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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:The Harbor Freight pancake compressors really are one of their indestructible little gems. I guess for better or worse there is no UK equivalent to HF? Where do you people buy your cheap poo poo from? Indeed, we don't have one that I know of. There are budget "own brand" lines of products in our Lowes-equivalents, which are the same white label things you'd get under ten different made up brand names on Amazon. In B&Q they're branded MacAlister, for example. Also as far as I can tell the "pancake" compressors don't exist here. Kaiser Schnitzel posted:Also yeah who cares about the noise. Leave it on another floor and get a 100' hose. Harry Potter on Ice posted:Yes, put it in a different room. It's a huge advantage Fair. OK so we're looking at: Compressor, £90 30m hose, £23 18G nail gun, £60 16G nail gun, £70 2.5k 2" 16G nails, £10 1k 2" 18G nails, £9 Blow gun, tyre inflator, spiral hose, £18 So, a grand total of £280 or $350.
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Jaded Burnout posted:Indeed, we don't have one that I know of. There are budget "own brand" lines of products in our Lowes-equivalents, which are the same white label things you'd get under ten different made up brand names on Amazon. In B&Q they're branded MacAlister, for example. Also as far as I can tell the "pancake" compressors don't exist here. Instead of 1 30 meter hose, get 2 15's. Only using the longer hose will reduce efficiency when you don't need all 100 feet of it. Also, I recommend not getting 2" 18#, that's sort of redundant since you've already got that length in 16#. Get shorter ones, like an inch. Somebody in the States buy this guy an 18# pin nailer and post it to him. Or Jade, you could check into opening an account with Amazon.com/ or https://www.grizzly.com/ in the States and see what shipping would run. Grizzly has their brad nailer/stapler combo for $59, and a stapler is very handy attaching door casing to jambs and other wood-to-wood applications.
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All this pancake / hotdog talk is making me hungry. I gotta vouch for the porter cable pancake. It's light and very capable, and stable. Perfect for roofing. Mine finally died after like 15 years of hard use.
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I don't know if they sell them in the UK, but the California Air Tools compressor was recommended to me in this thread when I was looking to get a new air compressor. It was the same amount as one of the pancake compressors, but is so much quieter that I would (and have) recommend it to anyone looking to get a new compressor.
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Mr. Mambold posted:Instead of 1 30 meter hose, get 2 15's. Only using the longer hose will reduce efficiency when you don't need all 100 feet of it. Makes sense. Mr. Mambold posted:Also, I recommend not getting 2" 18#, that's sort of redundant since you've already got that length in 16#. Get shorter ones, like an inch. Also reasonable, they do a multipack of smaller sizes in that gauge. Mr. Mambold posted:Somebody in the States buy this guy an 18# pin nailer and post it to him. Or Jade, you could check into opening an account with Amazon.com/ or https://www.grizzly.com/ in the States and see what shipping would run. Grizzly has their brad nailer/stapler combo for $59 Amazon have shipped to the UK from the US for a while, to the point where they provide pre-pay on customs fees, which is handy. For example, this combo nailer/stapler would be £43 delivered. If I were to do that I'd lose the warranty, so it might be worth picking up higher quality stuff since it seems to work out cheaper than something lower quality here. To that end, any suggestions for go-to nailer brands on amazon.com? Things like the compressor are still out of reach since the shipping is like $150. Mr. Mambold posted:a stapler is very handy attaching door casing to jambs and other wood-to-wood applications. I'm a little surprised at this, I didn't know staples were that powerful. I assumed they were used mostly for upholstery type things. AFewBricksShy posted:I don't know if they sell them in the UK, but the California Air Tools compressor was recommended to me in this thread They don't, unfortunately.
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May 31, 2019 17:55
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I'd look around and see if there are any locally available 2nd hand compressors.
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Jaded Burnout posted:Makes sense. Most of them are Chinese made, regardless of brand. The QC of each Chinese factory is the key, and I've no idea on that. I'd pick something cheapish that hasn't been excoriated in the reviews, and beat the poo poo out of it for a few weeks to make sure it's not garbage. To my eye, that NuMax is the same tool as Bostich and Paslode sell. For that price, I'd get that combo and never look back. I put a few drops of light machine oil right into the intake periodically also. Typically warranties on these type tools aren't worth it, imo. As to the staplers, the wire is the same gauge as 18# iirc, much stouter than upholstery staples, so it more than doubles the holding power, having the connected crown. These also vary in length up to around 1 1/4", I think. There's scenarios where each is preferable.
