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Question! Do you notice some kind of pointy anatomical feature in the vent area of your otos? I saw it on one of mine and thought there was a tapeworm, but then googling it looks like a lot of otos have the same feature. I don't know if its like a breeding tube or what, there simply aren't enough fish bum pictures of otos online  of the two I saw, one person from 6 years ago was wondering if it was a worm and got no answer, and the other was posted without comment as if nothing was wrong. Any thoughts? I haven't kept them for long enough to have got enough decent looks at them on the glass to know.
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Jan 26, 2019 14:16
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Hm, can't say I've been looking for that - I usually only see them when I'm doing a water change, but I'll keep my eyes open. I'm guessing it's fine.
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Stoca Zola posted:Question! Do you notice some kind of pointy anatomical feature in the vent area of your otos? I saw it on one of mine and thought there was a tapeworm, but then googling it looks like a lot of otos have the same feature. I don't know if its like a breeding tube or what, there simply aren't enough fish bum pictures of otos online Otocinclus have dorsal and pectoral spines. Is this maybe what you're seeing? The anal fin can have a darker edge to it as well. Zaffy fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Jan 26, 2019 |
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Jan 26, 2019 18:21
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What I've seen was coming right out of the vent hole, I'll add a pic, not my image but very close to what I saw. http://s3.amazonaws.com/shrimpspotmedia/monthly_05_2015/post-78-0-81260700-1432050785.jpg http://www.otocinclus.com/images/zebtall.jpg
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Finally decided on what to put in my 90g, went back to the well and picked up a pair of oscars today! I know they are super common and basic, but I can't get enough of those dudes. This will be my first time keeping a pair. Say hello to Suh and Donald:  jThey're gonna be living with a couple of cuckoo catfish, a gold nugget pleco and a bushy nose pleco.
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Jan 27, 2019 23:07
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Enos Cabell posted:I know they are super common and basic
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Jan 28, 2019 10:06
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Hey Mozi, I finally came across someone selling luminatus rainbows here. $55/ pair or 4 pairs $200, holy crap! That's probably the most expensive fish I've seen, not counting champion bettas or denison barbs (which were going for $120 a pop at one stage). No, I remember now, someone is selling a lungfish for a couple of thousand but that is so specialised I don't think it counts either. I think I'll be sticking to $6 cyanodorsalis rainbows if I ever get room for some pseudomugils. Well, even at that price it looks like all of the luminatus were sold within an hour so I would have missed out even if I wanted some. Enos I agree, pick and keep the fish that make you happy and the fish snobs can get lost. I think your tank sounds like it will be a good mix of characters 
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Jan 28, 2019 10:56
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Heh, thanks you two. I know it's a dumb thing to care about, it's just funny when the fish you are debating between are a $200 flowerhorn and a couple of $10 oscars. They are the fish that first attracted me to the hobby when I was 10, back into the hobby in my 20s, and after 5 years without keeping one I was really missing it. Can already tell it was the right decision, forgot how fun it was to have fish that are 100% focused on you when you are in the room. They're already eating pellets out of my fingers.
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Jan 28, 2019 14:22
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My shrimp come up shyly and take algae wafer pieces from my aquascaping forceps so I get it.
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Enos Cabell posted:Heh, thanks you two. I know it's a dumb thing to care about, it's just funny when the fish you are debating between are a $200 flowerhorn and a couple of $10 oscars. They are the fish that first attracted me to the hobby when I was 10, back into the hobby in my 20s, and after 5 years without keeping one I was really missing it. yeah, it’s cool when you have fish you love to take care of, doesn’t matter what it is. I think your oscars look really beautiful regardless. Like, my wife bought some gorgeous discus that also like to come eat from the pipette but I get the biggest kick out of the little panda garra that attaches himself to my hand immediately whenever it enters the tank. Seriously, it’s adorable and a bit annoying trying to trim plants and I can’t even shoo him away. He just moves to a different part of my hand and removing my hand from the water is the only thing that works (even then he tries to hang on) 
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Stoca Zola posted:Hey Mozi, I finally came across someone selling luminatus rainbows here. $55/ pair or 4 pairs $200, holy crap! Yikes! I'm seeing them for 9/55$ here - definitely would consider something else if it were that much, yeah. Orrrr... if you bred them and sold them, you could make a sure fortune...
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Jan 29, 2019 01:39
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Anyone know a good source for a bunch of aquarium safe wood? After some research, I'm going to check with my local florists and taxidermy shop for manzanita. Was hoping someone had other suggestions. I feel like there are so many cheap alternatives to what they sell in the pet store. Like blasting sand for 1/5 the price of aquarium sand. Bulk filter media. That sort of stuff. There's got to be a cheaper way to get nice aquarium wood. I'd love to just gather some... but I live in the inland northwest, so the vast majority of the local driftwood is going to be pine and fir.
