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old.flv posted:weren't you at Ralph's for a while? have you heard anything through the grapevine about him assaulting Flavio Almeida? I was only at Ralph’s for a few months when I initially moved to San Francisco.
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Mekchu posted:Edit - Kurt Osiander is coming to Korea. Has anyone done a seminar by him or anything and can speak to if I should head up to Seoul where its likely to be held? Kurt’s cool if you don’t mind sexism and a real 1990s sort of dedication to calling everyone “gay” and “homo” He’s a great coach, and has some of of the best fundamental jiu-jitsu on the planet, but he’s a real old school guy and it’s awfully grating
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What the hell - Bay Jiu Jitsu shuts down for "winter break""?
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Count Roland posted:You have a coach who is actively interested in promoting you. He's trying to figure out how to do it while maintaining his (clearly very high) standards. He's communicating this to you, and giving you advice and metrics to help you. I appreciate this post, and the message my coach sent, and I feel pretty good about it. I just needed a couple of days for the initial disappointment to wear off. I’m going to pick a few competitions this year, take them seriously, diet down to a better weight class, and cover my body in gold medals, rendering myself invulnerable like smaug
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heeebrew posted:What the hell - Bay Jiu Jitsu shuts down for "winter break""? The War on Christmas rages on...
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omg chael crash posted:Kurt’s cool if you don’t mind sexism and a real 1990s sort of dedication to calling everyone “gay” and “homo” While a shame to hear (and not that shocking given his general persona, age, etc.) I think I can stand it for an hour or so. It'd be a weekend trip up to Seoul it seems which isn't too bad because I could swing by my old gym up there for a weekend class.
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omg chael crash posted:Kurt’s cool if you don’t mind sexism and a real 1990s sort of dedication to calling everyone “gay” and “homo” Don't forget his liberal use of other homophobic slurs and saying he would throw people out of his gym if he finds out they're LGBT.
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homophobia in jiu jitsu is weird If you are not comfortable with your sexuality and have gay panic issues don't master an art that is 70% putting someones balls against someone else's face
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Neon Belly posted:Don't forget his liberal use of other homophobic slurs and saying he would throw people out of his gym if he finds out they're LGBT. Oh, yeah. I was trying to be kind of funny but he's a real loving piece of garbage.
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dude looks like a bassist from a grunge band that got bitten by a werewolf, he doesn't have to worry about a gay dude getting aroused by rolling with him
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https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/a7ljn0/i_grabbed_the_instructors_dick/
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It's a tradition at our school where instead of shaking hands or bumping fists before a roll we grab each other by the dick so that we get it over with and make it less awkward
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I've gotten two accidental fondlings already, both when someone is on their back and reaching for an underhook on my leg. Its actually notable to me how non sexual Jiu Jitsu has felt - intimate yes, but not at all sexual. I guess all full contact combat sports are like that once you're actually doing them.
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Yeah its not sexual at all unless you think being killed is sexy
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spb posted:Yeah its not sexual at all unless you think being killed is sexy Dont kinkshame
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That's the first thing everyone notices is how IDK ordinary it becomes to grope and grab all up on each other.
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I think that's probably what makes grappling not much bigger than it is. We never ever get that close to people and there's a bunch of taboo's and whatnot. When you've been doing it for a while it just seems so dumb and immature, but I can sort of see how gay it looks from an outsiders perspective
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Do BJJ places haze very often? Is that what this is? It just got uploaded a couple of days ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IorCwzfYk2s At my gym you have to roll with everyone who shows up to a class when you get promoted. But it's a fun thing. Someone wrote an article on the gym where this happened: https://www.jiujitsutimes.com/disturbing-video-exposes-gym-abuse-of-unconscious-student-at-evolution-gym/ spacetoaster fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Dec 20, 2018 |
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KingColliwog posted:I think that's probably what makes grappling not much bigger than it is. nah i think it's a rigid adherence to an unwatchable ruleset that keeps it on the fringes. we need an ebi ruleset ultimate fighter to bring it to the masses.
