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Doctor Faustine posted:Is it just me or does Jon Snow look vaguely like Post Malone minus a few dumb face tats? he’s a mildly attractive white dude so yeah?
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seems like it was a bad idea to send a small child to rally the north's most vulnerable frontline outpost theory: jon got baby Lord Umber killed on purpose just so he wouldn't have to think about the dumb political argument from last season
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Apr 17, 2019 06:11
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Apr 17, 2019 07:21
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i have some questions about maesters do noble houses just request a maester from the Citadel? Do they pay a fee or something? Are maesters obligated to serve whoever rules the castle, even if ownership changes hands?
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Apr 17, 2019 07:27
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Not sure about a fee, but the citadel assigns a maester to every house. There's probably some smaller ones that don't have maesters. They are obligated to serve the Lord, even if they change hands. We saw that with Theon and Maester Luwin in Winterfell.
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Apr 17, 2019 07:36
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Who funds Maester Hogwarts? Are they just required to accept the person a keep assigns them? Like castle black sends Sam as opposed to Hogwarts sending them a new trained Maester in the meantime.
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Zippy the Bummer posted:
this becomes a thing later on, iirc (though i might be remembering somebody's headcanon) technically a maester is assigned to the castle/holding, not the lord who holds it so they are expected to cooperate with whoever is in charge, even if that authority is totally illegitimate lords probably would take a dim view of this technicality, but it gives maesters a sort of "well, technically..." argument in scenarios where you've got people roaming around stealing castles Katt posted:Who funds Maester Hogwarts? Are they just required to accept the person a keep assigns them? Books-wise, the citadel gets a fuckton of funding from the Hightowers, as does the church. The Hightowers being rich enough to fund no less than 2 crucial continent-spanning institutions is why they figure so prominently in fandom theorycrafting conspiracy nonsense despite having no relevant characters. Beyond that, any nobles sending their children there would presumably include a decent amount of money as allowance/maintenance, which the citadel would end up getting some of thru various schemes (paying for uniforms/equipment etc) even if tuition isn't a thing. I wouldn't rule out there being some rule where Lord X has to send in a chonk of gold whenever he needs a new maester - this would explain why maesters aren't murdered more often, even though they probably should be - but there's ways they could get money out of the arrangement regardless. Also the Citadel could just raise funds itself. Universities irl are and always have been players in finance and equity, it would make sense if the Citadel did the medieval equivalent - buying shares in a trade fleet or whatever, being landlords of the businesses that cater to the students, etc. ANYWAY They probably do have to accept the students sent to them, if the funding works the way I think Being a place to stash failsons like Leo Tyrell is one of the key social roles the Citadel provides. That wouldn't work out very well if they could just ship 'em back. like presumably someone could be expelled, but they wouldn't just go "hey, Lord Asshat of Dongsbury, yer kid tanked the entrance exam" PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 08:42 on Apr 17, 2019 |
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Apr 17, 2019 07:59
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Does anyone else feel like Lord Tarley wasn't trying very hard to keep his son from incineration? No speech about "you have to take care of the family/lands/name now" No bashing on the head or yelling at him to stop being dumb. Just like "Meh whatever lets do this" Katt fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Apr 17, 2019 |
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Apr 17, 2019 08:36
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Katt posted:Does anyone else feel like Lord Tarley wasn't trying very hard to keep his son from incineration? No speech about "you have to take care of the family/lands/name now" I think Randyll realized the moment Dickon volunteered to get burned too that literally nothing he could say was going to get him to step back and bend the knee to Dany because he'd drilled the kid from birth to be 1000% loyal to him, not like that fuckup Sam, to the point where, yeah, he'd lay his head on the chopping block across his dad's neck purely to be a Good Son to Randyll Tarly and it backfired spectacularly. Basically, victory defeated Randyll Tarly.
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Apr 17, 2019 08:45
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It is weird that they wouldn't send another Maester to the citadel. Presumably, Sam was in for years of study.
