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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:It might make making the bed difficult? Yeah actually the more I think about it, the more crazy that sounds; don't mind me. Making the bed is going to be a pain either way, and I feel like sheets/etc are just going to knock into stuff over there.
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Amazon black friday early sales are starting and I noticed this (DWS779) was selling for $349. According to Camel^3 this is a match of the lowest price it's been at in a year or two. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01ESCU5WS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 This is just the 780 saw ($500) minus the LED / shadow guide for the blade. Read some reviews and people have either retrofit the LED setup directly for about $60 and some sautering or bought a $22 aftermarket laserguide such as this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Oshlun-LG-M01-Miter-Portable-Laser/dp/B002PMV4UG/ref=pd_lutyp_wish_3_6 Anyone know much in particular about aftermarket laserguides like the one linked above?
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The consistent message I've heard on laser guides is that they aren't worth paying extra for. They're never going to be quite as accurate as you can get by lining things up manually, so at best they help you quickly get the piece into approximately the right position. But that's not exactly hard to do. I have enough practice with my miter saw that I can generally get the blade within 1/16" of where I want it to be on the first try. I can't imagine that a laser guide would be much better.
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That Works posted:Amazon black friday early sales are starting and I noticed this (DWS779) was selling for $349. According to Camel^3 this is a match of the lowest price it's been at in a year or two. That’s a great deal on that saw and I wouldn’t worry about it not having a guide.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:The consistent message I've heard on laser guides is that they aren't worth paying extra for. They're never going to be quite as accurate as you can get by lining things up manually, so at best they help you quickly get the piece into approximately the right position. But that's not exactly hard to do. Kaiser Schnitzel posted:I’ve never liked laser guides because they always seem to be inaccurate/out of adjustment. We have that exact saw at work with the LED shadow guide thing and it works great with no adjustment for different blares or anything. Much better than a laser, still not quite as accurate as setting the blade on the work on your cut line. Edit: Thanks both, was kinda my take as well. Laser or LED guide seemed a bit of a needless luxury as I'm not getting paid by the hour to construct stuff with this thing.
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I have the non sliding version of that miter saw. Really wanna sell it and get that one:( I don't bother with the laser, but I appreciate that the insert is removable like a table saw's, so I replace it and make it zero clearance. No help for beveled cuts but it's the best virtually free upgrade you can do imo.
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Anyone ever used Osmo Wood Wax finish? Seems expensive but I've heard good things.
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Someone tripped the SawStop in the shop I am a member of. He had no clue why it tripped and said his hands were no where near the blade and he was using a push stick. Looking at the video he was standing on the fence side of the saw, with his right hand extremely close to the blade, and left hand using a push stick on the back of a ~24" piece hanging off the back of table. One hell of a selling point on the safety of a SawStop that he didn't even know his hand hit the blade. I am still not a fan of them as he didn't know he was being unsafe and even after thought he did everything correctly  lovely part is that is the second time in less than 24 hours it got tripped. First was caused by someone setting the blade to high and hitting the aluminum T track on top of a cross cut sled. Roughly $300 in parts in a day and a saw down for 2 days while a new stop is picked up. Thinking about making it a clock and hanging it in the shop  
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My old shop had one hanging out in a box that they showed people when they did their woodshop clearance classes But turning it into a clock or something would be fuckin dope And just keep adding clocks to the wall like an old timey newroom every time someone trips it Also I can’t figure out what the gently caress you’re describing for how this dude was standing
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Sockser posted:Also I can’t figure out what the gently caress you’re describing for how this dude was standing lovely cropped picture but you get the idea 
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JEEVES420 posted:lovely cropped picture but you get the idea What a tool. I had to
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JEEVES420 posted:lovely cropped picture but you get the idea Is Is that a featherboard And he’s What the gently caress
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I went down to the tools store over Roy Underhill's shop this weekend and the guy running it had a funny story about Chris Schwarz thinking he was dumb for using a sharpie to measure the camber grind on new irons. Also it scares the poo poo out of me any time I use a table saw without the whole kickback teeth/blade guard apparatus setup. I've had to take it off a time or two for cuts I can't remember and I feel like I'm transporting hand grenades.
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JEEVES420 posted:lovely cropped picture but you get the idea HAHA. Perfect saw stop commercial Your clock idea is really cool
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JEEVES420 posted:lovely cropped picture but you get the idea Amazing, I hope he watched the footage of him 'doing everything correctly'. Personally I sold my lovely Skil table saw this weekend and bought a low-angle jack plane.