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Alright so in the end I bought the 16 and 18G NuMax guns from the US, they're arriving in a couple of weeks, and instead of two 15m hoses I got a 15m and a 30m because of the way the pricing shakes out. That combined with the 5m spiral hose should have me covered for all eventualities. I also grabbed a mix pack of different 15 to 30mm 18G nails instead of the 50mm ones, and I'll go get a compressor from Screwfix next time I'm on that side of town. His Divine Shadow posted:I'd look around and see if there are any locally available 2nd hand compressors. I did have a poke around and my area continues to be a dearth of 2nd hand stuff, I'm going to keep my eye more closely on freecycle though.
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Im jealous of your new toys. I know your situation is completely different than mine as I'm in the US but is be very wary about buying a used air compressor as most people are selling theirs probably because they dont use it (sweet!) or it's not holding air (because they never empty it). Dont forget to put a drop of oil in your tools regularly and empty your air compressors after every use. Obviously grab anything if the price is that right. Dont quote me to tell me you dont need to I know someone wants to, you do. Stop being lazy!
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:Im jealous of your new toys. I know your situation is completely different than mine as I'm in the US but is be very wary about buying a used air compressor as most people are selling theirs probably because they dont use it (sweet!) or it's not holding air (because they never empty it). Dont forget to put a drop of oil in your tools regularly and empty your air compressors after every use. Obviously grab anything if the price is that right. Yeah I'm always a little wary of buying a used tool when I'm not already familiar with those tools. I've ordered a new compressor from Screwfix and I'll be picking it up tomorrow. I should up my oil game in general, tbh.
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It won't blow your poo poo up spectacularly if you don't use it right away but you seem to be the type of person that likes to buy something and take care of it so I'd definitely grab a little bottle of air tool oil
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I don't know enough about jointers but $65 sounds crazy low for this. Am I just off? https://waco.craigslist.org/tls/d/kopperl-cleaned-out-the-shop/6900299754.html
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Bob Mundon posted:I don't know enough about jointers but $65 sounds crazy low for this. Am I just off?
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Until looking around after I didn't realize how cheap bench top jointers were, probably cost that much just to replace the cutters. For light work are they too awful? Like this https://www.homedepot.com/p/WEN-6-Inch-10-Amp-Corded-Benchtop-Jointer-with-Filter-Bag-and-Depth-Scale-6559/308758986
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I have a WEN bandsaw and drill press. I regret my purchases.
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Had my eye on their drill press too, noted.
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:On the one hand, yes that is very cheap, on the other hand, it is covered in rust, isn’t very big, and definitely needs new knives. If you just need a jointer and don’t mind doing some restoration work and the motor and bearings are in good shape then that’s probably a good deal. After about a year scouring craigslist I've realized that decent jointers are out there but I will be doing some restoration. Sharpening knives are just done by taking it to pros yea? Are the machines tough to adjust and get right? I'll post the next one I find that looks alright and see what the consensus is.. I neeeeeed to start taking more wood down and drying it
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:After about a year scouring craigslist I've realized that decent jointers are out there but I will be doing some restoration. Sharpening knives are just done by taking it to pros yea? Are the machines tough to adjust and get right? I'll post the next one I find that looks alright and see what the consensus is.. I neeeeeed to start taking more wood down and drying it This book is a bit dry and dated-it's really a textbook for trade schools from when trade schools existed-but it's incredibly useful and a great reference useful that tells you how to do every sort of millwork and furniture from hand cutting dovetails to setting up shapers to make doors. It has the best description I've read of setting up and striking off a jointer, and you can get it for like $4 so there's no reason not to own it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0026759500/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Bob Mundon posted:I don't know enough about jointers but $65 sounds crazy low for this. Am I just off? I'd keep looking. Harry Potter on Ice posted:After about a year scouring craigslist I've realized that decent jointers are out there but I will be doing some restoration. Sharpening knives are just done by taking it to pros yea? Are the machines tough to adjust and get right? I'll post the next one I find that looks alright and see what the consensus is.. I neeeeeed to start taking more wood down and drying it 2 factors- getting the knives aligned, which there are magnetic jigs for- and then getting the beds set up with the knives. Or there's spiral helix cutters and I've no clue on those. I'd like to justify having one, but I can't. Outfeed table needs to be right on with the knives or you get either too shallow or end snipes, or worse if there's a slant. Both bad. So it's a bit of tweaking. Once you get it, you're good to go. I'm sure there's tutes for that.
