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my gym the teacher riffs on everyone during the warm ups, bowing is optional, and we just knuckle bump our partners before we roll I thought like half the appeal of BJJ is that is didn't have the whole culty martial arts bullshit of other styles Freudian slippers posted:The actual, literal entire point of jiu jitsu is to beat power with techinque. If you're getting overpowered, work on your technique. Don't go head to head. If you're gassing, especially as a white belt, it's usually because you're using strength rather than technique, tensing up and failing to relax. Yeah, but at the same time if you have the same technique as a guy and are also stronger, you are gonna win. If BJJ was pure technique, there would be no weight classes in tournaments.
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Gracie Humaita: White or blue gi only, bow on and off the mat, bow to Helio after class, rash guard according to rank or lower.
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Oct 5, 2018 16:04
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Judo - blue and white only if you can help it (we won't kick someone out for having another colour, but we'll badger them and remind them that they won't be allowed at tournament). Bow in circle at beginning/end of class to each other and to Kano, bow on/off the mat, but pretty informal in the class itself. Consider that promotions through higher kyu and into the dan ranks in judo requires kata knowledge, which requires bowing technique, and that you can be DQed for having exceptionally lovely bowing at a tournament (I've only heard of it happening once). Jits - show up whenever we want, wear whatever we want. Helio is on the wall. I sometimes roll in a dry-fit t-shirt that has a celestial kitten eating a taco and pizza.
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Oct 5, 2018 16:16
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Bow on/off mat Start of class we get in lines by rank and bow End of class same and we snake around bowing & shaking hands Black belts are always refer to as Professor and any other belt is coach if they are teaching Pretty sure any gi color is allowed but they do need the school's 2 patches on (my reap knee for Satan patch is allowed) No gi only the school rashguard is allowed Gi any rashguard is allowed Bow/clasp hands before rolling No being on the mats in street clothes or shoes I think it's fairly formal but not outrageous. Digital Jedi fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Oct 5, 2018 |
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Oct 5, 2018 16:23
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I'd never last at a gym with a bunch of stuffy rules. Y'all can pry my Mega Man gi from my cold dead hands.
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Oct 5, 2018 16:24
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Crumps Brother posted:I'd never last at a gym with a bunch of stuffy rules. Y'all can pry my Mega Man gi from my cold dead hands. aw yeah Gonna finally order mine in a few days now that I comfortably fit into an A4
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Oct 5, 2018 16:25
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spacetoaster posted:When I started BJJ I had been lifting heavy for a few years and that strength covers a multitude of sins. Yah I started BJJ a few months ago after lifting for a long time and totaling about 1200 at 185lbs and strength really really helps with not getting swept or reversed. The other guy has to have perfect technique or also be really strong. Lifting also has made my shoulders so stiff and inflexible that just putting a figure four hold on my arm will get me to tap without having to crank it at all
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Oct 5, 2018 16:28
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I like how the foundational story of BJJ is Helio getting his rear end kicked and arm broken by a bigger, stronger guy
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- Our head instructor has us line up for warmups in rank order, other instructor doesn't - Everyone, including black belts, are on a first-name basis, rarely is a BB referred to as professor - End of class our head instructor has us line up to shake hands, other instructor doesn't - Wear whatever you want, both gi and nogi. If you want to wear a school gi that's cool (mismatched colors tops / pants for our school gis are standard), and we have guys wear competitor school gis as they transition into our school and no one cares - No bowing - to each other, the mat, to pictures etc. (we don't even have a picture of Helio) - Wear sandals when off the mat - No contracts, everyone is month-to-month - The thing guys get yelled at for most is using disposable water bottles - our head instructor has a hard rule that you need to use a reusable water bottle
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Mel Mudkiper posted:
Lol no, cult of the master is very much a thing especially WRT Reneer and Ryrons branch. The big appeal to jits is that it will work regardless of your opponent wanting it to or not. Edit: some of it may also have to do with the mcdojo set getting disillusioned with their current style or coopting bjj to get more customers and them transplanting their bs customs on it. Team branded Gi/rashguard is literally just a money grab regardless of some bullshit the owner will sell you about espirt de corps. [ASK] Me about being trained to be a manager at a mediocre jits school inside of basically a mcdojo. Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Oct 5, 2018 |
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CommonShore posted:t-shirt that has a celestial kitten eating a taco and pizza. You gonna post a pic of this shirt or....
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butros posted:- The thing guys get yelled at for most is using disposable water bottles - our head instructor has a hard rule that you need to use a reusable water bottle This is a good rule.
