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Smoke
Mar 12, 2005

I am NOT a red Bumblebee for god's sake!

Gun Saliva
If you want some purestrain crapbuild there's always this majestic bird from everyone's favorite manufacturer MisterCraft/Mastercraft:

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/mistercraft-040356-f-16-thunderbirds--210955

I've built it. The decals fractured the moment they touched water and had sizing and alignment issues, the parts themselves were warped or just didn't fully match, and the instructions are incomplete as they mention decals that aren't even on the sheet, along with actual missing parts on the sprues that show up in the instructions. I put enough effort in there to scratch-build the instrument panel and put in a stick from an F/A-18 from my spare parts box, as those parts weren't even present.



Compare this to Revell's F-16 in the same scale (just look at the exhaust):



It's even available with those decals, and I'm fairly sure they're a straight knockoff of the Revell decals:

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/mastercraft-d-03-f-16a-block-5-spitfire-falcon--163509

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Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

I'm broadly in favour of craptank over crapplane, but that's because I have 2 planes in the works already so I don't want to overload on them. Also I like the F16 and doing a bad one would hurt me on the inside.

big_g
Sep 24, 2004

Our young men will have to shoot down their young men at the rate of four to one, if we're to keep pace at all.
CRAP TANK! FROM AUG 2015!


It was decided to buy the Airfix 1:72 IS-3 tank kit. This kit is not without it's problems as it was designed by someone who had never seen the tank expect for one photograph, as Pierzak found out.

Pierzak posted:

I have that too. I accidentally shaved down the nub that's supposed to help with barrel orientation because it had a major mold shift.
And the gas cans are horrible. One side empty, the other has random holes or weird black poo poo on it, and again, mold shift in the middle.

Other attractions:
- mold feeds for tracks are in the recesses :wtc:
- a huge mold feed(?) on the side of the machine gun
- part numbers on the outside of the undercarriage, because why place it on the otherside
- the barrel was already mentioned (drill your barrels! :vomarine:), but is mounted off-center.

Basically, the poster who suggested this kit can go sit on a cactus :argh:

So Ladies and Gentlemen I am cross posting here for your judgement! The winner gets to pick the next monstrosity of a model for us all to do!

In no particular order I present to you....Crap Tank!


The Locator posted:

I think I'm done with craptank for now. Reasonably happy with it given that it's my first plastic model in 30 years, but it certainly has some issues and things I would do different if I could start over.









Troll Bridgington posted:

Okay. NOW I'm calling it done with this tank. Added some rust, some burnt umber washes, the decals, and a matt coat. Bonus pictures of babby tank's older brother model in the background.






Ensign Expendable posted:

Introducing Joseph "Get rich or kill those trying" $talin and his trusty wingman Lavrentiy Party-vich Beriya!



Featuring chrome-lined barrel (from the outside)



Senior party members only.



Blue Footed Booby posted:

here's craptank anyway.





big_g posted:

I'm not sure what I'm doing.








Warmachine posted:

Craptank has been sitting like this for roughly two weeks now, since I've had poo poo for time. I did carve out the muzzle break. I also stuck modeling putty in the tracks and called it close enough. Seriously gently caress vinyl. Not sure if I'll do a camo, or if I'll take the lazy tank crew option and just detail and weather it.

Ahahahaha we all know the answer here. gently caress this tank.



Nebakenezzer posted:

So somebody described craptank as a child's rendering of a IS-3. So that gave me an idea.



I painted it white, then used coloring pencils. I tried crayon, but the results were not too good.



I painted the tracks white too, but then all the paint just flaked off so I said gently caress it



Also used a pencil to highlight details and do the machine gun.



headcas3 posted:

My craptank finally showed up but I don't have part 51. I see the space for it on the sprue but it's not there or in the box


lilljonas posted:

Crappy soviet tank project? No problem, just need a soundtrack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HUWUtTZvK4

Anyway, craptank was my first attempt at (excessive) hair spray chipping. Well, it didn't go perfectly, though it looks a bit better in person than on the photos. At least now I got a feel to the method, and know what to do when I'll try it on a serious kit next time. At least it was a ton of fun to scratch the hell out of it with dental tools and a broken off piece of bamboo skewer.





We will bury them!

Unkempt posted:

Well, we all know what this is:



I see two problems here:
- that gun is clearly too small
- all those tiny little wheels.


So:

And:

A bit of surgery:

Getting there:


Here we go!

ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM

STRAIGHT DOWN THE AUTOBAHN TO BLOW HITLER'S loving FACE RIGHT OFF

YEAH
Job done.

Arquinsiel posted:

Craptank pictures! I went in a different direction to most of you and decided to paint this as a tank I might actually get some wargames use out of at some point, so I present to you: Uncie Joe's Egyptian summer holiday '67!:





That says exactly what you'd think it says (probably).

