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Docjowles posted:

I know where your new avatar came from, and it is goddam amazing :allears:

Would theoretically be down for a Vegas goon meet but in practice I had about 5 seconds of free time per day last year and I wanted to use those for introvert downtime.

No worries, my girlfriend is coming with so I doubt I’ll have much free time anyway. And I definitely get the introvert downtime thing. Being around people all day for days in a row is exhausting.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM
FWIW, every meal I ate at any of the Disney restaurants was very good. So make that count, I guess. Think about dinner while you're standing in line for hours.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


very stable genius posted:

FTFY. Knowing what I know about lawyers I feel as if my edit is more in line with their actual concerns.

I don’t know the folks involved well enough to judge, but I doubt that you’re wrong.

Thanatosian posted:

We have a white noise system at our office, and it's the only thing that makes the open plan tolerable.

It cost in the low five figures for an office of 200ish people. Highly recommended.

They have a white noise system, and your probably right. It doesn’t seem as noisy as I would expect, really. I know that the other floor that’s been converted to open definitely has a white noise system - I’ve seen it, and in certain spots, you can hear it. Sound like an HVAC air leak.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

Yeah those white noise systems are pretty great and do seem to really make a difference. A few jobs back I was working for a smallish ISP. They got a screaming deal on some nice office space; previous tenant that went bankrupt had installed a white noise generator (no way this cheap-rear end company would have sprung for it).

I was seated in the same cube farm as the call center folks and it really was shockingly not-awful. If I really needed to focus I still had to put on headphones. But it did a lot to hide the fact that I was surrounded by people on the phone all day and make it tolerable. We shut it off one day as a test and everyone simultaneously looked up in horror as the apparent noise level like tripled.

An even better solution is to Not Have loving Open Office Layouts, but if you gotta have one, those things help.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Docjowles posted:

Yeah those white noise systems are pretty great and do seem to really make a difference. A few jobs back I was working for a smallish ISP. They got a screaming deal on some nice office space; previous tenant that went bankrupt had installed a white noise generator (no way this cheap-rear end company would have sprung for it).

I was seated in the same cube farm as the call center folks and it really was shockingly not-awful. If I really needed to focus I still had to put on headphones. But it did a lot to hide the fact that I was surrounded by people on the phone all day and make it tolerable. We shut it off one day as a test and everyone simultaneously looked up in horror as the apparent noise level like tripled.

An even better solution is to Not Have loving Open Office Layouts, but if you gotta have one, those things help.

We have an expensive, complicated layout of white noise systems. We have tried every one ever made at this point. While it does help there are just some things that aren't possible right now. For one, conference space in an open office office concept all fall flat on their faces once you try to use a speakerphone for calls. Nothing on the market is going to keep these spaces from being a total interruption for 100's of feet around them unless the spaces has walls, a roof, and a closed door. My company has tried and failed on using mobile wall setups for these conference room spaces and none of them do even a passable job at containing noise.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

Well yeah that is just loving dumb. It's not the dang Get Smart "Cone of Silence". If your office has no conference rooms whatsoever that is a special level of hell.

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

The company I work for hired a new CIO and they did a quick intro call for everyone in IT, and you could submit a question anonymously if you like. Barely 3 days on the job and people are asking about organizational issues that have been a problem for years. I just don't understand, they don't know anyone, and have probably barely finished filling out the paperwork. Not the time to start slamming them with complaints about the dysfunction between silo'd groups in the company.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


is the deal with white noise that you just tune it out easily and it's loud enough to mask off other sounds?

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

skipdogg posted:

The company I work for hired a new CIO and they did a quick intro call for everyone in IT, and you could submit a question anonymously if you like. Barely 3 days on the job and people are asking about organizational issues that have been a problem for years. I just don't understand, they don't know anyone, and have probably barely finished filling out the paperwork. Not the time to start slamming them with complaints about the dysfunction between silo'd groups in the company.

On the contrary, now is the time to do it before he/she gets entrenched and gotten-to?

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice

Thanks Ants posted:

is the deal with white noise that you just tune it out easily and it's loud enough to mask off other sounds?

Yes, and it works incredibly well. My ceiling creaks and groans constantly when my above neighbors move around. I have one by my bed, and while it doesn't drown out everything, it's a lot better.

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice
My company is doing a summer picnic thing which is neat, it's at some golf and sports park with some arcade games, volleyball, and lots of other stuff, which is neat.

It's from 2p to 6p on a Tuesday and for EMPLOYEES ONLY, which is incredibly dumb. I'm only going because it's free and I would be working the whole time anyway.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


We have one of those coming up this Saturday. We're encouraged to bring family members, there's going to be a couple bounce houses, a raffle, catered bbq and other garbage.

I'm mostly only going because it's a chance for my son to run around for a couple hours with minimal supervision.

Weaponized Autism
Mar 26, 2006

All aboard the Gravy train!
Hair Elf
We have something similar next week, doing Escape Room (which I've never done before but sounds fun) followed by Dave & Busters.

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
I'd love to do an escape room type scenario

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

escape from your co-workers, sounds like a normal day for me, except do it while poo poo faced.

I'd prefer to go paintballing or something that will allow me to inflict the physical pain equal to the mental pain (some of) my co-workers cause me.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





An escape room with coworkers may end up with some dead coworkers.

adorai
Nov 2, 2002

10/27/04 Never forget
Grimey Drawer

skipdogg posted:

The company I work for hired a new CIO and they did a quick intro call for everyone in IT, and you could submit a question anonymously if you like. Barely 3 days on the job and people are asking about organizational issues that have been a problem for years. I just don't understand, they don't know anyone, and have probably barely finished filling out the paperwork. Not the time to start slamming them with complaints about the dysfunction between silo'd groups in the company.
This is exactly the time. They have ideas that are not biased to the way things are.