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Oct 5, 2018 16:47
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yeah our instructor doesn't care at all if you wear branded stuff. Like, he recommends it, but I wear a RMNU gi like once every two weeks
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SHOAH NUFF posted:Yah I started BJJ a few months ago after lifting for a long time and totaling about 1200 at 185lbs and strength really really helps with not getting swept or reversed. The other guy has to have perfect technique or also be really strong. Lifting also has made my shoulders so stiff and inflexible that just putting a figure four hold on my arm will get me to tap without having to crank it at all I have a very hard time getting anyone in a leg triangle. omg chael crash posted:Pictures of Atos are hilarious because it's like a 100 person class all wearing literally the exact same rash guard, shorts, and spats. It's like he's training an army. I'm at an atos gym and you wear whatever you want (just understand that competitions may have restrictions). No bowing, just fist bump before rolls. Also first names are fine.
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spacetoaster posted:I have a very hard time getting anyone in a leg triangle. Sorry -- I meant at the main school in SD
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omg chael crash posted:Sorry -- I meant at the main school in SD I don't have the money to buy all that stuff. My wife, and I, share two gi's. lol
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Old school: - White gis only - Big team patch "required" (but never enforced) - Line up in rank order at the start and end of class and during technique demonstrations - Snaking handshake down the line at the end of class New school: - The instructor will make fun of you if you show up late Most of the schools in the area seem to be somewhere in that range. Notably, despite the lax or nonexistent uniform requirements, a large percentage of people at both of the above schools choose to buy the school uniform because it's a nice gi (Fuji Suparaito) at a fair price and the custom design is sharp. My favorite formal gym thing is the guys that say "OSS" all the time. I used to do a more formal TMA that used it as a sort of punctuation mark between technique demonstration and drilling the way a lot of BJJ gyms do the "1-2-3-clap" thing, so it doesn't sound weird to me on its own... but I was at an open mat a while back that had a number of people from out of town, and one guy kept saying it for literally anything that happened. "I'm Nestharken, nice to meet you" "I'm Bob, ossss" [run into the wall, stop, scoot over, slap bump] "Osssss" [land a sweep on him] "Ossss" I had heard people joke about that kind of guy before but didn't think they actually existed.
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Nestharken posted:Old school: That's me except instead of "oss" I say "aiyaa" like Uncle from Jackie Chan Adventures
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Our kids BJJ does some of that stuff. They line up by rank for each class and do the snaking around high fives when it's over. What do you guys do to clean your mats? We've got a sprayer we put clorox/water in and then a few guys mop the mats with big swiffer mop things.
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spacetoaster posted:
We do the same. Pressure sprayer is so nice to have. We also have a Dyson vacuum to use first.
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spb posted:How formal are your gyms? Formal/Informal. Gi colors white, blue or black only. Bow on and off the mat. But I call my instructor by his first name. Make sure to introduce yourself to each person on the mat and bow to the highest ranked on the mat (usually just the black belts) before anyone else. That last one I understand is a bigger deal in Brazil. If you dont go around and introduce yourself and say hi, its considered rude (so I've heard, from my instructor who is from Brazil). Kind of makes sense.
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Old gym was a Gracie Barra so, all the rules and etiquette listed so far. Bowing, lining up, picture of Carlos, professor etc etc. Load of shite. Current gym, literally no rules. Like, can't think of one. Just pay your money and don't be a dick. Love it there (Grip house, Glasgow, UK).
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My school is tiny and run by a purple. Gi: No colour or affiliation restrictions for the gi When the instructor remembers we'll line up before or after class, sometimes by rank, and bow No-gi Do whatever, wear whatever Slap and bump prior to rolling Bow on and off the mats, but this is convention and not a rule Instructor by his first name, though he sometimes get called "coach" I've never been to a place that had a photo of Helio, that's pretty weird imo. Overall I like a bit of formality, but I strongly dislike having to buy special gis.
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Mekchu posted:You gonna post a pic of this shirt or....  
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I'm down with tradition and respect but I always found bowing to the picture of a founder a little too much. Even if it's a guy like Kano who I fully respect. I grew up doing traditional martial arts so when I started BJJ it also corresponded to young adult indepence and iconoclasm. As a result I only purchased black gis and bowed to no one for a couple years. Then I got a little older and realized that was dumb too, so now I wear white gis and bow if that's what we're doing today.
