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Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

The Bloop posted:

Don't anyway. They're poo poo.

"yeah but like... modern ones are goooooood, maaaaaaaaaaaan"

-anyone, after I bring up the extra potential failure modes a sunroof introduces

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ssb
Feb 16, 2006

WOULD YOU ACCOMPANY ME ON A BRISK WALK? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU!!


I have had moonroofs on my last 3 cars with zero issues, that's like 10+ years of electric moonroof. I haven't heard of any of my friends having issues with a moonroof or sunroof from the last decade or so. They *are* fine now on anything that isn't some hunk of poo poo that isn't sold in the states. You could make the same arguments about all sorts of poo poo in modern cars - are you one of those people that don't trust fuel injection, think variable valve timing is troublesome witchcraft, and that engines should have stopped with the ACVW?

A moonroof can absolutely fail and cause some pretty ugly problems if it does but that's hardly unique in modern cars and they're worlds better than they used to be.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

I'm not a luddite, that's a hell of a leap to make. I've got very specific complaints about moonroofs, due to my height as mentioned; the potential for leaks and whatnot is just the icing on the cake.

ssb
Feb 16, 2006

WOULD YOU ACCOMPANY ME ON A BRISK WALK? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU!!


If your height is a factor that's absolutely understandable but bringing up all the failure modes that moonroofs introduce while dismissing pretty significant improvements over the last 20 years as a dumb argument makes it not that big of a leap.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Sunroofs have a lot more problems compared to just having a solid roof, and better than they used to be doesn't mean problem-free by a long-shot. In something close to a dozen cars over a bunch of makes that I, or my brother, his wife, and my parents have owned every one with a sunroof has had a problem at some point. Not always a bad problem, but getting stuck or leaking a little. I always try to buy cars that don't have them, but packages with other desirable features tend to bring them along. It's not that weird to not want to deal with them.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
I wouldn’t want a sunroof if it were free.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
You couldn’t pay me to get a car with a sunroof. I would refuse the payment.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

Oh man being anti sunroof because of failures is such a goon thing. I have a panoramic moonroof and it's awesome, especially on a Summer night. Off the top of my head I can't even think of anyone in my family that doesn't have one.

If you don't like them then whatever, that's fine, don't get one. If you are paranoid about it failing but you really like them, it will be fine.

The Dave fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Sep 8, 2018

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

The Dave posted:

sunny night

Wat.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

You don't have sunny nights? You need to move asap.

Typo for Summer night, maybe I got auto-corrected to that somehow.

extravadanza
Oct 19, 2007

The Dave posted:

Oh man being anti sunroof because of failures is such a goon thing.
^so true

I love my moon roof. Cars with sun/moon roofs have extra reinforcement in the roof. They don't degrade the crash rating because a moonroof is added.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

extravadanza posted:

^so true

I love my moon roof. Cars with sun/moon roofs have extra reinforcement in the roof. They don't degrade the crash rating because a moonroof is added.

Great, more dead weight slowing my car down and draining my wallet. :argh:

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

I've been driving a 98 accord ex for 10 years and have never once had a problem, oil the tracks once in a while you slobs

ssb
Feb 16, 2006

WOULD YOU ACCOMPANY ME ON A BRISK WALK? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU!!


Sunroofs/Moonroofs in vehicles apparently rank right up there with fire for goons as things that they find terrifying.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



*owns a convertible to own the goons*

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


shortspecialbus posted:

Sunroofs/Moonroofs in vehicles apparently rank right up there with fire for goons as things that they find terrifying.

Moonroof considered as a fire escape: an intractable conundrum!

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

shortspecialbus posted:

Sunroofs/Moonroofs in vehicles apparently rank right up there with fire for goons as things that they find terrifying.

Yeah I'm shocked that this can't live without it option is as controversial and scary as the ocean

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
My Corolla doesn't come in convertible guise, so I have to deal with the next best thing. I'm such a baller, I drive with the windows down, sunroof open and the AC on.

Real talk, the steel frame around my sunroof is rusty like a MOTHERFUCKER. As in, every time I open that bitch, rust flakes fall down the back of my shirt, and that bitch still don't leak.

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:
It sounds like it does leak, just not into the cabin.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy
I recently realized that I hadnt't been looking at any sale by owner listings and boy was I missing out.





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hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

It's a fixer-upper, sure, but the bones of a great early-90s health club are all there!

Queen Combat
Dec 29, 2017

Lipstick Apathy
You know what? I'd do it. gently caress it. For $220k in today's market, yeah.

value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008

The Twinkie Czar posted:

Hopefully you like beer, too.



I genuinely thought that through the window was a room full of Japanese styled hot tubs.

Scarodactyl
Oct 22, 2015


there wolf posted:

I recently realized that I hadnt't been looking at any sale by owner listings and boy was I missing out.