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Jan 29, 2019 08:09
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Big pieces can be tricky but you can get branch wood for free after a wind storm. Dead wood is easier to process than green wood, and a good wind storm will knock down the dead branches. This step is a little easier in the summer when you can use the leaves to help you identify the type of wood. http://injaf.org/articles-guides/general-guides/guide-to-aquarium-wood/ quote:Safe woods for use in an aquarium Boil the hell out of it and simmer for hours over a couple days if you have a big enough pot. Otherwise soaking it in a tub for a few weeks can work too. Boiling it makes it much easier to pull off the bark, that gives it the driftwood look and also gets rid of any airborne pollutants on the wood. Boiling also helps get out any VOCs, sugars, and oils, and saturate the wood so it will sink. Some people prefer to let the dead wood age outdoors for a year first. This also helps clear any volatile organic compounds, sugar and oil in the wood. You'll still have to soak it for a while to get it waterlogged enough to sink though.
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Jan 29, 2019 09:16
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Driftwood was cheap relative to other aspects of the hobby... And the assortment at the aquarium shop was great.
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Jan 29, 2019 17:22
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Ordering a canister for a 15g Betta tank. Eheim 2211 or 2213? Too much flow?
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Jan 29, 2019 21:19
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I also would like a filter recommendation for a 5g tank. I have stagnant areas with my current filter.
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Jan 29, 2019 22:53
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I tend to prefer sponge filters for smaller tanks. Maybe supplement with an AquaClear for fish that like more water movement.
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Jan 29, 2019 23:00
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Specifically running a canister to bury the filter below in a cabinet away from kids.
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Jan 29, 2019 23:55
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So, I haven't had the stock filter running for a few weeks now. I've been planning on ripping it out, but haven't had the time yet. Today, I decided to look inside to see what condition the water was in. It should have mostly been fine, since the water is still connected to the rest of the tank, but I noticed some oily-like(?) substance would hang on the surface and spill into the tank if I raised the water level high enough. I didn't expect what I saw inside there though. Moving around inside the stock filter was this little goldfish, barely even a centimeter and a half? Maybe less. I set up a small tank and used water from the 350 litre to help start it off, but I ended up discovering two more, much younger fry. Like, they look as if they're a day or two old at best, maybe? So, the three of them are now enjoying a new tank as opposed to he dark, lightless and rather dirty looking space they occupied before. This is my first time with fry so let's hope I don't mess it up. I'd feel really bad. The tank is sitting on my computer desk for now. I can keep a close eye on them that way. Of course, I'll be feeding them three times a day, but I'm hoping to hit the shops tomorrow so I can pick up food for them. At the moment they're on extremely crushed up flakes.
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Yayyy! Baby fish! I bet they were eating filter gunk starting out, it's pretty much guaranteed to have infusoria in it, which is an ideal first food for baby fish when they are super tiny. Filter sponge squeezings might be a good supplement for the ground up food, another one is to boil an egg to hard boiled, and crumble up tiny bits of yolk. But it doesn't matter, if you're buying food most powdered fry food is good and the big guy probably doesn't need it by now. The big challenge I find when raising baby fish is finding the balance between frequent feedings that the fish can actually find, and cleaning up old uneaten food and doing enough water changes to keep them healthy. They get on better with small changes every couple of days I think. Stoca Zola fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Jan 30, 2019 |
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I'm planning on expanding my live food experiments from just brine shrimp in preparation of my new fishies (having a warm couple of days coming up so it looks like I can get them shipped sooner than I had thought.) I've ordered a standard 15 gallon aquarium and some 1/4" acrylic sheets - I plan to divide it into thirds, for three 5 gallon spaces. Two of them will have daphina cultures (as I've read you want to have a backup going for when one crashes) and the other will have infusoria, I think. From what I've read it seems pretty straightforward to culture these guys. Also speaking of baby fish I have one baby salt and pepper cory that is growing super fast. I've been seeing the adults doing their little dance a bunch so hopefully some other eggs can avoid being eaten before they hatch, which is what I'm thinking is happening to all the others. Oh, did have a question about daphnia - people say you can feed them yeast mixed with water, and I happen to have a sourdough starter going. So I can probably just feed them bits of that? (Small bit dissolved into water, then fed w/ that water) Mozi fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Jan 30, 2019 |
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I think they'll eat yeast, brine shrimp definitely will. But daphnia are pretty voracious, and I wonder if they'd get everything they need nutritionally out of it? Do you have a jar and a lamp that you could run 24/7 and try to get some greenwater going? Infusoria would eat that as well (and the yeast too). I think of it like gutloading crickets for lizard/frog food, make sure they're eating a nice balanced diet and then that adds nutritional value for the predator that will eventually eat them. Feed them junk and the nutritional value goes down. Anyway I tried culturing daphnia and I just couldn't keep up with feeding them  hope you have better luck than me!
