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Halloween Jack posted:I enjoyed Polar, but it's extremely stupid when these exxxtremely silly action movies go "If I can be serious for a minute..." yeah the tonal whiplash was fierce, and stupid. "here's a deep truth about human nature" *pukes a ridiculous stylized "FUN TIMES" font all over the screen with funny sound effects*
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Deadpool pulls it off, but that's because Deadpool is an actual original story with original characters. Polar is a lowbrow spectacle sewn together from gimmicks taken from other movies. And that's fine, it just shouldn't try to wedge genuine pathos between a ninja hooker's butt cheeks.
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I enjoyed Polar but it is absolutely all over the place, and it working at all is pretty much solely on Mads Mikkelsen's shoulders
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Seemlar posted:it working at all is pretty much solely on Mads Mikkelsen's shoulders it’s all Mads https://twitter.com/hideo_kojima_en/status/1089146322332995586 bless Kojima and his unabashed man-love for Mikkelsen 
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I watched Polar last night and should have turned it off after I saw an extremely geriatric looking Johnny Knoxville get comically murdered by a lady who just gave him a blow job, the camera salaciously lingering on the erection on his now-dead body. He needed the money I'm sure, but I can only assume Mikkelsen was in it because he lost a bet.
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Oh Sirotan you reminded me about the other thing that defines Polar: it's extremely horny all the time for no good reason. Smashing a pair of tits up against a window was literally a parody of a skin flick in Kentucky Fried Movie.
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NoneMoreNegative posted:it’s all Mads I mean, when I saw Mads lose an eye in a torture scene followed by him spending five minutes killing goons in a corridor I knew Kojima would spend a day walking funny after watching it
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What I'm getting from this is that I really need to watch Polar.
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I think if it had fully embraced the absurdity it could have maybe been a successful film. Maybe. Like after he straight up murders his brand new puppy, I half expected him to do the same to the goldfish, then acquring another new pet and doing the same over and over. Instead it was just some lovely "eh oh el look know we're subverting John Wick!" moment that made him look like a psychopath, making it real hard for me to later believe he's going to do jack poo poo to save his "neighbor" that he's only known for 2 days or w/e.
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How bad are the torture scenes? It sounds like they take up half the movie. Polar looks like a pastiche/ripoff of a lot of fun and dumb movies I've enjoyed, but I don't want to watch people being graphically and sadistically tortured the whole time.
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:How bad are the torture scenes? It sounds like they take up half the movie. Polar looks like a pastiche/ripoff of a lot of fun and dumb movies I've enjoyed, but I don't want to watch people being graphically and sadistically tortured the whole time. About 15 minutes over the whole movie, a couple brief ones and then a longer 10 minute one, they are suitably nasty but as somebody who hates torture porn they go by pretty quickly. All but one is played for "laughs" (unsuccessfully IMO) Interestingly enough the two shorter ones are both done to fat people which I found to be very nasty and mean spirited. Please note that even when people aren't being tortured the movie is gory as hell. Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Jan 29, 2019 |
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You can often tell how gory an action movie is going to be by how little action is in the trailer. It's like how there's a direct correlation between how bad it's going to be and how many shots there are of the hero racking the slide of a pistol.
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I thought Polar sucked, but Mikkelsen was alright in his avenging angel mode- the whole thing felt like one of those crappy post-Tarantino edgelord movies from the 90's with the color saturation turned up to 11 I did watch the Girl In the Spider's Web over the weekend. It bored me quite a bit, but thesniper scenes were great.
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:How bad are the torture scenes? quote:It sounds like they take up half the movie. quote:Polar looks like a pastiche/ripoff of a lot of fun and dumb movies I've enjoyed,
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those other movies didnt have mads mikkelsen in em. cant compare
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It’s very weird to me that a lot of directors don’t seem to know what to do with Mads when they get him. He’s an endlessly charming dude who usually gets wasted whenever he brushes up with something super broadly mainstream like Doctor Strange or Clash Of The Titans.
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He will forever be Hannibal to me, supplanting Anthony Hopkins (which I would have thought was impossible before viewing). My wife and I thought he was absolutely incredible in that show, even when it got very uneven he was great. Guy is an absolute treasure.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:He will forever be Hannibal to me, supplanting Anthony Hopkins (which I would have thought was impossible before viewing). My wife and I thought he was absolutely incredible in that show, even when it got very uneven he was great. Guy is an absolute treasure. Yea there's probably nothing he'll ever do that will overtake Hannibal in my mind. I actually have a hard time going back to Hopkins version, tbh. If you want to see Mads really prove beyond any doubt that he's a great actor deserving of real parts, watch The Hunt. It's an emotionally devastating film and like so many of his projects, it's all Mads.
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Basebf555 posted:Yea there's probably nothing he'll ever do that will overtake Hannibal in my mind. I actually have a hard time going back to Hopkins version, tbh. The Hunt is very good, and he's also great in the Pusher movies by Nicolas Winding Refn.