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Xguard86 posted:I'm down with tradition and respect but I always found bowing to the picture of a founder a little too much. Even if it's a guy like Kano who I fully respect. I p.much agree with this. I like having a picture of Kano around, but I'm not big on bowing to it - though on Wednesday a kid asked who the guy is and why we bow to him, so that gave us an opportunity to teach a bit of history, which is cool. The only bow which I really like is into the mat area, as it creates a big of a symbolic boundary around the practice space. That practice can keep people a bit focused in that area and keep people from wearing shoes &c - the practice space is a special space with special rules, which is true even if we remove lame spiritual poo poo, and that bow reinforces it. Bow to start competition is fine too, I guess.
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Oct 5, 2018 20:12
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Just ordered the CTRL x Genki Sudo Neo Samurai gi. I normally always buy the cheapest academy gi but I couldn't pass this up. https://www.ctrlindustries.com/products/the-neo-samurai
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That is awesome looking. I now also want one.
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I like the formalities, it makes this thing we do, killing each other or getting killed, feel more honorable
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Oct 5, 2018 20:38
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I train at Ultimate Fitness so everyone is shirtless even during gi classes
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Yuns posted:Just ordered the CTRL x Genki Sudo Neo Samurai gi. I normally always buy the cheapest academy gi but I couldn't pass this up. Oh man I am always up for more Genki Sudo in my life
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Yeah, but at the same time if you have the same technique as a guy and are also stronger, you are gonna win. If BJJ was pure technique, there would be no weight classes in tournaments. Jiu Jitsu means soft/flexible technique. If you're being overpowered, you'd do well to let your opponent smash himself into a submission or sweep. Yes, strength matters. However, technique matters much, much more. That's why Royce won the early UFCs and why Marcello would murder Haftor "The Mountain" Björnsson in a grappling contest. As you say, strength comes into it when you and your opponent are roughly within the same skill bracket. However, one hour of training technique will make you better at jiu jitsu than one hour training strength. Thus, it makes sense to focus on your technique, as it will faster put you in another skill bracket. It's literally more bang for your buck.
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Freudian slippers posted:Jiu Jitsu means soft/flexible technique. If you're being overpowered, you'd do well to let your opponent smash himself into a submission or sweep. Yes, strength matters. However, technique matters much, much more. That's why Royce won the early UFCs and why Marcello would murder Haftor "The Mountain" Björnsson in a grappling contest. As you say, strength comes into it when you and your opponent are roughly within the same skill bracket. However, one hour of training technique will make you better at jiu jitsu than one hour training strength. Thus, it makes sense to focus on your technique, as it will faster put you in another skill bracket. It's literally more bang for your buck. As someone who has actually rolled with Marcelo, mentioning him as part of a "strength isn't important" argument is really funny. Dude is a loving miniaturized gorilla. Sure, spending 10 hours in a week rolling is gonna make you better at grappling than spending 10 hours a week lifting. However, spending 8 hours a week rolling and 2 hours a week training strength and conditioning will make you better at grappling than just spending those 10 hours rolling.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY0PL5RYU8M There are levels to this poo poo.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:As someone who has actually rolled with Marcelo can you please recount how this was? i am genuinely fascinated watching marcelo tap askren like a dozen times in six minutes and just cannot imagine rolling with someone like him.
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Marching Powder posted:can you please recount how this was? i am genuinely fascinated watching marcelo tap askren like a dozen times in six minutes and just cannot imagine rolling with someone like him. It felt the same as rolling with anyone else who's 1000x better than I am, so I don't think I can give too much insight. You do as much or as little as they feel like allowing you to do.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:It felt the same as rolling with anyone else who's 1000x better than I am, so I don't think I can give too much insight. You do as much or as little as they feel like allowing you to do. fair enough. i feel like that with good purple belts.
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Freudian slippers posted:Jiu Jitsu means soft/flexible technique. If you're being overpowered, you'd do well to let your opponent smash himself into a submission or sweep. Yes, strength matters. However, technique matters much, much more. That's why Royce won the early UFCs and why Marcello would murder Haftor "The Mountain" Björnsson in a grappling contest. As you say, strength comes into it when you and your opponent are roughly within the same skill bracket. However, one hour of training technique will make you better at jiu jitsu than one hour training strength. Thus, it makes sense to focus on your technique, as it will faster put you in another skill bracket. It's literally more bang for your buck. dude, you should really lift weights
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I will say there is this one dude I roll with who is the skinniest dude I have ever seen and hes almost impossible to beat because it's like rolling with gumby. Dude is crazy flexible. One time after rolling I asked him where he learned to rubber guard and he was like "what's rubber guard". Dude just naturally does it
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