What the hell, is this Tunicate's house?

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

Queen Combat posted:

You know what? I'd do it. gently caress it. For $220k in today's market, yeah.

Did you notice they said it needs 100k worth of work? And it's in Georgia.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

therobit posted:

Did you notice they said it needs 100k worth of work? And it's in Georgia.

You can always move.


Queen Combat
Dec 29, 2017

Lipstick Apathy
I was gonna say Huck's Moving Castle

Queen Combat fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Sep 8, 2018

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

there wolf posted:

I recently realized that I hadnt't been looking at any sale by owner listings and boy was I missing out.



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wanna drive a golf cart past that house to pursue a turtleneck wearing British actor after he discovers the dark secret of THE COUNCIL that maintains the utopian last city on earth.

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!
Sunroof chat: my ex's second car (the first one literally caught fire while driving*) was a late-'80s Chevy Cavalier Z24 with a sunroof that leaked so bad it got a recall/warranty fix notice mailed out. But his dad had already "fixed" it with silicone caulk. (It still leaked.)

*'86 Subaru that was on its last legs when he bought it in 1997 at age 16. Sold the Cavalier to the neighbor for $50 after the steering wheel fell off. First cars are definitely the automotive equivalent of this thread.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

there wolf posted:

I recently realized that I hadnt't been looking at any sale by owner listings and boy was I missing out.


...

I'm thinking TNG colony world headquarters.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



there wolf posted:

I recently realized that I hadnt't been looking at any sale by owner listings and boy was I missing out.





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I kinda like it, but am disinclined to deal with all of the leaking windows and skylights and their resultant water damage.

Hard to tell if the kitchen and bathrooms were never completed, or being remodeled.

Which pro athlete’s home was this? Looks like a set-piece from the original Rollerball.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Megillah Gorilla posted:

r/abandoned porn despite its name is actually about abadoned buildings and is incredibly cool.
Would legit read a subreddit about the porn that didn't stand the test of time though. The porn that no one wanks to anymore, the porn that fell by the wayside, that is in desperate need of some explorers to bring it back to light and give us a glimpse of how things used to be.

Even if it's technically illegal wait no this idea's going all wrong

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

Blue Footed Booby posted:

I'm thinking TNG colony world headquarters.

Nah, too many trees to be within spitting distance of LA.

Mercury Ballistic
Nov 14, 2005

not gun related
A neighbor just had some random crew offer (and he accepted) to replace his roof for $3500, 25 year shingles, new tar paper, and plywood as needed. They did 95% on day one, ran out of shingles and finished the next day. As this was about 1/2 the low end price for anyone elses roof in the area, what can he expect? We assumed stolen materials, no license, illegal workers, etc.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Mercury Ballistic posted:

We assumed stolen materials, no license, illegal workers, etc.
They cased the joint and now have roof access for their greatest caper yet.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



Mercury Ballistic posted:

A neighbor just had some random crew offer (and he accepted) to replace his roof for $3500, 25 year shingles, new tar paper, and plywood as needed. They did 95% on day one, ran out of shingles and finished the next day. As this was about 1/2 the low end price for anyone elses roof in the area, what can he expect? We assumed stolen materials, no license, illegal workers, etc.

Size matters. Can you give a guess as to the size of the roof? Are there more than two slopes?

For a small 1-story house with a single gabled roof of moderate pitch, it sounds like a good deal.

If it is in excess of 8-10 squares (800-1000SF) and includes the dumpster/haul off/disposal, it’s likely something hinky.

Mercury Ballistic
Nov 14, 2005

not gun related

PainterofCrap posted:

Size matters. Can you give a guess as to the size of the roof? Are there more than two slopes?

For a small 1-story house with a single gabled roof of moderate pitch, it sounds like a good deal.

If it is in excess of 8-10 squares (800-1000SF) and includes the dumpster/haul off/disposal, it’s likely something hinky.

It's about 1000 ft 2, and they hauled off the old materials. Like I said, every other person in this neighborhood paid 6-7k at the low end for the same.

Also, there was only one color option for the shingles offered. Black.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
If someone offers to do work on your house out of the blue, it's pretty much guaranteed to 100% be a scam. Your mate just hasn't realised what it is yet.

I know a few people who have guys come to their doors and offer to put bitumen on their driveway and that turned out to be Z-grade watered down crap mixed with black paint. Look great immediately after they did it, turned to poo poo after a week's worth of driving.


I'm guessing you just need to wait for the first rain or strong winds to see where they scammed him.

Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Sep 8, 2018

Mercury Ballistic
Nov 14, 2005

not gun related
The crew was working on another nearby house. Not sure who approached who, but myself and other neighbors all think there is at least something fishy.

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Good contractors don't need to look for work.

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