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Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
It was the patient, cut-flower sound of clicking the wrong browser tab.

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ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
Listening to the second book on audible is a goddamn chore. Started skipping chapters and its basically this:

Feluri-

When Felu-

We spent the night, Fel-

After Felur-

I have so many complaints about this book, but it's not even worth the effort to write them down. I don't think I'm going to finish this drat book. I could just read The Book of the New Sun for the 3rd time instead.

vaginite
Feb 8, 2006

I'm comin' for you, colonel.



e: wrong thread

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy

Olesh posted:

No. It's very clear that Rothfuss's primary focus is running his charity that fundraises for other charities. The books gave him a certain amount of public recognition, and he's parleying that into exposure for the charity.

I think you mean podcast appearances and tangential kickstarters right?

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
What pisses me off the most about this series:

When I read the blurb about this legendary dude who did all this crazy poo poo, I thought, 'Gee, it's going to be interesting to see how a masterful bullshit artist managed to get himself in so many situations and end up looking like a hero instead of the coniving psycopath he probably is. Does he use illusion magic? Poison? Does he play political games?' Like how cool would it be to see the equivalent of an immoral Gnome Illusionist fool the world in to thinking he's the most powerful man in the world?

Oh no, never mind, he is just the best and smartest and strongest and fuckingest and goodest good boy who ever lived. That's how he did it.

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

ElGroucho posted:

Oh no, never mind, he is just the best and smartest and strongest and fuckingest and goodest good boy who ever lived. That's how he did it.

I suppose there's always the chance that it ends like the Usual Suspects.

Tree Dude
May 26, 2012

AND MY SONG IS...
Even after a 2ish hour movie my response to The Usual Suspects was "okay that was kinda cool but I guess the rest of the movie was pointless?" I think people would be pretty annoyed if after 40 years and 3 books there was a twist anything like that.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

ElGroucho posted:

Listening to the second book on audible is a goddamn chore. Started skipping chapters and its basically this:

Feluri-

When Felu-

We spent the night, Fel-

After Felur-

I have so many complaints about this book, but it's not even worth the effort to write them down. I don't think I'm going to finish this drat book. I could just read The Book of the New Sun for the 3rd time instead.

Just post! It's worth the effort 'cuz we will enjoy it.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Tree Dude posted:

Even after a 2ish hour movie my response to The Usual Suspects was "okay that was kinda cool but I guess the rest of the movie was pointless?" I think people would be pretty annoyed if after 40 years and 3 books there was a twist anything like that.

Right. The Usual Suspects at least has interesting characters and situations leading up to the twist so you're entertained before finding out it was a con. You're then left wondering how much was true and how much was bullshit and that can lead to some interesting conversation and debate.

Kingkiller is agonizing to read and it's pure masochism trying to get to that ending.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

line manual miranda is gonna turn Kingkiller into a tv show and make Rothfuss millions so yeah its true that he will never write a book again. its a victory I will take.

PJOmega
May 5, 2009
On the subject of lovely, overhyped books I finished "The Passage" about twenty minutes ago and I think I would have preferred to reread NotW. And I really don't want to reread NotW.

Punished Chuck
Dec 27, 2010

PJOmega posted:

On the subject of lovely, overhyped books I finished "The Passage" about twenty minutes ago and I think I would have preferred to reread NotW. And I really don't want to reread NotW.

That’s the only book in my life that I’ve ever just given up on because of how loving bad it was. I’ve got some horrible brain disease that compels me to always read a book I’ve started to the end no matter how bad it is, but I just could not make it through The Passage.

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Tree Dude posted:

Even after a 2ish hour movie my response to The Usual Suspects was "okay that was kinda cool but I guess the rest of the movie was pointless?" I think people would be pretty annoyed if after 40 years and 3 books there was a twist anything like that.

Sure it would be like ending it - and the phone rang and he woke up from his dream. But at least it would be better than Kvothe is the best at everything. Would've been quite interesting if there were two parallel stories where Kvothe is pretty much an incompetent failure at everything except music, but he gets to tell the story so he constantly lies. But of course, it isn't that.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

pseudanonymous posted:

Sure it would be like ending it - and the phone rang and he woke up from his dream. But at least it would be better than Kvothe is the best at everything. Would've been quite interesting if there were two parallel stories where Kvothe is pretty much an incompetent failure at everything except music, but he gets to tell the story so he constantly lies. But of course, it isn't that.

You'd almost have to write that Mark Danielski style where if you read the book one direction it's Kvothe being the best at everything and if you read it from the other it's another character watching this guy make a fool of himself.

But that would require at least a little bit of talent.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
The third book is just the first two but re-punctuated like that "Dear John" letter.

PJOmega
May 5, 2009

Chuck Buried Treasure posted:

That’s the only book in my life that I’ve ever just given up on because of how loving bad it was. I’ve got some horrible brain disease that compels me to always read a book I’ve started to the end no matter how bad it is, but I just could not make it through The Passage.

The idea that there's 2 more books of this pondering, pandering iceberg of a novel is astonishing. The first 250ish pages are alright, and then it drags like nothing I've read before.

