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MonsieurChoc posted:Hot couch experience with Evangelion dvd menu has to be quite something. Full throated screaming mustnt run away as you charge the dvd player to force eject the disc
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Lmao at even the idea of wanting to watch Eva dubbed
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Mar 24, 2019 05:43
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Barudak posted:Full throated screaming mustnt run away as you charge the dvd player to force eject the disc Before discus-hurling the disc into the nearest forested area, in hopes that it's never found so it never traumatizes another human.
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Mar 24, 2019 06:05
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Sadly there are 11 more copies being delivered to your house over the next few months so you can never truly relax.
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Mar 24, 2019 08:04
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I guess this means that we'll get a dub of End of Evangelion without the ketchup splorch noises and "hit 'em again". I'm unironically going to miss "sweet Jesus it's an anti-AT field  " though.
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Mar 24, 2019 08:48
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Are they going to re-dub EoE or just the original 26?
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Mar 24, 2019 14:06
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Scyantific posted:Are they going to re-dub EoE or just the original 26? Both to my understanding
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Mar 24, 2019 14:55
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Halfway into watching the series, the episode name Rei 2 is driving my viewing buddy crazy. Every episode they expect an explanation but were no closer and its beginning to drive them crazy. Theyre surprisingly on board with everyone except Ritsuko and Gendo.
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Mar 25, 2019 01:55
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MonsieurChoc posted:A friend of mine met Tristan McAvery and apparently he had a lot of bad things to say about the old Dub crew, especially Tiffany and her husband. And he was still pissed at being ignored for the Rebuild Dubs. That wouldn't be too surprising given that he wasn't included in the Director's Cut episodes, either. It's unfortunate because Swasey's Gendo is perfectly fine, I think McAvery had a much more suitable voice for the character and delivered some lines much better.
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Mar 25, 2019 02:45
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:That wouldn't be too surprising given that he wasn't included in the Director's Cut episodes, either. It's unfortunate because Swasey's Gendo is perfectly fine, I think McAvery had a much more suitable voice for the character and delivered some lines much better. Yeah, I didn't understand why they replaced Gendo, Kaworu and Aoba. Guess it was internal politics at ADV?
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Mar 25, 2019 03:13
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Zeruel posted:Yeah, I didn't understand why they replaced Gendo, Kaworu and Aoba. Guess it was internal politics at ADV? With voices actors a lot of the time it is scheduling or commitments, especially since it used to be a more time consuming process to get voicework done. These days a lot of voice actors have studios in their houses which offer them a lot more flexibility in roles.
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Mar 25, 2019 03:17
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The thing Ive taken away most from rewatching this with my partner is man without EoE Asuka just gets dumped on haaaaard and even with it it just sucks to be Asuka.
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Mar 25, 2019 17:13
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Zeruel posted:Yeah, I didn't understand why they replaced Gendo, Kaworu and Aoba. Guess it was internal politics at ADV? Well, if my friend is to believed, it was politics. 
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Mar 25, 2019 18:03
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Barudak posted:The thing Ive taken away most from rewatching this with my partner is man without EoE Asuka just gets dumped on haaaaard and even with it it just sucks to be Asuka. It's kind of weird because Asuka experiences that whole "wunderkid comes up with reality" arc where she's in a situation where she's not crazy exceptional and it leads to a bunch of crises culminating in, possibly, ego-death or whatever that one Angel does to her mind. But Shinji isn't even like a savant, he's just got the mommy cheat code. Then EoE happens and it's a redemption before she gets smacked the gently caress down. Even at your best you're just not good enough. On some level I feel like it'a trying to give her a come-uppance for the earlier brattyness but god it's so cruel.
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Mar 25, 2019 18:22
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I feel like its two things. The first is Asuka sinks low but she never has a chance to actually think about it like Shinji. She cant bring herself to do anything, even in her deep unhappiness she cant even bring herself to talk to Rei and unlike Shinji she never asks questions. Like that theme of Shinji actually wanting to know and risking being hurt more by asking is always juxtaposed with Asuka's pointed refusal to do the same. Like when she gets mad at the eva she speaks to it the exact same doll language her mother uses and doesnt bother to investiage why it doesnt respond to her down to Asuka mentioning she knows the answer to the test so she doesnt bother learning to read the questions. The other of course is Shinji's mom seems to have genuinely cared for him so asking to synchronize with someone whose goals are clear and positive is much easier. For Asuka even in EoE when Asuka's Eva is working properly the thing is alternating from wanting to fight to wanting to die and keeps vocalizing it. Asuka has the uneviable task of being forced to keep an unstable and dangerous to her mental health person in her life and depending how you think an eva works share in that madness.
