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TheGreatEvilKing posted:I have no idea how you make it look difficult without it sounding bad, and I'm a string player too. Isn't all the writing about music pretty stupid? I don't play anything, I've tried to learn guitar and piano at various times and everything he writes to me about music playing just sounds absurd. A string breaks mid-performance so he just rewrites all the music mid-performance?
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:I have no idea how you make it look difficult without it sounding bad, and I'm a string player too. I’m imagining someone going full Chris Thile on an easy song. https://youtu.be/cXDL6_3gFu0
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Mar 18, 2019 16:01
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pseudanonymous posted:Isn't all the writing about music pretty stupid? I don't play anything, I've tried to learn guitar and piano at various times and everything he writes to me about music playing just sounds absurd. A string breaks mid-performance so he just rewrites all the music mid-performance? Rothfuss knows literally nothing about music at all and didn't do a single second of research so all the music stuff in it literally makes no sense and is super dumb and is more or less there 'cuz Rothfuss thought it sounded cool.
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Mar 18, 2019 16:26
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No one writes about music like Pat Rothfuss. The way it sneaks into your soul, the way it feeds you like nothing else.
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Mar 18, 2019 16:30
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I will say that Rothfuss.. he does have an indefinable quality. I'm not typically a very close or critical reader, especially of genre fiction. So I read it the first time and I just kind of read it and thought wow that's some cool fantasy. I never read Harry Potter or any of the "go to magic school" books so I don't know how much of it is really a ripoff. But then I re-read it, paying more attention and it's just horrible, horrible. So I can kind of see why people like it so much if you don't really pay any attention all the bad writing and absurd plotting and bizarre characterization and anachronisms, they just kind of hide beneath the surface. Once you break the surface tension I guess, then you're just drowning in poo poo.
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Mar 18, 2019 16:53
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It's like running off of a cliff in a cartoon
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:I have no idea how you make it look difficult without it sounding bad, and I'm a string player too. So this is the passage and in short I misremembered and you're right quote:Before a handful of notes rang out, everyone had caught the tune... A tune shepherds have been whistling for ten thousand years. The simplest of simple melodies. A tune anyone with a bucket could carry. A bucket was overkill, actually. A pair of cupped hands would manage nicely. A single hand. Two fingers, even. So the lil' rascal plays it really fast I guess, and maybe hammers his fingers into the frets or w/e the lute equivalent is and slams the strings and somehow it doesn't sound like rear end? Im just picturing kvothe strumming a 3 chord tune 100 times over because he decided to play it way too fast. Everyone recognises the simple, ubiquitous tune and they're just loving it. Someone walks up on stage and slams out baa baa back sheep twenty times at 300bpm and the crowd goes wild.
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Mar 18, 2019 17:03
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Rothfuss writes about music the same way I would write about being extremely tall That is, it is all a bunch of made up bullshit
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Mar 18, 2019 17:06
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Scholtz posted:It's like running off of a cliff in a cartoon This is a good way of putting it. In fairness to Rothfuss too, most genre fiction is so loving bad you notice the moment you go off the cliff, which is typically in the first paragraph of the unnecessary prologue.
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Gitro posted:This is a potently cursed series of words Two books in and we are only just informed of how Kvothe is such as scamp and trickster figure but we've yet to see him doing any picaresque things except maybe college-pranking Ambrose a couple of times?
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Gitro posted:So this is the passage and in short I misremembered and you're right That scene would be immeasurably improved if Kvothe's gimmick was that he was the world champion Sailor's Hornpipe player.
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Gitro posted:I'm pretty sure the passage is about as descriptive as 'i played this one easy song and made it look super difficult and then i played a real toughie but looked just so bored while i did it' I mean their are songs that are deceptively easy/hard to an audience, but you can't play a song in a way that's deceptive I feel, except maybe make something harder by playing in some stupid key for no reason, but it would still appear to be the same difficulty to the audience.
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I hate to admit it, but that part of the story does ring true for musicians. Just look at any punk band and you'll see people flying around playing their hearts out and it's almost always a stupidly easy song to play vs watching Joe Satriani sit down on a stool and hammer out Summer Song and look like he's about to fall asleep.
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Mar 18, 2019 21:43
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That's the difference between playing energetically and playing in a laid-back fashion. Punks don't make it look hard; they make it look fun.
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I figured he was supposed to be Jimi Hendrix playing the Star-Spangled Banner.
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Solice Kirsk posted:I hate to admit it, but that part of the story does ring true for musicians. Just look at any punk band and you'll see people flying around playing their hearts out and it's almost always a stupidly easy song to play vs watching Joe Satriani sit down on a stool and hammer out Summer Song and look like he's about to fall asleep. Not really. Punk rockers are putting in energy around the song, not in the actual playing. It's just basically what that guy said earlier of "pretending it's really tough to play with your face or whatever vs acting like going your to sleep". If it's a difficult song then it's gonna be obvious even if you're snoring as you play.