This thing was considered to be a beach read thriller and the rights sold for 4.7 million dollars. It's insane to me.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
lol at the idea that denise or whatever her name is some high class escort who DOES NOT gently caress

It's like yo man, we're all adults here, you gotta do what you gotta do to get by in this world. Probably more honorable than using some dead guys corpse as a voodoo doll to ambush a bunch of (maybe) bandits.

MartingaleJack
Aug 26, 2004

I'll split you open and I don't even like coconuts.

PJOmega posted:

The idea that there's 2 more books of this pondering, pandering iceberg of a novel is astonishing. The first 250ish pages are alright, and then it drags like nothing I've read before.

This thing was considered to be a beach read thriller and the rights sold for 4.7 million dollars. It's insane to me.

The Passage is a really bad novel that got hype because the author wrote literary before throwing his hat into the vampire/zombie/post-apocalyptic wasteland of popular fiction. Problem is, he didn't do anything unique--it's all just regurgitated tropes and characters written in a mildly competent manner. It's so long and unfulfilling because the story doesnt make any promises or have any stakes--it's just a series of events that occur over time to humanity and an uninspired extrapolation of their consequences seen through the lenses of a cast of impotent and uninteresting characters that are mostly caricatures ripped from Stephen King books.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
What this series has taught me is:

- Never trust goodreads recommendations
- Never trust audible recommendations
- Never trust Amazon recommendations
- Only trust misanthropic goons

Benson Cunningham
Dec 9, 2006

Chief of J.U.N.K.E.R. H.Q.
Goodhart's law, man. Recommendations on high profile sites are really difficult to trust.

The most a good review guarantees is just that the item will likely not be DOA.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
I don't know about you guys, I 100% trust an algorithm engineered to sell the most poo poo to the most people as fast as possible.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

Sham bam bamina! posted:

I don't know about you guys, I 100% trust an algorithm engineered to sell the most poo poo to the most people as fast as possible.

Goodreads recommended I am Legion (I am Bob), and I will never forgive it for that.

ed: excuse me, "We are Legion, (We are Bob)", still a lovely pop culture reference sci fi garbage turd of a book

porfiria
Dec 10, 2008

by Modern Video Games

Sham bam bamina! posted:

I don't know about you guys, I 100% trust an algorithm engineered to sell the most poo poo to the most people as fast as possible.

Even if this weren't the case, people on average have terrible taste and they have super terrible taste in books.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

porfiria posted:

Even if this weren't the case, people on average have terrible taste and they have super terrible taste in books.
I figured that was an implicit assumption in my post. Such an algorithm wouldn't be bad if good books were more profitably popular than bad ones.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

goodreads automatic recs are based on stuff you read, if you read a bunch of like european modernism on there then it will recommend you more stuff like that. its not always very useful but you won't get young adult fiction or whatever showing up unless you read that kind of stuff.

pikachode
Jan 21, 2019

by R. Guyovich
yo ho ho it's me, your chum, roddy potluck. once upon a time i crossed a dewy glen and there in the raw and silent sunshine i came across a winsome slut

Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

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College Slice

A human heart posted:

goodreads automatic recs are based on stuff you read, if you read a bunch of like european modernism on there then it will recommend you more stuff like that. its not always very useful but you won't get young adult fiction or whatever showing up unless you read that kind of stuff.

Not true - sometimes it just wigs the gently caress out. I remember it recommending this 2nd grade fantasy book because I read this really violent sci-fi novel. Still don't know what weird tagging/algorithmic fluke caused that one.

Hammer Bro.
Jul 7, 2007

THUNDERDOME LOSER

ElGroucho posted:

What this series has taught me is:

- Never trust goodreads recommendations
- Never trust audible recommendations
- Never trust Amazon recommendations
- Only trust misanthropic goons

I've said it before and I'll say it again -- don't listen to the people who like what you like. Find the people who hate what you hate.

That's how to discover new stuff you'll like.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Hammer Bro. posted:

I've said it before and I'll say it again -- don't listen to the people who like what you like. Find the people who hate what you hate.

That's how to discover new stuff you'll like.

"What do you hate? By this you are truly known" - Duke Leto Atreides

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
Rothfuss's prose is genuinely engaging, I think I was way too harsh on it before.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
He's got talent, but he's fallen in love with his writing, and his editor is out to lunch.

pikachode
Jan 21, 2019

by R. Guyovich

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Rothfuss's prose is genuinely engaging
only the parts that make him tumescent irl

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Rothfuss's prose is genuinely engaging, I think I was way too harsh on it before.
What did they do to you in there?

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
I love Rothfuss's detailed world-building.

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Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
I know this is for your mod challenge, but it's seriously unnerving.

pikachode
Jan 21, 2019

by R. Guyovich
they took our boy

porfiria
Dec 10, 2008

by Modern Video Games

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Rothfuss's prose is genuinely engaging, I think I was way too harsh on it before.

Jesus I thought you were bad before the re-Neducation camp...

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
It was a bliss in three parts.

pikachode
Jan 21, 2019

by R. Guyovich
did you at any point in the text become aroused

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BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
Yes :)

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