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

skipdogg posted:

The company I work for hired a new CIO and they did a quick intro call for everyone in IT, and you could submit a question anonymously if you like. Barely 3 days on the job and people are asking about organizational issues that have been a problem for years. I just don't understand, they don't know anyone, and have probably barely finished filling out the paperwork. Not the time to start slamming them with complaints about the dysfunction between silo'd groups in the company.

That's exactly what one should expect demand after taking on the role of a C-level anything.

A blunt, open readout of "Here's what's broken and needs fixing."

As a chief officer, it's your job to fix what's broken, improve efficiencies & processes, and ensure the continued viability of the company.

3 days in is a fine time to get a baseline reading of what's broken imho

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice

Internet Explorer posted:

An escape room with coworkers may end up with some dead coworkers.

I know exactly who, too.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Sniep posted:

3 days in is a fine time to get a baseline reading of what's broken who's a bitch baby imho

FTFY

I'd say it's a 50/50 on who's right in this situation; regarding how it will be viewed by the receiver. Although I suppose it's anonymous, but whatever, point stands!

Weaponized Autism
Mar 26, 2006

All aboard the Gravy train!
Hair Elf

Internet Explorer posted:

An escape room with coworkers may end up with some dead coworkers.

This may happen. My first "team building" game I did at my company a few years back involved the creation of a free-standing structure. You're basically put into teams and given a bunch of objects that you have to use to build the tallest tower you can. Duct tape, cardboard paper roll, string, pipe cleaners, poo poo like that. The team I was on...of course they go the obvious route that a class of small children would try. Let's build it straight up!! The solution is so obvious we can't lose!!!! Needless to say I just stood there :ughh: while literally every other team had some sort of tower build and my team couldn't even get it up over a foot in height. I suspect we'll see the same at escape room.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Kb5KjDAN_o

gooby pls
May 18, 2012



skipdogg posted:

Morimoto's to eat. Souvenir shop before I go home. I grab the kids some candy from Goofy's, and some stuff from the big Disney store for my wife and friends. We're big Disney fans, so I get that most people don't understand.

We took the kids to Disney last year and ate at Morimoto’s. He was actually back in the kitchen supervising and came out, greeted guests and took a picture with our family. Super cool guy and very gracious. Welp that’s my Morimoto story.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I’ve actually really enjoyed escape rooms with my department. Even though we lost both times.

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

MF_James posted:

FTFY

I'd say it's a 50/50 on who's right in this situation; regarding how it will be viewed by the receiver. Although I suppose it's anonymous, but whatever, point stands!

This would be an absolute culture clash non-fit in my book, if someone in a position of leadership/authority were to treat an open airing of issues, real or percieved, as "people being whiny bitches" instead of "valuable feedback to consider and act upon"

I'd leave or they would, if it were the case, at least.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

AlternateAccount posted:

FWIW, every meal I ate at any of the Disney restaurants was very good. So make that count, I guess. Think about dinner while you're standing in line for hours.

I know someone who goes to Disney World for just that reason every few months - they live down around South Florida and spend most of each trip getting trashed and chowing down at the good restaurants.

Sefal
Nov 8, 2011
Fun Shoe
Escape room owns.
Did one with the previous company I was at. It's fun


Internet Explorer posted:

An escape room with coworkers may end up with some dead coworkers.

lmao

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


I spent 10 hours in the past couple of weeks scheduling and creating an orientation presentation, only to have 2 people show up. One per session. Oh well, at least I got a good recording of it.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Docjowles posted:

An even better solution is to Not Have loving Open Office Layouts, but if you gotta have one, those things help.

This. Why won't it DIE?! It doesn't work for anything at all, ever. Everyone always hates it, even the people that think they like it actually hate it, they just don't know it.

I know part of it's me. I have a hard time tuning out audio and visual noise. People walking through my eyeline constantly is SUPER distracting, but I raised my monitors up high enough to mostly solve that. I end up listening to headphones all day. If we have you create all these barriers/boundaries on our own to counter the lovely office layout, wtf is the point?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

AlternateAccount posted:

This. Why won't it DIE?! It doesn't work for anything at all, ever. Everyone always hates it, even the people that think they like it actually hate it, they just don't know it.


Cheaper. Work still gets done. Same reason people outsource poo poo to whatever-stan.

Zapf Dingbat
Jan 9, 2001


quote:

Ops Manager:
Zapf Dingbat, can you call one of our techs and assist him with bridging two AP?

Zapf:
I'm off today

Ops Manager:
What? Who approved that?

Zapf:
It's my regular schedule
I'm working Sunday

Ops Manager:
So, in the time it took you to answer me you could have quickly assisted the tech.

Zapf:
from the dentist's office?

Ops Manager:
Not the point. Who sets your schedule?

Zapf:
it's a schedule that's been set for like a year now.... we have rotating weekend work

Ops Manager:
That's about to change.

Zapf:
ok then

Ops Manager:
Sorry to disturb you on your day off then.

Am I about to get fired for not working on my day off?

And in the dentist today I found out I need a root canal.

Oh yeah, and this is after what happened yesterday afternoon, where he always forgets I work an early shift in a different time zone, and I told him I couldn't do something because I was cooking dinner.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





Lmao at the you could helped instead of answering me line. gently caress that.

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devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik
Why the hell are you even responding if you’re on PTO?

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