|
Dr.Smasher posted:What we do around here, is benefit brat frys for people. If someone has cancer, or trying to recover from heart surgery, or other medical issues, people will have a brat fry at a bar, where people can buy brats and The day I learned about whiskey tags was an informational day for me about Wisconsin and Minnesota.
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2019 00:22
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 31, 2024 03:52 |
|
|
They are currently fitting a custom fabricated set of weird-shaped pipes into the old crumbling brick sewer down my street to save money rather than ripping it out. Complicating it was finding some 100+ year old wooden pipes that needed to be replaced.
|
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2019 00:30
|
|
|
yeah the wood, brick, and terracotta pipes are all unpressurized drainage, not pressurized fresh water.
|
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2019 00:34
|
|
|
Dr.Smasher posted:What we do around here, is benefit brat frys for people. If someone has cancer, or trying to recover from heart surgery, or other medical issues, people will have a brat fry at a bar, where people can buy brats and
|
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2019 00:44
|
|
|
Splicer posted:Do they hold a brat fry for the people injured by brat fry drink driving in an never ending delicious cycle? I have extra chips/cheese, go buy <opposite> and make nachos.
|
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2019 01:35
|
|
|
Dillbag posted:Moisture getting stuck behind housewrap was a major contributing factor to Vancouver's leaky condo crisis. In the 80s/90s, I frankly didn't think they used any wrap at all with EIFS installations, buy maybe I'm wrong on that (I don't have a reference handy). I thought they typically applied directly to the substrate.
|
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2019 03:27
|
|
|
The brick line is a sewer. The line that ruptured was installed in the 1920s, so was probably cast iron. Philadelphia is an old city, and thus has quirky old infrastructure, but I don't think any of the wood pipes are still in operation, although lots of it was abandoned in place. What are in some houses, still, are lead mains. Behold, from one of my inspections in 2012:  I explained to the homewowner that they should probably not drink their tapwater, and call the water dept sooner than later...although, I think the city treats the water against lead (as Flint did...until it didn't)...and, just out of the top of the frame, is a fairly new PWD meter. PainterofCrap fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Jan 28, 2019 |
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2019 04:45
|
|
|
Speaking of lead, I found out we have lead sewer pipes in our new-ish house (purchased in July). We have a bathroom torn out to replace the subfloor and the flooring, and as I was trying to wrestle a piece of concrete board around the toilet out, my amateur-rear end cut was a little off and hung up on the pipe. So I was looking at this thing up close, and managed to get the wax off of it, but as I was cleaning it I bent it. With my bare hands. So I struck it with a small hammer, and instead of the *ting* I'd expect from iron, it was more of a *thud* and a deformation of the metal lip of the pule. So that's cool. Scared the hell outta my wife though so I had to go show her that, indeed, the fresh water supplies are all copper pipes and not lead. Oh, and there was no toilet flange installed on this thing! The loving hillbillies that work around this area were just drilling into the floorboards instead of installing a proper flange! 
|
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2019 05:30
|
|
|
Splicer posted:Do they hold a brat fry for the people injured by brat fry drink driving in an never ending delicious cycle? I have heard of people getting picked up for DUI #12, so this is a distinct possibility the newspaper here has a section in summer on weekends of where the brat frys are. It's wonderful.
|
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2019 07:24
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2019 13:54
|
|
|
Apart from the obvious, I also like the conspicuous plunger.
|
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2019 13:58
|
|
|
gvibes posted:I think that was not really a house-wrap problem, it was building places without an exterior drainage plane. My understanding is that traditionally, you would have a porous outer weather barrier (like brick or siding), a drainage gap/plane, then some of wrap. When EIFS and that sort of thing came out, they thought "hey, this is totally impermeable/has no joints/etc., let's just skip the whole drainage plane." That's the reference to "face-sealed" systems in the wiki page. Of course, nothing is perfectly impermeable/leak-proof in practice, so once water got in, it never left. See the "screen-drained" vs. "face-sealed" here - https://www.avenerecladding.com/why-neacera/rainscreen/approaches-to-wall-design/ Current house has EIFS. Aside from being pretty ugly and probably impossible to remove easily, we have gotten fairly lucky. It was installed over pre-existing brick and they were smart enough to leave the bottom open for drainage. Had a specialist come out and look over and test for moisture penetration and retention during the inspection period, ended up being perfectly fine. Still hate the poo poo though because it's like a playground for termites, so I have to constantly be on the lookout for mud tubes getting up the foundation.
|
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2019 14:27
|
|
|
This recent article about Toll Brothers and their shoddy faux stucco/EIFS is a good example of the horrors caused by bad waterproofing: http://www.philly.com/real-estate/housing/water-damage-home-construction-defects-rotting-toll-cutler-stucco-20181115.html I'll take vinyl siding over Tyvek all day over 'stucco' that hides the extent of the damage until it's way too late.
|
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2019 15:23
|
|
|
couldcareless posted:Current house has EIFS. Aside from being pretty ugly and probably impossible to remove easily, we have gotten fairly lucky. It was installed over pre-existing brick and they were smart enough to leave the bottom open for drainage. Had a specialist come out and look over and test for moisture penetration and retention during the inspection period, ended up being perfectly fine.
|
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2019 16:44
|
|
|
Baronjutter posted:Top 5 Dumbest Building Products OK so #1 cardboard sheathing is absolutely lovely, but #2 he doesn't understand why it needs to be breathable (moisture can be carried in both directions by air preventing mold and rot so it MUST be water permeable in some fashion because water can come from internal humidity as well as weather) and #3-5 he's just complaining about poor installation and should probably educate the installers on how to do it in such a way that can mitigate the issues he is pointing out. It wouldn't even be that hard. This video is 80% filler 'content'.