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Apr 17, 2019 09:09
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nine-gear crow posted:I think Randyll realized the moment Dickon volunteered to get burned too that literally nothing he could say was going to get him to step back and bend the knee to Dany because he'd drilled the kid from birth to be 1000% loyal to him, not like that fuckup Sam, to the point where, yeah, he'd lay his head on the chopping block across his dad's neck purely to be a Good Son to Randyll Tarly and it backfired spectacularly. the tarlys also are like triple or quadruple traitors by now - dany would almost certainly have stripped their lands and titles maybe randyll understood this and thought "hell, we're done anyway, might as well go out in the pissiest way possible, as it were" dude mostly runs on spite, after all
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Apr 17, 2019 09:27
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PupsOfWar posted:the tarlys also are like triple or quadruple traitors by now - dany would almost certainly have stripped their lands and titles Nah, you could see it all over his face. He was legit crushed the moment Dickon opened his mouth. Even Dany got a tiny bit squeamish about roasting him too, but he was so drat insistent she was the one who went, "uh, okay, gently caress it I guess." nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Apr 17, 2019 |
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Apr 17, 2019 09:32
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tarlys are just starks who can fight gently caress em for not playing the game
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Apr 17, 2019 10:21
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why did they spend one of the few remaining episodes for nothing
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Apr 17, 2019 12:24
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I think Lord Tarley was just massively racist and refused to commit his 4th or 5th treason because Danny had a lot of ethnic soldiers.
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Apr 17, 2019 13:22
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I thought the big battle is supposed to be like mid season? I bet all the Night King bullshit gets wrapped up before episodes 6 or 7. I bet those are spent mostly on good old fashioned Got politicking. By which I mean Tyrion getting executed for supporting Cersei. The last scene of the series will be Dany wiggling her eyebrows to Jon Snow provocatively while he stands there with his mouth open.
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Apr 17, 2019 15:37
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Katt posted:I think Lord Tarley was just massively racist and refused to commit his 4th or 5th treason because Danny had a lot of ethnic soldiers. He says something to the effect of this right before becoming a briquette. Something about how Danny is a foreign queen with a foreign army. I can totally buy that his stubbornness was more down to bigotry than honor.
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Apr 17, 2019 15:49
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Can someone explain WHY the CotF would want to create the Others / NK and hiw that figures into the timeline in which they created them.
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Skippy McPants posted:He says something to the effect of this right before becoming a briquette. Something about how Danny is a foreign queen with a foreign army. I can totally buy that his stubbornness was more down to bigotry than honor. I'm Canadian and I can tell you that if Canada was invaded by the United States, I would also rather be burnt alive than swear allegiance to them....and im not a military commander.
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Apr 17, 2019 16:15
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TommyGun85 posted:Can someone explain WHY the CotF would want to create the Others / NK and hiw that figures into the timeline in which they created them. That’s the mystery the prequel series will revolve around
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Apr 17, 2019 16:17
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TommyGun85 posted:Can someone explain WHY the CotF would want to create the Others / NK and hiw that figures into the timeline in which they created them. They were fighting a war against the first men and losing. They created the NK/Others as a super weapon to wipe out men. Unfortunately for them, that experiment went wrong presumably and the Others tried to wipe both men and the Cotf out, and mostly succeeded in getting rid of the latter. The Cotf and Men banded together to stop them and mostly succeeded, and using their combined strength they put up the Wall. Oh I've wasted my life
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Apr 17, 2019 16:27
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TommyGun85 posted:Can someone explain WHY the CotF would want to create the Others / NK and hiw that figures into the timeline in which they created them. I think it was implied somewhere that the CotF created the Others/WWs to combat the First Men, who were doing their best to genocide the CotF.
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Apr 17, 2019 16:28
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Ginette Reno posted:They were fighting a war against the first men and losing. They created the NK/Others as a super weapon to wipe out men. Unfortunately for them, that experiment went wrong presumably and the Others tried to wipe both men and the Cotf out, and mostly succeeded in getting rid of the latter. The Cotf and Men banded together to stop them and mostly succeeded, and using their combined strength they put up the Wall. I thought the CotF and the First Men had already ended their war at that point and divided up their lands resukting in the children being in the forests... are yiu sure the chronology works? e: I checked a wiki and thry had a pact for 4000 years befroe the first long night occurred. TommyGun85 fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Apr 17, 2019 |
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Apr 17, 2019 16:31
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TommyGun85 posted:I thought the CotF and the First Men had already ended their war at that point and divided up their lands resukting in the children being in the forests... I don't know in terms of the book timeline, but the show clearly shows the CotF creating the Walkers. There's no reason for them to do that except to try and kill/slow down men, so presumably they did it either while the war was still happening or as some sort of preventative measure after the war happened. In any case it obviously went wrong since they ended up putting up the wall and then men learned how to warg and poo poo which was probably taught/gifted to them by the Cotf. I doubt men could have put up the wall by themselves.
