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I think Chronicler mentions that he killed an angel as well somewhere in there. And we know he kills or at least steals Cinder's sword at some point. Man, I hope we finally get to the
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Feb 17, 2019 18:38
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Solice Kirsk posted:I think Chronicler mentions that he killed an angel as well somewhere in there. And we know he kills or at least steals Cinder's sword at some point. Man, I hope we finally get to the Yeah he does mention "I can totally tell that this is the guy who's killed angels!!!" at one point, which I guess means he tangled with the Amyr? I dunno. Also, we totally don't know that he killed Cinder. People are just guessing from Abenthy's whole letter about "Remember your father's song. Be wary of folly." and the sword being called Folly. So who knows, we may not even have gotten to the Chandrian once, beyond the stupid bandits thing.
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Feb 17, 2019 20:19
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Kchama posted:Actually he does most of them in the first two books. I think this part refers to the Omnipotent rear end in a top hat Tree. Or maybe Felurian but probably the rear end in a top hat tree that knows everything and fucks with people as much as it can. pikachode posted:i'm almost thirty and the deeds of my youth have already faded into legend JRPG syndrome. Save the world as a teenager and seen as an old person of legend before middle age.
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Feb 17, 2019 20:25
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Evil Fluffy posted:I think this part refers to the Omnipotent rear end in a top hat Tree. Or maybe Felurian but probably the rear end in a top hat tree that knows everything and fucks with people as much as it can. I seem to remember some god-guy in Felurian's stories was one of the random people Kvothe meets. Also twenty-five! He's apparently 25 going on 40!
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Feb 17, 2019 20:38
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Kchama posted:He’s so young, Chronicler marveled. He can’t be more than twenty-five. Why didn’t I see it before? He could break me in his hands like a kindling stick. How did I ever mistake him for an innkeeper, even for a moment? way to break my immersion
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Feb 18, 2019 05:12
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idiotsavant posted:oh and now we're supposed to believe that kvoeth isn't a power bottom Bast wants to gently caress so bad, but Kvothe is playing coy
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Feb 18, 2019 05:29
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I picked up The Wise Man's Fear from a free book box randomly and read it without catching it was a part of a "Trilogy." I thought that treating the reader like they knew what had happened to this guy before was a variation of the whole "had a pirate adventure NBD." It was a better experience and it makes me want to write a scifi or fantasy novel that is billed explicitly as the second book of a trilogy but never write/release the other two.
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Feb 19, 2019 01:06
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Kchama posted:We don't know where the Waystone Inn is either. It's just in a village called Newarre. it's anywhere
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Feb 19, 2019 01:16
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:I picked up The Wise Man's Fear from a free book box randomly and read it without catching it was a part of a "Trilogy." I thought that treating the reader like they knew what had happened to this guy before was a variation of the whole "had a pirate adventure NBD." I, too, wish George Lucas never created the prequel trilogy for Star Wars.
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Feb 19, 2019 01:39
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Still laughing at sex ninjas not understanding reproduction When a dude orgasms, they're just like, "loving gross, why do they do that" lmao
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Feb 19, 2019 12:24
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"A cat isn't the same as a person." "gently caress, that shot holes right into my argument of how reproduction in mammals works....can't wait to blow this whole reproduction thing apart when I get back to wizard school."
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Feb 19, 2019 19:17
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I wasn’t a very critical reader when I first read these books but that part made me squint at the page a bit and irked me for a while afterwards. In retrospect it was what led to realizing Rothfuss’ many other shortcomings as a writer.
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Feb 20, 2019 03:02
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Solice Kirsk posted:"A cat isn't the same as a person." I honestly think we're overly mocking the little tidbit where the sex ninjas don't believe that sex causes pregnancy in humans. It's a quirky belief, but it's not a major plot point or even an important part of their culture or anything, it doesn't drive gender politics or anything weird. People in real life (a lot of people) believe that the Earth is 6000 years old, that if you eat a cracker it literally transforms to the flesh of a zombie Jew who was supposedly tortured to death 2000 years ago and it was all literally told in accurate stories written down sometimes hundreds of years later and translated across languages and it doesn't matter how many children you rape so long as you say sorry a perfect omniscient benevolent God sends you to an eternal happy place if you say he's in charge. Is men have no role in pregnancy really that much of a stretch in a pre-scientific world with a talking tree that sees all possible futures and is incredibly malicious alongside magic and alchemy and poo poo?
