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Is DBZA Buu confirmed or not? Because I was pretty sure were going to stop after Cell because Toei was taking legal action against them.
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Neo_Crimson posted:Is DBZA Buu confirmed or not? Because I was pretty sure were going to stop after Cell because Toei was taking legal action against them. Last I heard (and this was a few days ago) they basically said they'd feel irresponsible saying anything one way or another until episode 60 is done and dusted.
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Neo_Crimson posted:Is DBZA Buu confirmed or not? Because I was pretty sure were going to stop after Cell because Toei was taking legal action against them. Was never about legal action. According to Kaiser they had a moment of crisis whether to continue because once DBZA is over, that’s pretty much it for them. They wanted other creative stuff to fall back on so they can continue as a group. My own personal opinion on that is everything they’ve done outside of their abridged work for the series they’ve worked on is mediocre at best. They do nothing that other channels don’t do better (their lets plays, podcasts, everything really). I get why they are worried about it, but I think unless they strike some sort of gold in the next few things they create, they should really look at Buu as their last hurrah. Probably a bitter pill to swallow and they’ll try to survive past it, but right now I don’t see them making it far past that if the material outside their abridged stuff is anything to go by.
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Sep 1, 2018 08:04
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That was literally longer and worse than the Kai version of the same episode lmao
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Sep 1, 2018 08:05
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Ryaomon posted:That was literally longer and worse than the Kai version of the same episode lmao It was not? The episode was 22 minutes and Kai was 2 episodes of about 40 minutes
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Sep 1, 2018 08:42
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Josuke Higashikata posted:But it wasn't especially funny and it's definitely not that abridged. People keep saying this and I feel they are starting to forget how atrocious the original show's pacing was. 
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Sep 1, 2018 09:21
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Gohan stars in a million Linkin Park music videos - video description
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Petiso posted:People keep saying this and I feel they are starting to forget how atrocious the original show's pacing was. No, I remember how atrocious it is. There's still a lot to this episode (Part 1 of 2? 3?) and it feels kinda long. "Abridged" isn't meant to evoke that feeling. The fact it's shorter than Z and Kai doesn't mean too much to detract from that feeling.
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Sep 1, 2018 14:23
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The abridged series has really changed mandate over time. Back in the saiyan and early freeza sagas it was about trimming it down, actually abridging the material. Somewhere mid freeza they must've realized that people actually rather liked their takes on the characters, because the whole series from that point on became more about DBZ comedy edition, that just happens to be shorter.
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Sep 1, 2018 14:40
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16's speech was pretty gross, and just because it makes sense in DBZ land doesn't really change that. Fuckin weird when 1st attempt Funimation has a more viable option. Episode was still good, but jesus
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Sep 1, 2018 15:07
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Shinjobi posted:16's speech was pretty gross, and just because it makes sense in DBZ land doesn't really change that. Fuckin weird when 1st attempt Funimation has a more viable option. I enjoyed the episode otherwise
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Sep 1, 2018 15:13
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I quite liked 16 calling Gohan out on his cowardice and pacifism. Not sure where he got the idea that Gohan thought he was better than everyone though, but aside from that it was a good take on the speech.
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Sep 1, 2018 15:28
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TheLoneStar posted:I quite liked 16 calling Gohan out on his cowardice and pacifism. Not sure where he got the idea that Gohan thought he was better than everyone though, but aside from that it was a good take on the speech. He’s 11
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Sep 1, 2018 15:29
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CharlestheHammer posted:He’s 11
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yeah 16's speech was weird except for the very end where he wanted Gohan to use his head to beat Goku to death
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CharlestheHammer posted:He’s 11 I'm 6
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CharlestonJew posted:I'm 6 Wow!
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Sep 1, 2018 15:39
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I think the abridged one was a slightly better speech considering anybody 16 and Gohan have never really met before now. I honestly thought they'd play the "LET YOUR RAGE FLY OUT...LIKE A BIIIIIIIIRD" or something, but it worked. Looking forward to part 2 in about 5 years
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Sep 1, 2018 15:53
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Like, the main difference between this and the real speeches is that this one is a lot blunter. They ultimately mean the same thing- stop letting your fear control you, stop letting your high minded ideals blind you. Some fights have to be fought.
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The original wasn't just less blunt, 16 was approaching Gohan from the angle of actually empathizing with Gohan. He understood how he felt and why he didn't want to fight but nonetheless urged him on because sometimes that's just what you gotta do. That's why it worked and that's why it had to be 16 to do it because nobody else in the cast actually understands Gohan's feelings of pacifism. In this, he's just scolding him for something that he kind of doesn't have a lot of control over. There's no empathy, there's no understanding, he's just telling a terrified 11 year old to get over himself. It turns 16 into kind of a fucker. MJeff fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Sep 1, 2018 |
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Sep 1, 2018 16:15
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VJeff posted:The original wasn't just less blunt, 16 was approaching Gohan from the angle of actually empathizing with Gohan. He understood how he felt and why he didn't want to fight but nonetheless urged him on because sometimes that's just what you gotta do. That's why it worked and that's why it had to be 16 to do it because nobody else in the cast actually understands Gohan's feelings of pacifism. This. It's a really lovely note to end 16 on, after I've enjoyed all of his stuff up to this point.