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Apr 17, 2019 16:34
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A wizard did it.
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Apr 17, 2019 16:36
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Bran: So why did you make them anyway? Child of the Forest exaggeratedly rolls his eyes CotF: Oh no! I shouldn't have played god! What hath I wrought??? Child of the Forest rolls his eyes again CotF: I shouldn't have to explain simple scientific curiosity to a half-monkey. We made them because we could. Enough questions.
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Apr 17, 2019 16:39
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THis guys taking Hodor off the grid!
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Apr 17, 2019 16:52
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TommyGun85 posted:I'm Canadian and I can tell you that if Canada was invaded by the United States, I would also rather be burnt alive than swear allegiance to them....and im not a military commander. Serves you right for burning the first white house to be fair 
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TommyGun85 posted:I thought the CotF and the First Men had already ended their war at that point and divided up their lands resukting in the children being in the forests... preston jacobs is a crazy person, but one area where he's right is in pointing out the Children seemingly got shafted real bad in that pact humans get practically everything, Children get driven to the deepest darkest bullshit forests (and, knowing humans, they'd probably come for those eventually anyway) it makes sense there would still be a lot of fear and resentment there, even long after the war basically i think it was peace in the sense that there was peace between the federal government and native american tribes Ginette Reno posted:I doubt men could have put up the wall by themselves. the Others built the wall as a safeguard against human imperialism and other depredations Mance hosed up this status-quo by digging through sacred Other burial sites, which, in conjunction with mounting political instability and human rights violations south of the Wall, is why the Others were regretfully forced to subdue westeros with a peacekeeping force PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Apr 17, 2019 |
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Apr 17, 2019 17:46
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PupsOfWar posted:the Others built the wall as a safeguard against human imperialism and other depredations That makes sense
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Apr 17, 2019 17:48
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Brandon the Builder was a human and the wall was built with human magic. The CotF would have just used a force field or whatever. I've wasted my life.
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Unwise DecisionsA GLISTENING HODOR posted:Brandon the Builder was a human and the wall was built with human magic. that Brandon the Builder was human is supposition at best like yeah brandon is mostly a human name so far as we know anyone can be given the name brandon though!
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Apr 17, 2019 18:50
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Maybe the watch would have done better if it was like something you could do for 5-10 years to earn prestige back in your home country instead of being locked away in a frozen castle with rapists and murderers for all eternity.
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Apr 17, 2019 19:02
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Jon got out, if he can do it anybody can. Just need a red witch to resurrect you
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Apr 17, 2019 19:16
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less laughter posted:Jon got out, if he can do it anybody can. Just need a red witch to resurrect you I'm surprised anyone accepted that excuse as opposed to declaring him a deserter from the watch.
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Apr 17, 2019 19:20
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Katt posted:I'm surprised anyone accepted that excuse as opposed to declaring him a deserter from the watch. The watch is decimated and what's left is led by one of his best friends who saw him die and come back. Not to mention Ned was probably the last Northern ruler who was a big enough rules lawyer to actually go around rounding up NW deserters and beheading them.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:The watch is decimated and what's left is led by one of his best friends who saw him die and come back. Not to mention Ned was probably the last Northern ruler who was a big enough rules lawyer to actually go around rounding up NW deserters and beheading them. Yeah but some cloak and dagger poo poo like propaganda. Like how the rumour that Geoffrey was Jaime and Cerseis son. At first people were just "well gently caress the Lannisters so alright" with no proof at all. The Northern Lords ever even question his release from the watch even though that never ever happens.
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Apr 17, 2019 19:33
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Katt posted:The Northern Lords ever even question his release from the watch even though that never ever happens. Aside from any other reasons they also all know the wildlings are willing to throw down for him. That alone is probably enough to make them all just table that discussion for another day.
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Apr 17, 2019 19:56
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Still pretty impressed with how dumb Sansa is. There's a battle with a million zombies heading your way and you want to send away the shitzillion ultra-soldiers, the shitzillion psycho barbarian cavalry, and the two dragons because, what, your plan is to just have lots of food and WAIT OUT the army of the DEAD, who have patiently waited 8000 years to gently caress you up? Jesus Christ, Sansa is the dumbest motherfucker on the planet.
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Sansa did like one not dumb thing ever and that was to have Balish executed. I was amazed at how not dumb that was. And it's been back down hill after that. Aryas "she's the smartest person I know" makes no sense at all.
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