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Mar 18, 2019 23:23
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AngusPodgorny posted:I figured he was supposed to be Jimi Hendrix playing the Star-Spangled Banner. I'm glad we've finally grown enough as a society to stop pretending his version of The Star Spangled Banner is any good.
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Punks are also play fast, violent songs that demand fast, violent energy regardless of the complexity of the song. Playing Twinkle Twinkle Little Star to exhaustion is not the same thing.
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Reading the passage again, what I'm picturing is a child's first musical recital. They've got the tip of their tongue sticking out of the side of their mouth. Their eyes are fixed on the keys or fret board. The melody isn't really there at all as they keep pausing to get their finger positions correct. If they play a part wrong they pause and repeat the phrase. Mom is in the audience trying to clap the beat and her head is nodding up and down in sync with each note they struggle through and as soon as its over she runs up on stage and hugs her little angel and says what a good job she did. Meanwhile all of the other parents are praying for a merciful death up until its their own little snowflake's turn to do the same thing.
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Mar 20, 2019 06:14
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The Kingkiller chronicles book 3: praying for a merciful death
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What is a jot anyway
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mp5 posted:What is a jot anyway Matt 5:18 KJV, iota / small mark
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mp5 posted:What is a jot anyway 1/10 of a talent. Out of everything talked about in the books, I think money is the most common theme. Certainly isn't killing kings. Also, they made them. This is what a jot is: 
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Is that the poop emoji?
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These recent excerpts remind me of a review I read of the first book a few years ago.quote:As I labored mightily, sweat fell wetly from my furrowed brow, like heavy drops of rain from a dark summer storm. I firmly extended a finger long as a knife-blade and hastily scanned the pages, pages where adverbs and similes and metaphors lay thick as leaves on the autumn ground. I smiled wanly, like an author who explains the meaning behind every line of dialogue and bit of body language after writing them. Though I had never read Rothfuss before, I took to it instantly, confidently mastering its every trope and trick and tic in under a fortnight. "God’s charred body,“ I exclaimed breathlessly after several chapters had passed like ships through a harbor bustling with harvest-time merchant ships jostlingly unloading their unloadable wares. "Is this tale truly a tale of a tale-teller telling the tale of how his life has been like a tale the tale-tellers tell?” The book fell heavily from my trembling fingers before clattering loudly to the hard ground like a blade tumbling fatally from the grasping hand of a rapidly dying man. “But these kinds of stories only happen in stories!"
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A Light Grift posted:These recent excerpts remind me of a review I read of the first book a few years ago. That's pretty great.
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A Light Grift posted:These recent excerpts remind me of a review I read of the first book a few years ago. Goddamn 
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Can we make this the thread title: a tale of a tale-teller telling the tale of how his life has been like a tale the tale-tellers tell
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A Light Grift posted:These recent excerpts remind me of a review I read of the first book a few years ago. This should be the foreword of Doors of Stone when it's finally written by Brandon Sanderson.
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P-Rotty posted:“Kingkiller, my work on the books, is—again, it might seem strange for people to hear—but nobody laments the lack of tangible progress more than me, in terms of the next Kingkiller book,” Rothfuss told Cunningham. “But things are moving forward, if not fast—again, I’ve never promised fast, ever since I knew what I was good at professionally. I made promises very early on in interviews where I’m like, ‘Yeah, I’m going to do these books one a year.’ But I was an idiot. I had just been published for like two months, I had no idea what I was talking about.” God what an insufferable turd.
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Imagine if Kingkiller had been discernibly bad.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:
So what's his excuse for 2007/2011?
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Apr 4, 2019 22:33
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Wow, Name of the Wind was published in 2007. Sheesh.
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When my ESL students describe their reactions to writing samples using terms like that, I typically fail them on the assignment. This guy is a professional author and the best he can come up with is that what he read was witty and clever.
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Atlas Hugged posted:When my ESL students describe their reactions to writing samples using terms like that, I typically fail them on the assignment. It was also fun and funny
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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > The Book Barn > The Kingkiller Chronicles: A Trilogy in Two Parts
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ahem Rothfarce
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:God what an insufferable turd. This dude sucks so hard Off topic, just finished reading Gene Wolfe's Peace, and now I can't sleep and have a deep sense of dread But this dread is not as bad as knowing that Rothfuss is going to keep writing and people are going to keep reading his anime fuckboi product
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ElGroucho posted:But this dread is not as bad as knowing that Rothfuss is going to keep writing and people are going to keep reading his anime fuckboi product Dude, Rothfuss is not going to publish more than another short story or maybe two....possibly another novella.
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https://www.newsweek.com/kingkiller-chronicle-book-3-release-date-patrick-rothfuss-doors-stone-1384701 this passed over my newsfeed. nothing new here but I do appreciate Pat calling himself an idiot for his comments about how he had the whole trilogy written even before the first book came out.
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