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Feb 20, 2019 04:44
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OK, Pat.
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Feb 20, 2019 05:05
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It's not like believing that a goddess makes the crops grow, because that's unverifiable. It's more like not believing that planting seeds in the ground makes crops grow, despite seeing it happen plenty of times. Even the most primitive society can figure out cause-and-effect when there is actual observable data. The ancient Greeks may have believed in Demeter, but they still figured out to plant crops, because otherwise they would have starved to death. So yeah, it's a pretty dumb excuse for promiscuous sex ninjas.
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Feb 20, 2019 05:48
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pseudanonymous posted:People in real life (a lot of people) believe that the Earth is 6000 years old, that if you eat a cracker it literally transforms to the flesh of a zombie Jew who was supposedly tortured to death 2000 years ago and it was all literally told in accurate stories written down sometimes hundreds of years later and translated across languages and it doesn't matter how many children you rape so long as you say sorry a perfect omniscient benevolent God sends you to an eternal happy place if you say he's in charge.
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Feb 20, 2019 06:05
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I can't think of anyone, including priests, who think communion literally transmutes bread and wine to flesh and blood in a cannibalistic ritual. 
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Feb 20, 2019 06:44
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pseudanonymous posted:I honestly think we're overly mocking the little tidbit where the sex ninjas don't believe that sex causes pregnancy in humans. It's a quirky belief, but it's not a major plot point or even an important part of their culture or anything, it doesn't drive gender politics or anything weird. The problem is that, as presented, instead of faux anthropology of a fictional civilization we end up with a "non-westerners have weird beliefs, amairite?"
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Feb 20, 2019 07:29
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Again, the point is not to demonstrate the variety of belief systems across cultures. It's to create a plausible scenario in which even you, the dorky reader, could get laid.
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Feb 20, 2019 08:05
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Evil Fluffy posted:I can't think of anyone, including priests, who think communion literally transmutes bread and wine to flesh and blood in a cannibalistic ritual. pikachode fucked around with this message at 10:09 on Feb 20, 2019 |
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Feb 20, 2019 10:07
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pseudanonymous posted:People in real life (a lot of people) believe that the Earth is 6000 years old, that if you eat a cracker it literally transforms to the flesh of a zombie Jew who was supposedly tortured to death 2000 years ago and it was all literally told in accurate stories written down sometimes hundreds of years later and translated across languages and it doesn't matter how many children you rape so long as you say sorry a perfect omniscient benevolent God sends you to an eternal happy place if you say he's in charge.
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Feb 20, 2019 10:13
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keep in mind that i also don't believe male ejaculation has anything to do with pregnancy, as i like many of my friends am the product of a virgin birth
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Feb 20, 2019 10:34
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Evil Fluffy posted:I can't think of anyone, including priests, who think communion literally transmutes bread and wine to flesh and blood in a cannibalistic ritual. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation
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Feb 20, 2019 12:19
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That's not what transubstantiation is. The "substance" that is transformed is the food's metaphysical nature, independent from its physical attributes. It's loopy, but it's no loopier than the physical/metaphysical distinctions in every spiritual tradition on the planet. Edit: The "Roman Catholic Church" section of the Wikipedia page that you linked is many, many words articulating just that. Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Feb 20, 2019 |
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Feb 20, 2019 12:25
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I think we are overplaying it, but it's just the bit we're making fun of for the time being. Eventually we'll move on to making fun of him for how shittily he's trying to do foreshadowing. "Kvothe is a Lackless everyone!" he screams between lines.
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Feb 20, 2019 14:53
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Sham bam bamina! posted:That's not what transubstantiation is. The "substance" that is transformed is the food's metaphysical nature, independent from its physical attributes. It's loopy, but it's no loopier than the physical/metaphysical distinctions in every spiritual tradition on the planet. I mean okay and not to start a semantic debate but on some level they "literally" do think it's the body and blood of Christ. quote:The Catholic Church asserts that the consecrated bread and wine are not merely "symbols" of the body and blood of Christ: they are the body and blood of Christ.[51] It also declares that, although the bread and wine completely cease to be bread and wine (having become the body and blood of Christ), the appearances (the "species" or look) remain unchanged, and the properties of the appearances also remain (one can be drunk with the appearance of wine despite it only being an appearance). They are still the appearances of bread and wine, not of Christ, and do not inhere in the substance of Christ. They can be felt and tasted as before, and are subject to change and can be destroyed. If the appearance of bread is lost by turning to dust or the appearance of wine is lost by turning to vinegar, Christ is no longer present.[52][53]
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Feb 20, 2019 20:21
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People literally believe the bread they are eating is 2,000 year old zombie jew-god flesh. Why does anyone think its surprising that 'vaccines cause autism' is a thing? Or that people like Name of the Wind.
