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Billzasilver posted:how many powerups would kefla need to beat jiren? No amount of power-ups can make a fusion succeed. Getting a higher form would only mean the fusion would time out before accomplishing its goal.
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Manatee Cannon posted:I feel like people get more upset about dt than they do other people because it's rare for anyone to agree with him and thus he presents an easier target Look if someone tells you that the sky is green and pineapples are a type of fungus you're well within your rights to tell them they're dumb and wrong.
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Hey hey hey let’s not get hasty thrown green skyism under the bus to make a point.
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Blaze Dragon posted:SS4 was designed by Nakatsuru, yes, and Toriyama had nothing to do with the writing of GT, but he still did art for it. He designed Goku, Trunks and Pan (so he's completely to blame for Goku's horrible colour-coordination and Trunks' terrible outfit) and he was to blame for Pan not becoming a Super Saiyan. presumably he was expected to draw that too, but never did. No Pan not going super Saiyan totally Toei going well if she's too strong she can't get saved. Toriyama going he can't draw female super saiyans because they'd be too muscular (until Torotaro drew it and then he went ohhhhh) is a totally separate stupid thing. There's a lot of stupid with women and Dragonball and Torotaro's one saving grace is that he doesn't have that. His Bra vs Pan fight in dragonball AF was cool.
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TrilliontonNixon posted:Look if someone tells you that the sky is green and pineapples are a type of fungus you're well within your rights to tell them they're dumb and wrong. you can disagree with someone without insulting them for their opinion. apparently that is impossible for most people reading dt posts tho
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Nothing sets off a Dragonball fan more than praising GT and bringing up the fact Tien sucks.
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Blaze Dragon posted:I guess it looked too fierce on a woman or something? I can't tell either, especially since it's not like it looks any different in Caulifla than it did in any previous Saiyan. I imagine it had something to do with not being able to figure out a fitting hair style. Like, take Goku's Super Saiyan hairstyle and stick it on Pan, that poo poo'd look goofy as gently caress. In fact, I'm pretty sure every Super Saiyan has a slightly different hairstyle.
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Was funny when pregnant Videl went second hand Super Saiyan. Also, can't help but picture Bra and Pan being a female version of Goten and Trunks. (and for some reason also picturing the Angry Beavers' little sisters) I forget how much of an age difference there is between them.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Was funny when pregnant Videl went second hand Super Saiyan. Pans a year older.
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I don't know if this has been posted already but ooooh boy has cartoon network made a powerful enemy: the latin american fanbase https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn-3n8jzN2Y lezard_valeth fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Oct 4, 2018 |
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Kild posted:Pans a year older. So pretty much Goten and Trunks, ha. ...would they be Bran?
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Isn't there a Dragonball thing happening in Japan today? Something related to the new Broly movie? I thought I read somewhere that we could potentially be expecting some news or a new trailer or something. edit: I'm remembering now that it was supposed to be Friday, which I thought today was, but it kind of will be Friday in Japan soon, so maybe just ignore this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stNcR94uM5w e: meant this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vbgtk4ZuWs
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poo poo, this completely retcons Bardock's last stand. Why
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So the whole "first part of the movie is an extended look into the past" theory seems p accurate. That naked first form Frieza though. 
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:poo poo, this completely retcons Bardock's last stand. It was already retconned in dragon ball minus. Doesn't make the retcon any less lovely.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:poo poo, this completely retcons Bardock's last stand. Because Toriyama already did it with Minus, and this is adapting both that and the Broly movies. Still...geez. The movie looks amazing, and I'm hyped for it, but adapting two things I really don't like and that I genuinely think are some of the worst things Dragon Ball created sure puts a damper on that. I'd rather ignore something as good as Jaco ended in loving Minus, but I guess it's happening. Hopefully Toriyama will at least inject a bit of Bardock's original personality here instead of the Minus one, but I heavily doubt it. At least the family angle with the Vegetas, Bardock/Kakarot and Paragus/Broly should be interesting.
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I wish they'd just gently caress off with Bardock already. He's really lame.
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Monaghan posted:It was already retconned in dragon ball minus. Blaze Dragon posted:Because Toriyama already did it with Minus, and this is adapting both that and the Broly movies. To be fair, Minus was set a month before Freezer destroyed Planet Vegeta so there was still possible to cram the Special in continuity.
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It looks so drat good. Love the changes. We barely know anything about the Saiyans as it is.
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I should probably read Minus to find out why it's the worst. I already believe it's bad, just because of the inconsistencies I can see with Goku falling into earth and because it seems to be deleting all the cool saiyan women we saw from the anime special, but I'm curious about how deep the rabbit hole goes.
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Least it seems like it isn’t motivated by Goku crying. Not happy about them going with the minus recon. If I recall minus basically makes Goku Superman.