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JEEVES420 posted:lovely cropped picture but you get the idea Get a shaper and really weed out the idiots in a hurry.
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Band saw blades walk too much for a straight rip. Table saw is the right tool for that job just not like that. There is a router table and routers but luckily not many people know what that table is much less how to use a router.
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Sockser posted:My old shop had one hanging out in a box that they showed people when they did their woodshop clearance classes Just hang them on the wall and mark them with a sharpie when the incident happened, maybe put the name of whoever triggered it if you want to go full passive aggressive wall of shame, but I would find it interesting seeing a wall of destroyed saw blades and when they got sawstopped.
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I’m kind of tired of the mental gymnastics and tedious clampery of constantly trying to jig poo poo for using my router to ‘bowl out’ trays and stuff. I think I want a little router table for Christmas. Any thoughts? Nothing fancy. Smaller side is better, not tons of space. Rockler has a little folding/clamp-able one. I just need something I can fence 2 sides on (to form a corner) and then just work downwards routing out a tray/bowl shape.
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JEEVES420 posted:One hell of a selling point on the safety of a SawStop that he didn't even know his hand hit the blade. I am still not a fan of them as he didn't know he was being unsafe and even after thought he did everything correctly e: yeah https://www.sawstop.com/support/report-a-save/ Hypnolobster fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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JEEVES420 posted:Band saw blades walk too much for a straight rip. Table saw is the right tool for that job just not like that. Feenix posted:I’m kind of tired of the mental gymnastics and tedious clampery of constantly trying to jig poo poo for using my router to ‘bowl out’ trays and stuff.   You might discover either way that even with a router table, 90% of using a router is still trying to make jigs so you can use a router.
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Feenix posted:I’m kind of tired of the mental gymnastics and tedious clampery of constantly trying to jig poo poo for using my router to ‘bowl out’ trays and stuff. The filming is pretty awful on the Popular Woodworking videos but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naMlbjHKh08 or go buy the Kreg one Sockser fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:You just need a bigger bandsaw! 3/4 or 1” blades do the job-my old boss had a 38” Crescent from the 30’s that you could pretty much throw 16/4 mahogany through as fast as you could push it. Doesn’t pinch when wood moves as you rip it and much safer all around, but it does require a heftier saw and the cut has to be jointed to smooth/straighten it. It’s a little slower now that I’m working with a smaller saw, but still absolutely my preference for busting stuff up, especially thicker stock. We have a Laguna LT18 SE (and a Delta 14 and Jet 14). I have resawn wood on it but it always goes in the planer afterwards. We are getting a 12" 3hp table saw so 16/4 can be chopped on that instead 
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JEEVES420 posted:We have a Laguna LT18 SE (and a Delta 14 and Jet 14). I have resawn wood on it but it always goes in the planer afterwards. We are getting a 12" 3hp table saw so 16/4 can be chopped on that instead I found a decade old Laguna LT24 and it is certainly a fine saw (except the fence drives me crazy) and I was so excited about it after all the rave reviews until I realized I was going to be disappointed by every bandsaw ever after 8 years with 15 hp and 242" of blade. 
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I made a door  Here's the inside face, where you can see the rabbet for the glass panel. Going glass shopping on Friday with my friend who does that kind of work.Time to go study how to hang doors. 
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Like this one?? (Kreg router table). https://www.kregtool.com/store/c35/router-table-systems/p141/precision-benchtop-router-table/ And do I need to worry about whether my Ridgid will mount to it, in general?
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Feenix posted:Like this one?? (Kreg router table).
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Sometimes we does cutting boards, sometimes we does coachworks. I've been sprucing up my late wife's old Infiniti with new upholstery (hog rings, doncha hate em?), killer soundsystem- M.B. Quarts behind that grill now instead of shittybose- but the vinyl arm rests are just tatters, and who can do that poo poo? Not me. Plus that decorative bow or arc whatever it is on the panel was all scarred up on both doors. However, I had a piece of Honduran mahogany laying around for years, so I figured this is a good place to use it. Compound laminate on the bow wasn't all that hard, but then loving hell, I had to bandsaw the door lock & window control panels to fit back. Eh, whatever. Passenger's side I had to glue in a loving dutchman (drat bosch), and I'm fine with that. Really makes that fake plastic burl look as lovely as possible. kinda wish I had another piece of mahogany.. 