ETA: the green chips are because the Russians shipped the IS3-Ms they sold to Egypt painted, and the Egyptians sort of lazily painted over that and in the field it all flaked off and resulted in a mottled mess.

Sanguine posted:

So, with the crappiness of crap tank I though 'why waste paint?' Also the discussion a bit back about instructions for painting tanks using grass in fuel got me thinking, so.. why not paint it with grass?

First step was trying some grass in pet spirits - but no dice. It's not strong enough to lyse the cells, so the grass will need to be ground up.

As a trial I used a couple of sanding sticks to mill the grass.


Looks promising, but after trying it on the tank it left bugger all colour and took ages to dry. When it was dry another coat just tore off the old one, so back to the drawing board.

So, plan B involved methylated spirits and a mortar and pestle.


Looking good, but lumpy. So using a handy old-sock filter:


I got about 10 ml of the 'paint'.


I put it through an airbrush without too many blockages, and about 15 to 20 coats later I decided 'gently caress it, that'll do'.




So there ya go, a genuine grass-coloured vaguely IS-3 shaped tank.

Molentik
Apr 30, 2013

What about those cartoony tanks from Meng? They are quite cheap and look fun to build.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Just googled that. The "toon tanks" somehow manage to make the Sherman and KV2 even more ridiculous looking. They look fun.

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

I've got the sherman on my shelf, it's good.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

The pinky variants look amusing too. Santa Sherman, the pink Sherman with cats, the Kodiak bear KV 2. Heh.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
IIRC it's a five part kit. Not much to do there at all.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Ug, eat a bag of dicks photobucket









I'm making a new gundam and these things are still nifty

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye


There are some really tiny 1/1200 battleships, I remember building the snaptite New Jersey when I was a boy

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

PS craptank suggestion: that Trumpeter Sherman I built with the gap in the vinyl tracks

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

It's a mile and a half outside the normal interest range of this group, mildly skeevy, and maybe a little too pricy, but part of me wants to see what bizarre kit bashes would come out of group building this.

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


Blue Footed Booby posted:

It's a mile and a half outside the normal interest range of this group, mildly skeevy, and maybe a little too pricy, but part of me wants to see what bizarre kit bashes would come out of group building this.

You know what we could do? Set a price point for a kit, say $20. Everyone picks a sprue from their kit and forwards it to another builder. You build what you can from what you have left, plus that sprue coming from someplace else.

Fearless fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Feb 1, 2019

Southern Heel
Jul 2, 2004

So just so I'm not being an idiot - I've got a scale model car kit (Fujimi Countach 5000) and it looks like it's getting painted as it gets assembled, right? If that's the case. how do I know when to paint a given assembly or subassembly?

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

I just did a test fit of the cockpit in the P47. Lol, the fit is appalling. It's abundantly clear the fuselage is twisted. Also the instrument panel sits in a huge gap, you can see down into the front of the fuselage behind the engine. I thought I was missing a part, the gap is so big but nope, that's by design. I have no idea why, but it is. Also because of the curvature of the fuselage, most of the detail I painted into the cockpit isn't going to be visible anyway. I'm sure I'm not doing this 100% correctly, but even a novice like me can tell this kit is pretty lacking. Test fitting the wings suggests they got that mostly right, but I expect to be doing a lot of putty filling on the join. I'm looking forward to the Tamiya kit for comparison. That said, overcoming the weaknesses in this kit is a good learning opportunity.

Edit:

I went back and had a look at the Tamiya sprues and instructions for my Zero now that I've actually started to put the P47 together and my god the quality difference is astounding. It's not even close. Even just from the instructions alone you can see how much "more" is in the Tamiya kit and more sensibility designed too. I have a bunch of aftermarket resin parts for it, but I'm not even sure I want to use them now. My only real complaint is the lack of cockpit instrument decal, and that's easily solved.

Carth Dookie fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Feb 1, 2019

Dr. Garbanzo
Sep 14, 2010

Southern Heel posted:

So just so I'm not being an idiot - I've got a scale model car kit (Fujimi Countach 5000) and it looks like it's getting painted as it gets assembled, right? If that's the case. how do I know when to paint a given assembly or subassembly?

In doing all of my cars I’ll generally try to paint sub assemblies while they’re still accessible so I’ll do the dash, seats and door cards separate to the rest of the cabin and assemble after. In my current miura I painted the hand brake and the rest of the components as separate units to make it easier.
At the same time I’ve got various bits of the chassis assembled because it’s not vital they’re separate as components before painting takes place.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Southern Heel posted:

So just so I'm not being an idiot - I've got a scale model car kit (Fujimi Countach 5000) and it looks like it's getting painted as it gets assembled, right? If that's the case. how do I know when to paint a given assembly or subassembly?