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I didn't know Minus was even canon. All I've really seen of it was Goku in Saiyan armor as a child so I thought it was some What-If scenario if he went to Earth but was a bit older.
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Andrast posted:I wish they'd just gently caress off with Bardock already. He's really lame. Nakatsuru!Bardock is actually really cool, since the special never actually tries to sell him as a hero and it's clear that we're following a villain protagonist here, it just so happens that he's facing someone even worse than he is. He never repents or changes, and while he dies happy, it's because he knows the son he didn't give the slightest of a poo poo about before will actually take revenge for him, not because he has a clear heart or something like that. He's a very different PoV character for Dragon Ball, heavily contrasting his son. Toriyama!Bardock is awful and I'm really not happy to see him here. Ooishi!Bardock is even worse but we can safely ignore Episode of Bardock completely. I guess it says a lot about Bardock that every writer seems to have their own interpretation of the character and it isn't the main writer that genuinely did him best. Dark_Tzitzimine posted:To be fair, Minus was set a month before Freezer destroyed Planet Vegeta so there was still possible to cram the Special in continuity. Only that part. Goku is several years older in Minus than he was in Bardock: Father of Goku, and Bardock seems to completely lack the psychic powers that actually made the special possible, not to mention how he acts entirely differently than he did in the special. You had to really force it to have both together. Herms translated the trailer, and it confirms we're retconning the poo poo out of said special. Goku is now the same age as Vegeta instead of several years younger. https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1047869411078561792 Shindragon posted:Least it seems like it isn’t motivated by Goku crying. Not happy about them going with the minus recon. If I recall minus basically makes Goku Superman. Goku was already Superman but Minus makes him even more Superman, yes. TheLoneStar posted:I didn't know Minus was even canon. All I've really seen of it was Goku in Saiyan armor as a child so I thought it was some What-If scenario if he went to Earth but was a bit older. Minus was written by Toriyama so that already gave it canon status by default, but Jaco appearing in Resurrection "F" sealed the deal, since Jaco exists to lead to Minus in the first place (despite Jaco being a much stronger manga than that horrible one-shot).
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At least if it adapting Minus, that Gine will probably show up.
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Blaze Dragon posted:Only that part. Goku is several years older in Minus than he was in Bardock: Father of Goku, and Bardock seems to completely lack the psychic powers that actually made the special possible, not to mention how he acts entirely differently than he did in the special. You had to really force it to have both together. I never said it would fit perfectly, but one could still assume Bardock getting psychic powers and defying Freezer could happen. Looking at the trailer again, and is pretty lame every Saiyan use the same armor now, makes everything look so bland. At least they kind of acknowledge the special   Also, NuBroly got his first SDBH card and he's known as Broly-Br  Thus, he's Broly-Broly 
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Rirse posted:At least if it adapting Minus, that Gine will probably show up. She appears in the trailer, so there's no probably there. Dark_Tzitzimine posted:I never said it would fit perfectly, but one could still assume Bardock getting psychic powers and defying Freezer could happen. The small cameos from Bardock's gang are neat, I can't imagine they weren't done on purpouse considering Broly's scars reference how he lost in each movie. I don't think they'll actually do anything, but hey, it's a nice callback. I agree on the armour thing as well. And oh. He's Brazilian Broly.
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Where is Freeza's shirt? Also they seem to be making this a generational dispute. Should be interesting, if only for an extended look at Saiyan culture.
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Minus is weird as it’s basically what if everything that made Bardock and the saiyans in general didn’t happen? It’s basically the same thing that happened to Big Boss in Metal Gear
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We're probably going to reach a point that comic book fans are used to with choose-your-own-continuity.
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Frieza put a loving shirt on. Also why is he so pink?
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Mr Satan isn't necessarily wrong about the party being a cover for an underground auction of stolen mega-weapons...
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I wonder if the reason Broly and his dad are fighting them is not the dumb "I got driven insane due to his crying" and now "You revived the guy who genocide our race, why!".
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Hm, and being in some frontier planet or whatever, they probably only got news of Freeza's death by the time he was revived. Which is lol. But that'd be kinda neat. Then Future Trunks comes visit and Broly and his dad take him out to Cracker Barrel to thank him for stopping Freeza and his dad, thus ending space tyranny for some years.
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Broly being the actual protagonist would be hilarious but we saw when they “tried” to make Goku look like the bad guy before.
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Rirse posted:I wonder if the reason Broly and his dad are fighting them is not the dumb "I got driven insane due to his crying" and now "You revived the guy who genocide our race, why!". Except that they're wearing Freezer's army's new armors, implying they're working for Freezer. If anything, is more likely Paragus is again, trying to gently caress over Vegeta due King Vegeta loving him over, to begin with.
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