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Would this be the right thread to ask - I'm interested in putting together a minimal automotive toolkit to have on hand. I'm not going to be taking engines apart, but being able to comfortably change tires/oil would be nice. I'm starting from scratch, if that helps.
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Gyshall posted:Would this be the right thread to ask - I'm interested in putting together a minimal automotive toolkit to have on hand. I'm not going to be taking engines apart, but being able to comfortably change tires/oil would be nice. There may well be people in here who can help but since you don't need to go deep on researching the specific tools you buy, you might do better in the quick questions thread in AI, hopefully they can give you a quick shopping list (if there's not one in their FAQs already).
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Gyshall posted:Would this be the right thread to ask - I'm interested in putting together a minimal automotive toolkit to have on hand. I'm not going to be taking engines apart, but being able to comfortably change tires/oil would be nice. If you have an American make vehicle, I’d invest in a set of Metric and SAE sockets from Harbor Freight (3/8” drive is fine), a half-inch drive ratchet or breaker bar with 17mm, 18mm, 7/8” or 11/16” sockets (whichever is your car’s lugnut size) and an oil filter removal tool. You might be able to get by with metric only if you have a foreign make. Also, if you have enough money to burn, get a decent torque wrench to ensure your wheels are torqued correctly, like this from Amazon. (The reason I’m not saying it’s mandatory is that it’s entirely possible to muscle down your lugnuts just fine without a torque wrench, but it’s not the “right” way to do it and you can possibly gently caress up your lugs if you gorilla it on there, or have a wheel fall off if it isn’t tight enough which is no fun.) The problem is that I don’t know what you’re driving and how much of a pain in the dick it is to get the oil filter, so in some cases an oil filter wrench like this is fine if you have lots of room around the filter itself, but sometimes you are better off with a socket-cap-style wrench that uses an extension and a ratchet to knock it off. Again, all depends on the make/model and the oil filter size. Finally, get a decent floor jack and jack stands. Yes, you need jack stands, never, ever, ever trust the floor jack alone. Harbor Freight makes okay models of everything so just get a coupon and nab whatever has the lift capacity for your vehicle. Just keep in mind there’s no such thing as being too paranoid when you’re sticking your head under the car. Edit: if you have a Subaru or other car with an oil filter on top of the engine, and all you want to do is just change the oil, the Topsider fluid evacuator pump is absolutely wonderful to use. It’s relatively expensive, yes, but it prevents a big mess and makes it a lot less obvious you’re working on your car if you live in an apartment complex or another place where that sort of thing is frowned upon. Not climbing under the car is also a really nice thing on a hot or cold day. funeral home DJ fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Jun 3, 2019 |
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Thanks goons!
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Picked up the compressor yesterday and some accessories arrived today, so I've spent a few minutes refreshing my memory on how everything works. I guess I need to pick up some adapters for whatever length of long hose it was that arrived, but otherwise everything seems fine. It's extremely loving loud. I've been using canned compressed air to clean things for a while and gosh this is a revelation.
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Jaded Burnout posted:Picked up the compressor yesterday and some accessories arrived today, so I've spent a few minutes refreshing my memory on how everything works. Get a couple 2x4s and go to town with the nail gun. Get it out of your system before you start work otherwise you will put 3(0) nails where 1 is needed.
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JEEVES420 posted:Get a couple 2x4s and go to town with the nail gun. Get it out of your system before you start work otherwise you will put 3(0) nails where 1 is needed. Nail guns are still a week or so away.