|
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2019 23:18
|
|
|
My videos on cement vs expanding foam are 100% filler content.
|
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2019 23:50
|
|
|
Budgie posted:OK so #1 cardboard sheathing is absolutely lovely, but #2 he doesn't understand why it needs to be breathable (moisture can be carried in both directions by air preventing mold and rot so it MUST be water permeable in some fashion because water can come from internal humidity as well as weather) and #3-5 he's just complaining about poor installation and should probably educate the installers on how to do it in such a way that can mitigate the issues he is pointing out. It wouldn't even be that hard. This video is 80% filler 'content'. It seems like he's the front face sales rep for some sort of high end insulation company. A youtube Bob Vila.
|
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2019 23:50
|
|
|
Azza Bamboo posted:My videos on cement vs expanding foam are 100% filler content.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 00:28
|
|
|
Azza Bamboo posted:My videos on cement vs expanding foam are 100% filler content.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 01:43
|
|
|
B-Nasty posted:This recent article about Toll Brothers and their shoddy faux stucco/EIFS is a good example of the horrors caused by bad waterproofing: http://www.philly.com/real-estate/housing/water-damage-home-construction-defects-rotting-toll-cutler-stucco-20181115.html This article is insane, they might as well have just used tissue paper for those places.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 02:01
|
|
|
Pinata house
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 08:21
|
|
|
peanut posted:Pinata house Hit it with a stick and a cloud of mold spores shoots out! Fun for the whole family!
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 17:24
|
|
|
B-Nasty posted:This recent article about Toll Brothers and their shoddy faux stucco/EIFS is a good example of the horrors caused by bad waterproofing: http://www.philly.com/real-estate/housing/water-damage-home-construction-defects-rotting-toll-cutler-stucco-20181115.html anyone have a link to something other than: 
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 17:27
|
|
|
schmug posted:anyone have a link to something other than: "Open in private window."
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 17:31
|
|
|
schmug posted:anyone have a link to something other than: Try running an ad blocker or open in in incognito/'porn mode'. I've never seen the Philadelphia Inquirer limit articles, but I use uBlock. efb
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 17:33
|
|
|
no go. I'm using Chrome with two blockers and tried incognito and still get the same thing. loving weird. I tried another browser and I'm still getting paywalled. schmug fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Jan 29, 2019 |
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 17:39
|
|
|
schmug posted:no go. I'm using Chrome with two blockers and tried incognito and still get the same thing. Lol, they're tracking by IP now it appears.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 17:44
|
|
|
hosed up is unless it was a link from this thread I can't remember ever going to that site. philly sux anyways 
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 17:48
|
|
|
I had the same problem in chrome but it opened OK (relatively) in IE. At least the paywall reset there. I'm about 99% sure I haven't ever read an article on the philly.com site previously so I'm pretty sure their paywall stuff is jacked up.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 17:57
|
|
|
That link is worth a click for sure. Looks like they built with OSB they pulled out of a swamp. Moneyshots -     In response to the leaky condo problems in Vancouver, rainscreens are now code in British Columbia. In its simplest form, it's just adding furring strips over the house wrap before you put up the siding (though I've only done it with cedar, vinyl, and metal siding, can't comment on how it goes with stucco).
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 19:46
|
|
|
Horatius Bonar posted:That link is worth a click for sure. Looks like they built with OSB they pulled out of a swamp. jesus christ. Thanks for the grabs. Wtf, besides water, caused that.. like from where? Will try read the article later if I can. Link still hates me right now.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 19:56
|
|
|
 Lookit this little guy
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 20:02
|
|
|
schmug posted:jesus christ. Thanks for the grabs. Wtf, besides water, caused that.. like from where? Will try read the article later if I can. Link still hates me right now. That's just water, plus like mushroom and mold spores for colour. Standing water is super bad for OSB, it works it's way in and slowly shreds it apart by expanding the wood chips and then it flakes apart. It's hosed even if it dries out because the chips aren't stuck together anymore. Also the expansion causes more cracks in the exterior siding so it gets worse. It's water that mostly looks like it got in around the windows where there's any kind of gap. Because it had no where to drain or even evaporate it stayed and pooled, got behind the housewrap, and started eating at the OSB. If it had been built with a rainscreen, water still would have gotten in behind the siding, but then dripped down the house wrap to an exit at the bottom, or evaporated into the air gap before it would get behind the housewrap to that extent.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 20:12
|
|
|
My favorite thing from that article:quote:When the company issued a second denial, they went to arbitration. So Toll Bros won't sell you a house unless you agree to submit disputes to binding arbitration instead of suing them. Then the arbitrator rules against them, and they appeal it to the courts. I really want to read the Common Pleas decision to see if it says anything other than "OMGLOL no, you signed a contract with them agreeing to submit disputes to binding arbitration, live with it."
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 20:12
|
|
|
This is my favorite. I don't think you need the moisture probe to solve the mystery of that rotten rear end hunk of timber.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 20:15
|
|
|
Javid posted:This is my favorite. Top panel: "Dis guy tells me if wet things are wet." Bottom panel: "...METER SAYS IT'S WET!"
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 20:33
|
|
|
I'd imagine he has to document the level of moisture found in a formal report. 
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 20:55
|
|
|
Burt Sexual posted:I'd imagine he has to document the level of moisture found in a formal report. Moisture Level: VERY YES
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 21:04
|
|
|
schmug posted:anyone have a link to something other than: By request. http://archive.is/0rKgw
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 21:15
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 31, 2024 03:52 |
|
|
terrenblade posted:By request. awesome. Thanks.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 21:42
|
|