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spacetoaster posted:Do BJJ places haze very often? Is that what this is? It just got uploaded a couple of days ago. I've heard vague stories about the bad old days with the first instructors in the states, specifically Atlanta, doing really lovely things to their students, but I think this level of crap is kept out of here or relegated to the super old school gyms. Marching Powder posted:nah i think it's a rigid adherence to an unwatchable ruleset that keeps it on the fringes. we need an ebi ruleset ultimate fighter to bring it to the masses. I agree, but I honestly think if quintet was able to get Joe Rogan to do their play by play or someone good and charismatic it would be that show. Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Dec 20, 2018 |
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spacetoaster posted:Do BJJ places haze very often? Is that what this is? It just got uploaded a couple of days ago. We do belt whips
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spacetoaster posted:Do BJJ places haze very often? Is that what this is? It just got uploaded a couple of days ago. Shark tanks are pretty common around promotions/special events and are basically hazing if we're all being honest with ourselves, but they're still contextually relevant and usually done to push someone to the edge of their limits *but not further*. Belt whipping gauntlets also seem to be kinda common, and they don't really have anything to do with BJJ, but whatever. I've also seen some promotion ceremonies where someone's instructor chokes them unconscious as a ritualistic thing, which is... weird. Holding a choke a full six seconds after someone clearly taps isn't just hazing, it's assault.
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The shark tank is the perfect level of hazing. You get to see a person pushed to the limits of what they're capable of within the scope of the sport, people who usually wouldn't be able to tap you get a crack at you when you're super tired, which makes it kind of humbling, but it's also bonding through shared stress or whatever. I think the fact that you're hazed in BJJ by doing BJJ makes a lot of the negative aspects of hazing seem forgivable. It's not a separate ritual.
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Absolutely agree, that's what I was getting at with "contextually appropriate". Everyone I know who did a shark tank for a promotion has fond memories of it, myself included, and that's not just the latent masochism of coming back day after day to get beat up that's an intrinsic part of the hobby.
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Nestharken posted:Shark tanks are pretty common around promotions/special events and are basically hazing if we're all being honest with ourselves, but they're still contextually relevant and usually done to push someone to the edge of their limits *but not further*. Belt whipping gauntlets also seem to be kinda common, and they don't really have anything to do with BJJ, but whatever. I've also seen some promotion ceremonies where someone's instructor chokes them unconscious as a ritualistic thing, which is... weird. Yeah, that video was pretty disturbing and it was assault. I don't know what the laws are in brazil though.
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Defenestrategy posted:I agree, but I honestly think if quintet was able to get Joe Rogan to do their play by play or someone good and charismatic it would be that show. Jimmy Smith's UFC contract has ended and he is a free agent at the moment.
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Hazing for a belt is still as equally stupid as hazing high school kids to show how tough they are in an after school sport.
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Got babbys first popped rib this morning. gently caress this is uncomfortable.
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spacetoaster posted:Do BJJ places haze very often? Is that what this is? It just got uploaded a couple of days ago. If my gym did anything even close to that I would not be back the next day
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butros posted:Got babbys first popped rib this morning. gently caress this is uncomfortable. I popped the cartilage around my ribs once. It was awful, especially when coughing or laughing, that was agony.
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I don't think I've trained anywhere with organized hazing but I've had stuff like getting hog tied with my new blue belt by the assistant instructor. Or just getting absolutely tooled in a roll by a coach before a stripe.
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I saw a shark tank at my gym when someone got their blue belt, but it was good natured and the 20ish year old kid had specifically asked for it; it was a lot of fun and no one got hurt. From my perspective it was very cool getting to roll with him when he has already 6+ rounds in, I got to watc him assume a survival position for a minute or two, using the roll with a no stripe white belt as basically a break. It was a demonstration of exactly what I was trying to learn from Jiu Jitsu University, done much better than I could.
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Mekchu posted:I popped the cartilage around my ribs once. It was awful, especially when coughing or laughing, that was agony. Yup pretty much. Also I just discovered pooping isn’t a great time. How long did it take you to come back? I’m basically off for the holidays until early January anyways so am thinking two weeks of RICE and then come back in slowly drilling only for a week or two before adding in rolling with trusted partners only?
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Yeah I honestly dont see a shark tank as hazing
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butros posted:Yup pretty much. Also I just discovered pooping isn’t a great time. I took two weeks off and came back into rolling very slowly, probably could have used more time off.
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Is there a polite way to say you don't want to roll with a person in a class? Should you just say something like: "I'm sitting this one out." or something? My daughter just turned 13, with is when you move into the adult classes at our gym. She's super nervous and I'm trying to tell her it's gonna be fine and she doesn't have to do anything she doesn't want to. The blackbelt who runs the particular class she's going to says there are other teens there, but she's worried they won't be there and she'll have to roll with some giant, sweaty, 50 year old man or something.
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spacetoaster posted:Is there a polite way to say you don't want to roll with a person in a class? If it's a 13 year old girl just have her tell the dude "I'm not comfortable with that yet"
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spacetoaster posted:Is there a polite way to say you don't want to roll with a person in a class? Yeah that's totally fine. I say "I'm good, too much of a size difference" all the time and nobody's feelings get hurt, other than my own for having to face the reality of being a tiny baby man
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