Planning and experience, basically. Motor and seats get painted as sub-assemblies, tub gets painted before motor and seats go in, make sure everything is good before you attach the body.

I've noticed I completely ignore step order now when I'm building models, because I can paint and mask wheel wells (on planes) easier if I leave the landing gear for last, for instance.

Youtube videos can be helpful too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_kfqTX62Vc

Smoke
Mar 12, 2005

I am NOT a red Bumblebee for god's sake!

Gun Saliva

Smoke posted:

I'm in Europe so that helps a bit. Revell referred me to the seller so I'll be mailing them about it as I'm in Bulgaria and the kit was bought in Belgium. Worst case scenario I'm out 5 euros.

Update: The store I bought it from only accepts returns in person with the proof of purchase within 14 days of purchase, along with undamaged packaging to even consider taking any action. I could send the box to my in-laws and hope they kept the proof of purchase that I left there but that'd cost more than 5 euros.

Guess I'll just hunt for a heavily-discounted kit at a local store then, or hope I can find the same one for about as cheap or cheaper.

EDIT: For all of the cars I built most of them got their parts painted before assembly (with small parts still on the sprue) or right after assembling parts that all had one uniform color. In some cases I even just go through the entire kit pre-painting all the parts that need to be the same color to save time. I also no longer follow the step order in instructions because it's so much easier to leave the tiny detailing bits for last and at least have some safe grip on the larger model.

Smoke fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Feb 1, 2019

George Zimmer
Jun 28, 2008
Anyone keeping tabs on the Nuremberg International Toy Fair? Some extremely good poo poo has been announced for the model car world (photos from SpotModel’s Facebook page):





Haven’t seen anything eye popping from the AFV/plane/naval/misc side, but I’m sure there’s some good stuff.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

Jonny Nox posted:

...

I've noticed I completely ignore step order now when I'm building models, because I can paint and mask wheel wells (on planes) easier if I leave the landing gear for last, for instance.

Youtube videos can be helpful too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_kfqTX62Vc

I check off parts on the instructions as I attach them. Ditto for sub assemblies. It makes it easier to go from "what is this leftover piece" to "where does it go." ADHD makes me skip stuff regardless, so I might as well plan around it.

Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

I'll Fetch My Sarcasm Robes
Wanted to take a break from all the Warhammer figures I've been painting so I put together the Bandai Resistance X-Wing kit.





Got some decals from a few different kits to give it a paint job like a WWII fighter during the Normandy invasion. Really happy with how it turned out.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
That looks pretty drat badass. I should do a Battle of Britain X-wing now.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Nice one.

WIP of the P-47. Looks like a real plane now. Decided against detailing the cockpit any further since it will be barely visible. Check out the fit though. :laffo:









Note the off centre seat and great yawning chasm between the fuselage and instrument panel. Academy kit. :thumbsup: so far. Looking forward to decals.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Just primed the majority of the P-47 parts using Mr Surface primer 1500 black. It goes on beautifully but my god does that lacquer poo poo go everywhere. My ghetto spray booth was just barely adequate. I wore a mask that filtered out the lacquer from the air and good thing too. Don't want to think about what that would do to my lungs. My only regret is not priming everything because I really don't fancy having to do it again for the other parts. Definitely more hassle than the Tamiya acrylics. Hopefully worth it in the end.

Symetrique
Jan 2, 2013




Bucnasti posted:

Wanted to take a break from all the Warhammer figures I've been painting so I put together the Bandai Resistance X-Wing kit.


Got some decals from a few different kits to give it a paint job like a WWII fighter during the Normandy invasion. Really happy with how it turned out.

It's so nice to see an allied scheme on a sci fi kit. I've seen way too many AT-STs with iron crosses. Nice job!

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Chrome silver main colour went on quite well. I think the metallic flake particles are somewhat large as I had to have the needle stopper set quite far back and had to use fairly high pressure to get it to spray, but once it got going, it was fine. I definitely learned that you need to do twice as much sanding and prep work as you think you do, and to be super careful rescribing panel lines as any imperfections show up like the proverbial dogs balls. Even so, I feel my clumsy airbrushing still looks better than my clumsy hand painting.

Granite Octopus
Jun 24, 2008

I'm super pissed. I spent ages getting a reasonable gloss coat on this body, airbrushing with tamiya gloss clear acrylic. There was still heaps of orange peel but it was at a point where I was happy.

It had cured for a day, then I masked up the body with tamiya masking tape, so I could paint the window trim. When I took the masking tape off, I think it has taken the gloss coat with it.



What could I have done to prevent this from happening?

The trim was painted with flat black but I think ill just sand back the main body a bit and hit it with gloss all over again.