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Yea you'll get it dialed in for what you're doing so it kicks on less, between that and being in another room you'll only hear it when you start it (and you leave to get something else ready) and a couple times working. New air compressor day sounds awesome drat JEEVES420 posted:Get a couple 2x4s and go to town with the nail gun. Get it out of your system before you start work otherwise you will put 3(0) nails where 1 is needed. Oh lol right. Bump... bump.... bapbapbap and the board end splits
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Jaded Burnout posted:Nail guns are still a week or so away. You might want to wait on getting the adaptors until then, although a 1/4" male outlet is pretty standard on nailers.
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Mr. Mambold posted:You might want to wait on getting the adaptors until then, although a 1/4" male outlet is pretty standard on nailers. Yeah. The accessories I have and tank are all quick release, the 15m hose has 1/4" BSP. The guns *look* like they have the same quick fit fittings but I guess we'll see when they arrive.
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Jaded Burnout posted:Yeah. The accessories I have and tank are all quick release, the 15m hose has 1/4" BSP. The guns *look* like they have the same quick fit fittings but I guess we'll see when they arrive. You need someone to modify your AV so the cat is nailing with both paws
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Jaded Burnout posted:Yeah. The accessories I have and tank are all quick release, the 15m hose has 1/4" BSP. The guns *look* like they have the same quick fit fittings but I guess we'll see when they arrive. If the hoses don't come with the quick-release on them (mine didn't), you'll also want to grab some teflon tape to make the seal air-tight.
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SouthShoreSamurai posted:If the hoses don't come with the quick-release on them (mine didn't), you'll also want to grab some teflon tape to make the seal air-tight. I would presume that the BSP connectors would do that, but I have plumbers' tape I can use.
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Butch Cassidy posted:I absolutely Makita's bumped up the list just behind a second string trimmer. Ryobi released the magic blue smoke while ripping a scrap board to level one wall of a raised garden bed, today. Was a pretty chill moment with Galactic streaming on the boombox. Grabbed my wife's to finish the cut because I wasn't feeling the handsaw and certainly not laying out a cord to haul out the proper circular saw for 18 more inches.
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JEEVES420 posted:Should have started with the proper circular saw I honestly don't know if that's an anti-kick feature in that saw, but if you have the blade tightened in there, I'd reckon it is. I wouldn't think using a speed square would have anything to do with binding. You can generally hear the difference when a motor is dying or brushes are bad, sometimes you'll smell the blue smoke leaving it. Wet lumber like that can be very bindy, grabby, but I don't know all the particulars why that is.
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Mr. Mambold posted:Wet lumber like that can be very bindy, grabby, but I don't know all the particulars why that is. At a guess, there's a lot of fibers that want to expand (because of their water content), but cannot because they're surrounded by other fibers. Cutting into the board means there's now room to expand, so they do, binding the blade in the process.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:At a guess, there's a lot of fibers that want to expand (because of their water content), but cannot because they're surrounded by other fibers. Cutting into the board means there's now room to expand, so they do, binding the blade in the process. I was speculating something like that where the heat does magical fiber weirdness except green wood cuts way easier than dried lumber..... also he's crosscutting so I think that dents your theory. Pine can be sappy, idk.
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JEEVES420 posted:Should have started with the proper circular saw Are you cutting off small pieces from the end? A quick way to check if its a bind or not is to support the end or cut a bigger piece off. If its the action I'm thinking of it just comes from a bind because you're taking off an inch, it happens all the time at the end of a cut when I brace a 2x4 against my thigh to take some off (the board not my leg)
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I am supporting the cut off with one hand while holding the speed square at the same time, saw in other hand with board supported on something. I wouldn't doubt I am flexing the cut off side on some cuts. These are ground contact pressure treated 2x6s still wet to the touch from the MCA (nasty poo poo to work with). I was more curious about the motor still spinning when the blade isn't as I can't recall ever having this saw bind up before. Interesting feature if it is designed to do that, I will have to look at the model number and do some research.
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Using too fine toothed a sawblade or a dull one might cause it too. You want something that makes a substantially larger kerf than the blade thickness. Dealing with pressure treated stuff just sucks generally. Wet/green wood does cut much more easily than dry wood with the right tools. Trying to use a fine dovetail saw in wet wood is going to make you sad, but you can breeze right through it with big ole teeth that would choke on dry wood.
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