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Mar 26, 2019 01:43
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is unit 2 unstable? i thought the reasoning for her mom being cold and uncaring and unstable was because her “maternal” aspect of her soul was embedded in unit 2? unless this like WILD conjecture (which writing it now im sure it is ) i never was struck by unit 2 as being unstable
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Mar 26, 2019 02:38
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It's conjecture but it's circumstantially supported by EoE, where Asuka (moments before she dies) experiences Eva-02's presence as her mother's love. Also, piloting Eva is what gives Asuka validation, arguably even comfort; it's her already-existing trauma that gives her such a tremendous need for it. This is still psychologically destructive for obvious reasons (Shinji has a loving mother in Unit-01 and piloting is still a horrific experience for him, after all) but I don't think that Eva-02 is uniquely bad for Asuka; I think she just has a harder time trusting her mother than Shinji does. (And who wouldn't, under the circumstances?)
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Mar 26, 2019 02:57
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Dunno if Asuka's mother had an undiagnosed mental issue, but basically after the entry plug or sync test she comes out withdrawn or depressed. Which, i think, was where the "motherly aspect left in Eva" thing came about. Was that EoE/D&R stuff? I just remember it being dumped on the audience shortly before Asuka discovers her body...
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Mar 26, 2019 03:28
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Asukas mother had a stuffed doll that she refered to as Asuka and put all her love on as she started having her mental breakdown. You see Asuka hate the doll and demand her mother recognize her. When Asuka's mother killed herself she "killed" the doll, too which further messes with Asuka. All that is in the main series so its no EoE add on and appears pretty diagnosed even if the whole "asukas dad moved on to the nurse no problem instead of dealing with his wife" is not as clear.
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Mar 26, 2019 04:08
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Just got caught up on the new dub news well Hopefully Tiffany Grant can still be Asuka in 4.0 so she doesn't end up murdering someone while wearing a foam Unit 02 suit or something
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Mar 26, 2019 04:46
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MechaX posted:Just got caught up on the new dub news I doubt Funimation will change up the movies regardless of what Netflix does for their release of the series.
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Mar 26, 2019 04:48
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Unmature posted:I need some good EVA figures on my shelf. What are the best ones? Would prefer something poseable but I could do some cool statues. So this is a few pages back but it only got one answer and I figured I'd elaborate on it. For the TV series designs your options are the old Soul of Chogokin units for 00, 00 Kai, 01, 02, 03, and 04. I think there's Revoltechs for at least the main trio in that design too but I can't remember. For the Rebuild designs you have Revoltech figures for 00, 01, 02, 03, 05, mk 6, 08, 09, 13, and the rebuild of 02, plus a beast mode version of it. A lot of people swear by the Robot Damashii versions of Rebuild 00, 01, and 02 but those are like $120+ per to get now on the secondary market. Mafex is putting out a Rebuild version of unit 01 this month, with unit 02 coming this summer and 00 late this year. The Mafex or Revoltech releases are probably your best bet as you're okay with the Rebuild designs. As the other poster noted there's model releases but I'm far less familiar with those.
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Mar 26, 2019 10:48
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Regalingualius posted:June 21. lmfao that's almost as bad as that Elder Scroll Blades phone game looking like it was going to be a "AVAILABLE NOW!" Fallout Shelter style announcement at the last E3 and then turning out to be more like 1 year away. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Mar 27, 2019 |
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Mar 27, 2019 00:08
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MagusDraco posted:https://twitter.com/amandawinnlee/status/1109279696347291648 hot take: who cares, we already have versions with your voices and all of you probably sound hella different now anyway.
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Mar 27, 2019 00:09
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They didn’t do the dub as teenagers. Why would you think they changed
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Mar 27, 2019 00:11
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I'm sure you all know better than I do but goddamn 25 years? It's bound to not be the same, just let someone else do it.
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Mar 27, 2019 00:15
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Because people's voices change all the time. Singers specifically have to deal with primary and secondary vocal drops, I can't imagine VAs don't go through it as well.
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Mar 27, 2019 02:18
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Lol at the idea of just redoing a poo poo-rear end 90s VA delivery again. I'm sure Netflix wants Eva to sound like a PS1 cutscene voiceover.
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FilthyImp posted:Lol at the idea of just redoing a poo poo-rear end 90s VA delivery again. I'm sure Netflix wants Eva to sound like a PS1 cutscene voiceover. The voice-actors all still work to this day and are great. A 2019 redub would have the benefit of superior direction and scripting which is largely what kills more dubs than the VAs being bad at their jobs. Unless Netflix is gonna spring for Hollywood actors or whatever instead of the usual voice-actor pool.
