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Jewel Repetition posted:It's not more literal than what you said it just makes more sense have u heard of humor
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Jun 12, 2019 16:58
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Just got this book and am reading it: I like the cut of the author's jib (and it's only about a hundred pages long so perfect for my broken, podcast-addled brain). I've been used to thinking that no one ever changes their mind because of arguments but I think the author has a point that as much as it never happens that people change their minds "in the room" as you ANNIHILATE their brainholes, after an incubation period it might make them rethink some things as it simmers in the back of their heads. It's also got some concrete examples of arguments that make no sense, and some excerpts from Shapiro's book on owning the left so you can spot if somebody's read his book and are trying that out on you.
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Jun 12, 2019 17:13
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Grevling posted:Just got this book and am reading it: pretty much all my political development was done by getting owned and not realizing it until later
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Jun 12, 2019 17:14
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Grevling posted:Just got this book and am reading it: I'm glad it shows that Shapiro is a hobbit manlet
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Jun 12, 2019 17:22
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owns that Discourse is a turn based RPG where participants are outfitted with a finite set of attacks and counters provided by debatemasters
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Jun 12, 2019 17:26
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Serf posted:have u heard of humor What I said was also humor
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Jun 12, 2019 17:43
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Jewel Repetition posted:What I said was also humor Please laugh
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Jun 12, 2019 17:44
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Jewel Repetition posted:What I said was also humor well, this is funny lol
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Jun 12, 2019 17:48
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:it would be most fitting to probe everyone equally, and finally we all rest one probation is a tragedy; a million, a statistic
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Jun 12, 2019 17:52
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Serf posted:well, this is funny lol The idea of somebody saying there should be less free speech and an ik going "ok, here you go" is funny to me
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Jun 12, 2019 17:52
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Grevling posted:Just got this book and am reading it: That is the impression I always got when I did tabling for and someone came up looking for a debate, or curious yet skeptical liberals asked some questions. I would usually present them with a line of argument or a perspective they had never heard before (how many Americans have ever heard Marxist ideas expressed plainly?) and whether or not they confessed any sympathy for the ideas, it was often obvious that the seeds of doubt were planted.
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Jun 12, 2019 17:53
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:it would be most fitting to probe everyone equally, and finally we all rest You are an incompetent mod in any case so I guess erring on the side of caution wouldn't make much of a difference.
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Jun 12, 2019 17:56
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Grevling posted:Just got this book and am reading it: the last popular book about logic and politics i have heard about was stefan molyneux's, which couldnt even get the definitions of validity and soundness right. so im glad someone who seems to have a background in philosophy/logic is trying to write a decent book on the topic. i just found this podcast featuring an i terview about the book. posting it here in case anyone else wants to listen http://zero-books.net/blogs/zero/zero-squared-180-give-them-an-argument/
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Jun 12, 2019 17:58
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Mr. Lobe posted:That is the impression I always got when I did tabling for and someone came up looking for a debate, or curious yet skeptical liberals asked some questions. I would usually present them with a line of argument or a perspective they had never heard before (how many Americans have ever heard Marxist ideas expressed plainly?) and whether or not they confessed any sympathy for the ideas, it was often obvious that the seeds of doubt were planted. Yeah you're unlikely to convince right wingers or deep-brained D&D style liberals, but people who are just vaguely left/liberal are amenable to socialist ideas a lot of the time. Also libertarians, which might seem counter-intuitive but it's because they simultaneously worship debate and reason but are woefully uninformed about economics and history
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Jun 12, 2019 17:58
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Jewel Repetition posted:The idea of somebody saying there should be less free speech and an ik going "ok, here you go" is funny to me yes, because you're deeply stupid
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Jun 12, 2019 17:59
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Plutonis posted:incompetent mod the best kind...
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Jun 12, 2019 18:00
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Karl Barks posted:the best kind... That would be the invisible one
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Jun 12, 2019 18:02
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Most libertarians pride themselves on being smarter about economics than leftists, and also don't know what capital is
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Jun 12, 2019 18:03
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Finicums Wake posted:the last popular book about logic and politics i have heard about was stefan molyneux's, which couldnt even get the definitions of validity and soundness right. so im glad someone who seems to have a background in philosophy/logic is trying to write a decent book on the topic. i just found this podcast featuring an i terview about the book. posting it here in case anyone else wants to listen There is a lot of good stuff from Zero Books, both books and podcasts. Really recommend checking them out if you're starved for theory that isn't 50+ years old. A good place to start is their Youtube channel, their videos are kind of trippy and hard to follow at first since it's made by philosophers but if I can get something out of it I think anyone can.