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Jan 30, 2019 16:42
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Hah, well, we'll see. I'm sure it will be a learning experience! I've read online that yeast and flour are an acceptable substitute for green water, but I'd probably try to get some of that going as well. If I don't fail completely I'll probably end up with way way too much food per fish.
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Okay, turns out Etsy sells bulk driftwood, cholla, and manzanita for pretty reasonable prices. Going to try my luck with that, then pick up wood from the park by my house to age.
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A day has past and they're still alive (as you'd hope after only a day). I was worried the fry weren't going to eat, but my parents actually picked up that powdered feed for me while I was at work. They didn't seem interested in the egg, though honestly even dropping it near them I wasn't sure if they'd noticed, but the powdered stuff did the trick. They're happy to munch away at it. The older one was happy to eat the egg and its own larger flakes. Everything seems good so far. Going to do a small water change tomorrow and I'll keep that up every two days. Basically none of the equipment I have seems safe enough though. The fry slipped through some hatchery net I bought just in case this happened, and they're definitely small enough to get sucked into even the 30 litre filter. The only air pumps I had was for the larger tanks and even its lowest setting seems too much, so I've ordered a new, lower-end pump for the tank. Leaving it unfiltered with no aeration has me on edge but I wasn't really prepared or expecting this anytime soon. I'm probably worrying too much though, given that they were in an abandoned stock filter with still, dirty water. Either way, the sooner I can get that pump the better.
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Jan 30, 2019 23:57
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Do you have a prefilter sponge on the intake of your filter? It'll stop them from getting sucked up
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You can tame overly strong air pumps with valves or splitters on the air lines. But I'm sure they'll be alright without anything for a little while, when they are small their oxygen requirements and waste production capacity are so tiny to be almost insignificant and their greatest threat is uneaten food which can foul their water, so water changes can fix that. It'll be better for them in the long term to have something though because they will grow pretty fast I think.
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w00tmonger posted:Do you have a prefilter sponge on the intake of your filter? It'll stop them from getting sucked up I do. It still seemed like they weren't able to beat the pull towards the filter though, but maybe I'm being overly cautious? Stoca Zola posted:You can tame overly strong air pumps with valves or splitters on the air lines. But I'm sure they'll be alright without anything for a little while, when they are small their oxygen requirements and waste production capacity are so tiny to be almost insignificant and their greatest threat is uneaten food which can foul their water, so water changes can fix that. It'll be better for them in the long term to have something though because they will grow pretty fast I think. Yeah, this is basically either for the next day or two for the pump to arrive. Tempted to see if I can squeeze time at lunch to grab one tomorrow though. I very much feel like the sooner it's there, the better.
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Do air lines really generate that much local current?
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Can you pet fish?
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BONGHITZ posted:Can you pet fish? Some, BONGHITZ, some...
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VelociBacon posted:Do air lines really generate that much local current? They can make a ton of lift, then at the surface that flow spreads in all directions and then when it hits the sides of the tank it'll go down the glass. You can get a lot of circular current that way. Of course usually you don't run the air that fast but without valves it can really blow quite strongly.
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BONGHITZ posted:Can you pet fish? My black moor look so soft and velvety I will forever be tempted...
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BONGHITZ posted:Can you pet fish? One of our goldfish used to rub rub herself through our hands. Only one of the six liked it though (and nowadays she doesn't really care but isn't fussed when you accidentally brush past her or something). e: Conversely two of them take their personal space very seriously and would rather approach than be approached.
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Jan 31, 2019 09:20
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This isn't what I was looking for, but it's close enough
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is there any downside for putting my air-filters on a timer? there is other filtration and i would like to get some sleep (tanks are in my bedroom)
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I can't imagine that would cause any problems.
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big dong wanter posted:is there any downside for putting my air-filters on a timer? there is other filtration and i would like to get some sleep (tanks are in my bedroom) Stuff crawling inside and getting blown around when it turns on again? I know this is a thing with powerheads
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I don't know, but I've put my wavemaker on the same timer as my lights, the fish seem to like getting some sleep too. I think the sponges won't lose too much bacteria, a lot of people "cycle" their sponge filters by just having a loose pile of them in a sump, not with air running etc. So it's probably fine, they'll still get some amount of flow from general tank water movement. If your filter is loud, not the bubbles themselves, wonder if you could damp the sound with putting the air pump in an old icecream container or shoebox stuffed with sponge or similar?
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