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Mar 27, 2019 02:38
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People tend to not realize most lovely VAs are more direction than the actors themselves
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Mar 27, 2019 02:46
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Ok, that's a fair point and one I've overlooked too often.
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Mar 27, 2019 03:36
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Yeah Amanda Winn-Lee would've had better direction in End of Evangelion had she not suffered under the poor adr direction of Jason Lee and Amanda Winn-Lee. Like I don't hate her and honestly thank god she took it upon herself to produce the english version so people like me could own it on dvd but there is such a weird vibe to the movie as a result.
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Mar 27, 2019 04:41
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Weird BIAS posted:Yeah Amanda Winn-Lee would've had better direction in End of Evangelion had she not suffered under the poor adr direction of Jason Lee and Amanda Winn-Lee. It just seemed a little unprofessional to inject your opinion about what you're dubbing. I could be completely wrong about this, I'm only half-remembering it. EDIT: After some googling, it looks like the dub actors recorded a commentary track for the EoE DVD that is mostly inaccurate information about what's happening onscreen. It's highly maligned by Eva nerds, so I thiiiink that's what I was remembering? JazzFlight fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Mar 27, 2019 |
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Mar 27, 2019 14:13
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I mean actors are allowed to have opinions on stuff. Doesn’t mean they sandbagged or whatever. It seems more likely it suffered from what a lot of 90s dubs suffered from. The fact no one really cared about dubs. So the infrastructure just wasn’t there yet
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Mar 27, 2019 14:31
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My current feeling on dubs is that most from the late 80s to early 00s were pretty bad with no direction and not amazing actors; nowadays however the newer actors are actually way loving better but the directors and larger roles are the veterans from the 90s who still haven't improved.
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Mar 27, 2019 14:51
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There wasn't enough money in it yet?
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There are more than a few SegaCD/PS1 games where they literally grabbed someone in the office at the time to record dialogue, and the general quality of dubbing at the time wasn't much better with the pro VAs. But then again, people were trying to match lipflaps so you........ getreallybadlypaced dialogue..asa result. Part of what made Bebop good, aside from the fact that the actors don't sound weird, is that the performance is more naturalistic and less forced than usual. Zeruel posted:There wasn't enough money in it yet? Studios now are less likely to just have someone inject changes into a series (Unless it's Ghost Stories because that one ruled) because they know the audience better. There's also less an idea that we can "improve" the story or whatever. JazzFlight posted:Was it on a commentary track or something? I should rewatch part of it just as a reminder... FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Mar 27, 2019 |
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Mar 27, 2019 16:01
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Zebulon posted:So this is a few pages back but it only got one answer and I figured I'd elaborate on it. For the TV series designs your options are the old Soul of Chogokin units for 00, 00 Kai, 01, 02, 03, and 04. I think there's Revoltechs for at least the main trio in that design too but I can't remember. For the Rebuild designs you have Revoltech figures for 00, 01, 02, 03, 05, mk 6, 08, 09, 13, and the rebuild of 02, plus a beast mode version of it. A lot of people swear by the Robot Damashii versions of Rebuild 00, 01, and 02 but those are like $120+ per to get now on the secondary market. Mafex is putting out a Rebuild version of unit 01 this month, with unit 02 coming this summer and 00 late this year. The Mafex or Revoltech releases are probably your best bet as you're okay with the Rebuild designs. As the other poster noted there's model releases but I'm far less familiar with those. Thanks!
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JazzFlight posted:I could be remembering wrong, but wasn't there something like the dub team being weirded out by End of Eva? Maybe even one of the actors refusing to participate or something? Was it on a commentary track or something? What basically happened, if I remember correctly, is that the Death and Rebirth + EoE dub productions started immediately after post wrappsed up on the series and were both done in a huge, singular marathon production, so by the time they got around to EoE all of the crew were completely burned out psychologically, which - combined with just how heavy EoE is - is why EoE's dub has so much weird poo poo in it. AWL mentions in the commentary that there were points where she was literally having to stay up all night doing cleanup for scene scripts that she was going to have to then direct at the crack of dawn the following day, because the production wasn't given remotely the amount of time or budget it deserved.
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CharlestheHammer posted:People tend to not realize most lovely VAs are more direction than the actors themselves Allison Keith started off rough as Misato, but by the time you get midway through the series she has the character absolutely nailed.
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