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Feb 20, 2019 23:31
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Lotta Rothfuss fans, smdh I also just remembered that Kvothe is in a shipwreck, but it gets completely glossed over because his DM needed him to end up in a city without any gear for the encounters he had pre-planned.
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Feb 21, 2019 02:39
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Was that the pirate adventure that gets mentioned in WMF? I'm convinced that whole thing is a calculated move by Rothfuss to market a novella at some point. Well, was, since he's seemingly given up actually writing.
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Feb 21, 2019 02:49
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Ornamented Death posted:Was that the pirate adventure that gets mentioned in WMF? I'm convinced that whole thing is a calculated move by Rothfuss to market a novella at some point. No that was him "subverting expectations" and all that other flowery bullshit people use to describe their favorite garbage author as if they were good. Especially since he brushes it off with a "well you know how it went" and then he proceeds to spend several hundred pages talking about stuff like casting Call Lightning on a bandit camp and sexing up Felurian with his virginal prowess that went exactly as the myths say they did. e: Oh wait, my mistake, Kvothe's retelling of Felurian and everything else is even more fantastical than the myths he's "clearing up." Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Feb 21, 2019 |
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Feb 21, 2019 04:50
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ElGroucho posted:Lotta Rothfuss fans, smdh Yup. When I read this I thought to myself "Kvothe just got Metroided!" UD: To have all of the abilities, equipment, powerups, etc, removed from a character in a videogame. Often happens at the start, or just before the start, of the game. Occasionally happens in the mid-to-late stages, but usually doesn't last for long.
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Feb 21, 2019 05:01
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is PR the new GRRM?
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Feb 21, 2019 05:36
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branedotorg posted:is PR the new GRRM? GRRM had a writing career before ASoIaF and he co-wrote a decent novel (Hunter's Run) after starting ASoIaF so no. Rothfuss is more like the Vermeer of writing, see.
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Feb 21, 2019 05:54
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eXXon posted:GRRM had a writing career before ASoIaF and he co-wrote a decent novel (Hunter's Run) after starting ASoIaF so no. He also wrote a lot more ASoIaF books than Rothfuss did Kingkiller and wasn't out there saying poo poo like "oh yeah all 3 books are totes written already I'll put out one per year" around the time the first came out. GRRM looks bad because pretty much the entire run of the TV show has happened since he put out the last one but I still think Rothfuss is way more embarrassing
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Feb 21, 2019 06:04
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GRRM had a long career with some legit good works before Game of Thrones so nooo waaayyy
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Feb 21, 2019 06:41
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I think its popular to hate GRRM. I think he's also an extremely talented author that most people dream of being able to write as well as. With Rothfuss, people joke about the weird sex stuff and its a legitimate criticism because there are no other strengths for his books to fall back on if you remove it. With Martin, you can make fun of whatever you want, his writing is still loving solid and story interesting.
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Feb 21, 2019 07:24
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porfiria posted:I mean okay and not to start a semantic debate but on some level they "literally" do think it's the body and blood of Christ. That qoute basically says the same thing he said, it reads like to me... I think you *are* starting a semantic debate and should be v ashamed of yourself.
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Feb 21, 2019 07:43
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The thing about extreme beliefs is that the faithful are vehement and zealous. The Ademre on the other hand are only ever amused to have their core beliefs questioned. It’s a wild tone mismatch.
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branedotorg posted:is PR the new GRRM? The first three ASOIAF novels are great, the next two suck poo poo The first Kingkiller ok, the next one sucks, and the last one is never coming out, so no, he is not GRRM ed: My favorite new thing to think about it is "what if Rothfuss wrote someone else's book?" The Old Man and the Sea: "But a man is not made for defeat. A man can be destroyed but not defeated." The Sea Gentleman: "But the sea was like a stone in his pocket, smooth and cold to the touch, like a beautiful woman, lurid in the moonlight, which is like the reflection of an eternal love, which is like the warmth of a flickering lantern" ElGroucho fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Feb 21, 2019 |
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