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Jun 12, 2019 18:11
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Raskolnikov38 posted:one probation is a tragedy; a million, a statistic for you the day i probed the entire dead gay LF thread was the most important day in your life. for me... it was.. tuesday.
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Jun 12, 2019 18:14
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Serf posted:pretty much all my political development was done by getting owned and not realizing it until later hell, same
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Jun 12, 2019 18:30
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Serf posted:nah man if you're out in the street advocating for a white nationalist movement, the only thing you should be met with is a metal pipe to the dome and a shallow ditch grave
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Jun 12, 2019 19:06
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Plutonis posted:You are an incompetent mod in any case so I guess erring on the side of caution wouldn't make much of a difference. being a competent mod would be boring
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Jun 12, 2019 20:05
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9PbMx9l3Ps https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_9PbMx9l3Ps Finicums Wake fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Jun 12, 2019 |
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Jun 12, 2019 20:39
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Finicums Wake posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9PbMx9l3Ps lovin dons canadian accent
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Jun 12, 2019 20:48
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Jun 12, 2019 22:11
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Postoyevsky posted:lovin dons canadian accent same. and some other stuff about the podcast. i had posted earlier (maybe itt?) that it was bad, but that was only after a few episodes had been aired. it has gotten better since, so i recant my previous statemenet. in my official capacity as a cspam poster, i hereby endorse You Can't Win
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Jun 13, 2019 00:56
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Serf posted:pretty much all my political development was done by getting owned and not realizing it until later being the most owned man of the entire general election in c-spam turned me into a commie
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Jun 13, 2019 01:25
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Venom Snake posted:being the most owned man of the entire general election in c-spam turned me into a commie Watching you lose your goddamn mind on election night was fun
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Jun 13, 2019 02:13
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watching the same insane moderate democrat posters go through the same rationalizations for why we need less radical solutions post-2016. today. donald trump being president. after all this poo poo already happened, is a real trip
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Jun 13, 2019 02:27
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Dreddout posted:Watching you lose your goddamn mind on election night was fun while my life sucks really loving hard rn, it's still not as bad as that part. my girlfriend left me, my computers power supply exploded, and trump won all within the space of like 2 weeks lol edit: legit now that it's a few years (centuries?) behind me I can laugh at it but that conflux of events changed me a lot as a person. Venom Snake fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Jun 13, 2019 |
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Jun 13, 2019 02:42
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Venom Snake posted:while my life sucks really loving hard rn, it's still not as bad as that part. my girlfriend left me, my computers power supply exploded, and trump won all within the space of like 2 weeks lol in a just world, trump would have exploded, your girlfriend would have been president, and you would have left your computer
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Jun 13, 2019 02:44
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Venom Snake posted:while my life sucks really loving hard rn, it's still not as bad as that part. my girlfriend left me, my computers power supply exploded, and trump won all within the space of like 2 weeks lol drat dude. My gf and I got in a bad car accident where her car was totaled and then my parents’ house burned down all in the same month as Trump getting elected so I feel you
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Jun 13, 2019 02:44
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Jun 13, 2019 02:47
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Venom Snake posted:while my life sucks really loving hard rn, it's still not as bad as that part. my girlfriend left me, my computers power supply exploded, and trump won all within the space of like 2 weeks lol Owned
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Jun 13, 2019 02:51
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Pablo Nergigante posted:drat dude. My gf and I got in a bad car accident where her car was totaled and then my parents’ house burned down all in the same month as Trump getting elected so I feel you
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Jun 13, 2019 02:55
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anybody know anything about the book "scientific management, socialist discipline, and soviet power" by mark beissinger. came across it while looking up information on the five year plans
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Jun 13, 2019 02:57
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https://twitter.com/Anthony/status/1138072396160733185 Trump is actually good, folks
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i refuse to believe that real life events happen to the posters here or that any of you are even human
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