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Sep 1, 2018 16:20
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Yeah 16's speech in Abridged confuses me and I'm not sure if it's TFS doing some weird making GBS threads-on-Gohan by proxy thing.
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Pureauthor posted:Yeah 16's speech in Abridged confuses me and I'm not sure if it's TFS doing some weird making GBS threads-on-Gohan by proxy thing. I'm kind of wondering if he was deliberately being a dick to try and provoke Gohan into snapping.
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Sep 1, 2018 17:31
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Yeah, that all took a turn for the worst when Android 16's head gave his speech. That's the kind of poo poo Cell would say and he already did. I also don't understand why Episode 60 has multiple parts. Just call part 2 "Episode 61" ya dinguses. Star Man fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Sep 1, 2018 |
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Sep 1, 2018 17:39
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VJeff posted:The original wasn't just less blunt, 16 was approaching Gohan from the angle of actually empathizing with Gohan. He understood how he felt and why he didn't want to fight but nonetheless urged him on because sometimes that's just what you gotta do. That's why it worked and that's why it had to be 16 to do it because nobody else in the cast actually understands Gohan's feelings of pacifism. The more I think about it too the more the "pacifism sucks lol" thing just seems really cringey to me. Like its loving bizarre that the original DBZ is a more nuanced take on this being that its, well, DBZ.
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Sep 1, 2018 17:42
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that speech felt like it was written by a tv tropes page
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Sep 1, 2018 17:44
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It's not that pacifism in of itself is bad, it's the concept of choosing pacifism over literally saving the world when there's really no other option and how that's bad.
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Sep 1, 2018 17:54
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Star Man posted:Yeah, that all took a turn for the worst when Android 16's head gave his speech. That's the kind of poo poo Cell would say and he already did. Vegeta finale was episode 10, Frieza finale was 30, Cell is 60. If the pattern follows, then Buu finale will be 100. Also I think they’re going to release part 2 soon and not another loving year from now.
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TheLoneStar posted:It's not that pacifism in of itself is bad, it's the concept of choosing pacifism over literally saving the world when there's really no other option and how that's bad. I mean, I get that he's not wrong. Dying with your morals intact still means you're dead. It was just more mean-spirited than I would have expected from 16. But I guess DBZA 16 is sort of a personality void other than "likes birds and Krillin" and "hates Goku", and Cell is definitely about to kill Krillin and birds, so maybe the killer robot is kind of a dick.
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Sep 1, 2018 18:27
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Remember back in the Frieza saga when they wrote Guru into a comically evil psychopath and Recoombe did Wrestlemania? Sure glad they ditched that crap so 16 could give Gohan an epic The Reason You Suck speech and everyone could feel bad.
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multijoe posted:Remember back in the Frieza saga when they wrote Guru into a comically evil psychopath and Recoombe did Wrestlemania? Sure glad they ditched that crap so 16 could give Gohan an epic The Reason You Suck speech and everyone could feel bad. What's weird is that everything else with 16, which I'm pretty sure was nothing interesting in actual DBZ, was really, really good in DBZA, but then they took the moment that makes people actually remember 16 as cool and good and made it suck. Maybe 16's speech was supposed to be ironically bad?
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rare Magic card l00k posted:Maybe 16's speech was supposed to be ironically bad? So long as we all agree it was bad.
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multijoe posted:Remember back in the Frieza saga when they wrote Guru into a comically evil psychopath and Recoombe did Wrestlemania? Sure glad they ditched that crap so 16 could give Gohan an epic The Reason You Suck speech and everyone could feel bad. They had jokes? Even 16s speech had jokes in it, to various degrees of success.
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Sep 1, 2018 19:10
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CharlestheHammer posted:They had jokes? Even 16s speech had jokes in it, to various degrees of success. They mainly have quips now. DBZA still has it moments, but the Cell saga has largely just been the vanilla plot with snark.
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Sep 1, 2018 19:18
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multijoe posted:They mainly have quips now. DBZA still has it moments, but the Cell saga has largely just been the vanilla plot with snark. Yeah it’s been like that since Frieza, it’s also when it stopped being unwatchable garbage.
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Sep 1, 2018 19:20
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CharlestheHammer posted:Yeah it’s been like that since Frieza, it’s also when it stopped being unwatchable garbage. If you want to watch vanilla Dragon Ball you are spoilt for for choices in the formats available. I thought it was quite funny when Vegeta was taunted by the ghost of Nappa as his plans came crumbling down around him.
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multijoe posted:If you want to watch vanilla Dragon Ball you are spoilt for for choices in the formats available. I thought it was quite funny when Vegeta was taunted by the ghost of Nappa as his plans came crumbling down around him. I like the more sitcom set up jokes rather than meme style humor. Either way it’s not the vanilla style either.
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