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He's even good in that Clive Owen King Arthur movie, a forgettable movie with a really good cast.
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Snowman_McK posted:He's even good in that Clive Owen King Arthur movie, a forgettable movie with a really good cast. That's a movie that didn't make an impression on me at all the first time that I keep meaning to rewatch due to its cast.
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LesterGroans posted:The Hunt is very good, and he's also great in the Pusher movies by Nicolas Winding Refn. Refn’s Valhalla Rising, too.
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If you wish to see an action movie, that has action, I cannot recommend Valhalla Rising.
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Halloween Jack posted:If you wish to see an action movie, that has action, I cannot recommend Valhalla Rising. Valhalla Rising and Only God Forgives are good anti-action movies, where they have violent scenes but they really make you wait for them.
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Mads is good in everything he appears in, he's one of those guys who lifts a production just by his screen presence, but The Hunt is different. He's way more than just someone who can look really good in a suit or say lines with an interesting accent. Hopefully he gets meatier parts in the future.
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If I want a 15 minute buildup to someone getting murdered I'll watch an excellent horror film, like The Neon Demon.
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So I take it this thread is really cold on You Were Never Really Here, then?
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Franchescanado posted:So I take it this thread is really cold on You Were Never Really Here, then? I loved it and probably would say it's top-5 of the year, it's just not an action movie. Phoenix deserved major award consideration for that performance.
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Franchescanado posted:So I take it this thread is really cold on You Were Never Really Here, then? For some reason I just haven't gotten around to it yet; it looks pretty immensely like My poo poo (any movie that gives me Hotline Miami vibes has my attention), but the past year has been a complete hell of stress for me and other movies have usually ended up taking priority. 
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Basebf555 posted:I loved it and probably would say it's top-5 of the year, it's just not an action movie. Phoenix deserved major award consideration for that performance. This discussion made me realize that if you just take an action movie and remove all of the action, you just get a thriller. But agreed, YWNRH is in my top 10 of the year for-sure. I found Phoenix's performance to be emotionally disturbing in the best ways. LORD OF BOOTY posted:For some reason I just haven't gotten around to it yet; it looks pretty immensely like My poo poo (any movie that gives me Hotline Miami vibes has my attention), but the past year has been a complete hell of stress for me and other movies have usually ended up taking priority. You Were Never Really Here is to action films as Under The Skin is to Sci-Fi Horror films. Franchescanado fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Jan 30, 2019 |
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Franchescanado posted:So I take it this thread is really cold on You Were Never Really Here, then? I was pretty cold on it, I guess I just wasn't feeling the ending. I liked the scene with the cops in the hotel room and the early bits where he was being a fixer or whatever, but once the main plot really kicked into it's back half I was pretty tuned out of it.
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Samuel Clemens posted:If you go in expecting Hotline Miami, you're going to be very disappointed. Er... how do you figure, exactly? Because a lot of what I like about Hotline Miami is the incredibly creepy poo poo that happens when it slows down, and that element plus the violence that is there being really, really brutal is what gave me the vibe. Drive is another movie I'd say is along similar lines.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Er... how do you figure, exactly? Because a lot of what I like about Hotline Miami is the incredibly creepy poo poo that happens when it slows down, and that element plus the violence that is there being really, really brutal is what gave me the vibe. I can see what you're talking about but Hotline Miami also kinda has relentless action with bodies dropping all around you and every level leaves like 50 people dead. You Were Never Really Here is not going to even come close to delivering that kind of violence, even if there is some short spurts of it.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Er... how do you figure, exactly? Because a lot of what I like about Hotline Miami is the incredibly creepy poo poo that happens when it slows down, and that element plus the violence that is there being really, really brutal is what gave me the vibe. The violence in You Were Really Here is mostly implied, pretty much everything truly graphic either happens off-screen or is obscured. It's also more sad than creepy, though I suppose that depends somewhat on what you feel for Phoenix' character.
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Samuel Clemens posted:The violence in You Were Really Here is mostly implied, pretty much everything truly graphic either happens off-screen or is obscured. It's also more sad than creepy, though I suppose that depends somewhat on what you feel for Phoenix' character. The implications of the greater plot around him is horrifying and creepy, but yeah, it’s a cold, depressing film.
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Oh my goodness gracious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2odxtTjIA0
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https://twitter.com/TheAVClub/status/1091477070914433024 I'm extremely ready for something I didn't even know existed.
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Franchescanado posted:So I take it this thread is really cold on You Were Never Really Here, then? There's just something too predictable about this stuff. "Serious" director does their own spin on a genre picture. They replace the thrills of the genre with... slowness, 'mood,' and random angst. This is supposed to produce something 'worthy.' "Artistic". Reminds me of that trend of taking cheery, full-band pop songs and doing an acoustic, moody rendition of them that 'really brings out the hidden depth of the lyrics.'
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