Here is the rest of the tub so this isn't just whinging:




Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
i had a similar problem with tamiya tape recently as well. try reducing its tackiness by stick the tape to things before putting it on the model but i think i ended up having to use silly putty as a mask

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Molentik posted:

What about those cartoony tanks from Meng? They are quite cheap and look fun to build.

I did the KV-2 to go with my other KV-2 stuff. It was a fun little kit and had more parts than I expected. But everything fit well

Bucnasti posted:

Wanted to take a break from all the Warhammer figures I've been painting so I put together the Bandai Resistance X-Wing kit.





Got some decals from a few different kits to give it a paint job like a WWII fighter during the Normandy invasion. Really happy with how it turned out.

This fuckin' rocks!

SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Feb 4, 2019

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
Got into a good groove with the Mark V after leaving it on the bench for far too long. Wrapping up the sponsons now.





There's a rubber washer you put into the gun pedestals so they can rotate freely, but the mount is *incredibly* flimsy. The gun just shakes around back and forth, it's like the nub in the bottom is about half as long as it should be. Very disappointing, I might just end up gluing the guns in place. I also have a feeling that the round mantlets deformed in storage, since they don't fit snugly into the sponson arcs.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Ensign Expendable posted:

I might just end up gluing the guns in place.

If it was my model this is what I would do, actually even if it worked properly I suspect I would.

Also great work as always.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

So, my dad surprised me one evening when he said he was thinking of getting a model Spitfire. After some discussing of options, it sounds like he's settled on a 1/48 plastic model kit with me providing the labor and him buying the kit + materials.

So, who makes a good 1/48 Spitfire? Tamiya is my gut instinct

e: vvvv ohhh, good point

Nebakenezzer fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Feb 4, 2019

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Nebakenezzer posted:

So, my dad surprised me one evening when he said he was thinking of getting a model Spitfire. After some discussing of options, it sounds like he's settled on a 1/48 plastic model kit with me providing the labor and him buying the kit + materials.

So, who makes a good 1/48 Spitfire? Tamiya is my gut instinct

Don't forget to look at Eduard Profipacks. Pack-in photo-etch and masks + nice plastic make an appealing package.

Symetrique
Jan 2, 2013




Nebakenezzer posted:

So, my dad surprised me one evening when he said he was thinking of getting a model Spitfire. After some discussing of options, it sounds like he's settled on a 1/48 plastic model kit with me providing the labor and him buying the kit + materials.

So, who makes a good 1/48 Spitfire? Tamiya is my gut instinct

e: vvvv ohhh, good point

Tamiya just released a newly tooled 1/48 Spitfire

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/tamiya-61119-supermarine-spitfire-mki--1162877

Looks a bit similar to a profipack, actually. Has some photoetch along with a canopy mask (you have to cut it yourself though).

Symetrique fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Feb 4, 2019

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Symetrique posted:

Tamiya just released a newly tooled 1/48 Spitfire

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/tamiya-61119-supermarine-spitfire-mki--1162877

Looks a bit similar to a profipack, actually. Has some photoetch along with a canopy mask (you have to cut it yourself though).

Photo-etch isn't colored, if that matters to you.

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012




I'm getting some weird speckling with my airbrush. I'm not sure if it's just the paint I'm using or what. It has an almost sandpapery consistency once dry. I've dialed back both the pressure and flow and then it won't even go through the airbrush. I've also tried thinning it more and then it's just thinner but still with the speckles. The paint is brand new (Mission Models).

Any thoughts?

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




random guess, but is the paint drying in the air? I've heard white will do that so you need retarder

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
Sponsons are done.



Edit: dry fitted the sponsons to show how huge this thing is. It's quite signficantly larger and heavier than most kits of this scale I've done.

Ensign Expendable fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Feb 5, 2019

Skunkduster
Jul 15, 2005




Jonny Nox posted:

random guess, but is the paint drying in the air? I've heard white will do that so you need retarder

That would be my guess, too. I've used Vallejo Airbrush Flow Improver (which is basically just a retarder) with acrylics and it works well. It could also be from holding the airbrush too far from the work which causes the paint to dry in the air before it hits the surface.

I noticed on the Mission Models website that they recommend using their thinner (at >$2 per ounce) to clean their paint out of an airbrush. I bought a big bottle of this stuff for <$1 per ounce and it works great for cleaning acrylics.

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Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Tried using Tamiya's Panel Line Accent for the first time, and..... meh? I think I screwed up the clear-coat so the panel lines aren't recessed enough. I'm gonna flat coat this one and move on.



edit:
Oh, and also. Future is not softened by Turpenoid, but absolutely is by Tamiya Lacquer Thinner

Jonny Nox fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Feb 5, 2019

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