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That's some really nice work. I, uh...do car manufacturers still do real wood interiors? I can't remember the last time I saw anything like that in the wild. For my part, y'all convinced me to get an Incra miter gauge, and it is really nice, except for the bit where there's not enough room for it to fit into my bandsaw table if the fence is in close. Fortunately it turns out to be really easy to make a "miter gauge" so long as you don't mind it being locked at 90 degrees. Long scrap of wood to fit into the slot in the table, short tall scrap to rest the piece against, glue and screw, then use a square to get the angle set right. Now I can cut 64 identical cubes for an upcoming Christmas gift! 
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:That's some really nice work. I, uh...do car manufacturers still do real wood interiors? I can't remember the last time I saw anything like that in the wild. God, I don't know. Maybe some of the custom very high-end ones, but I kinda doubt it. I really had no other option the way those things are manufactured. TooMuchAbstraction posted:For my part, y'all convinced me to get an Incra miter gauge, and it is really nice, except for the bit where there's not enough room for it to fit into my bandsaw table if the fence is in close. Fortunately it turns out to be really easy to make a "miter gauge" so long as you don't mind it being locked at 90 degrees. Long scrap of wood to fit into the slot in the table, short tall scrap to rest the piece against, glue and screw, then use a square to get the angle set right. Now I can cut 64 identical cubes for an upcoming Christmas gift! Their stuff is top quality. You look at a picture of the miter gauge and think it's costly and it looks flimsy because of the aluminum gauge part or something, idk. Then you get it in your hands and it's the solidest, best thing ever made.
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:What flavor table saw? I let a 7.5 hp Powermatic 72 for almost nothing slip away from me a few years ago and have been kicking myself since. If I had a beast table saw I would definitely use it more. We are looking at a Baileigh TS-1248P-52. Baileigh is relatively knew to the wood side but is well known in metal. From what all the old guys in the shop say Powermatics from the 70s are great machines but anything new from them is a piece of poo poo. No clue if that is just a "back in my day"  talk or if it holds true. We have a Powermatic lathe, joiner, and planer which get far more abuse than they deserve. At what point do you stop calling it a bandsaw and just call it a lumber mill, that thing is a beast.
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JEEVES420 posted:We are looking at a Baileigh TS-1248P-52. Baileigh is relatively knew to the wood side but is well known in metal. From what all the old guys in the shop say Powermatics from the 70s are great machines but anything new from them is a piece of poo poo. No clue if that is just a "back in my day" Powermatic and Jet are owned by the same company and both come out of the same factories-Powermatic may be built to a higher tolerance or it may just be that fancy gold paint that makes it cost more. Either way, both are well manufactured in my experience. Most of what comes out of Taiwan seems to be good quality these days, though in an era of planned obsolescence probably designed and built to last a decade or two not half a century.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:That's some really nice work. I, uh...do car manufacturers still do real wood interiors? Bentleys, certainly. That particular style of "really this car should be driven by a chauffeur" type luxury vehicles, except these days ballers drive their own Bentleys anyway, so now they also have hyper performance engines inside their 4 ton behemoth luxury cars. I digress: yes, very high end luxury cars still have wood in them. This is the interior of a brand new Continental:  And this is the Benteyga Mulliner, with "Ombré Burr Walnut veneer" trim:   At this price range, they don't put fake plastic wood in there. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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Leperflesh posted:Bentleys,... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQX_EpmGtmk
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:I think a lot of the grumpy old man talk is just because it’s made in Taiwan now and more reliant on modern precision engineering instead of just more cast iron. Even a lot of the old stuff is far from perfect-I have a drill press from probably the mid 80s/early 90s that has horrible ergonomics and the fit/finish leave a lot to be desired. The old planers, table saws and tenoners are about perfect machines though. I remember when Jet showed up, their stuff was a level below expectations, which fed the knock on Taiwanese equipment. Grizzly started out with high quality specced Taiwanese machinery in the early 80's, I think a few years after when Jet started getting a foothold here. Grizzly took off like gangbusters because their stuff was 1/2 the cost of Delta, 1/3rd the cost of Powermatic, with equal quality and precision, and the old grumps of my generation bought in and stfu'd about Taiwan.
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Taiwan #1!
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Cutting boards are pretty fun. This one is ready for the RO sander, Walnut and Maple. Next one is going to have some more intricate work but I'm not quite ready to try a 3D board.  
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That's some sweet bookmatching there. Looks great!
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JEEVES420 posted:Cutting boards are pretty fun. This one is ready for the RO sander, Walnut and Maple. Next one is going to have some more intricate work but I'm not quite ready to try a 3D board.
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