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Plastic_Gargoyle
Aug 3, 2007

I was already probably not going to bother watching this, but what I've seen said about it so far, I'm actively avoiding watching this on Netflix, holy gently caress.

I'll keep my fond memories of watching bits and pieces of the ADV dub on the Anime Network.


("The First Children"...fucks sake, even if that was forced in by the Japanese, someone should have found the balls to tell them how absurd it sounds in actual English.)

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Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
the scene where Shinji barges into Rei's apartment actually low-key owns, because the whole point of it is that Rei doesn't regard him sexually at all and the entire thing just makes it impossible for them to talk to each other normally until a few episodes later

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Endorph posted:

its more like youre taking someone to a burger restaurant and telling them to eat the bottom bun, the lettuce, a hot dog, and then a second, different burger

lol, sorry I guess


Expect My Mom posted:

It feels like someone is trying to show someone Twin Peaks and they're like 'Just skip all of Season 2" no, gently caress that man! That's what that show is, it's James living in a woman's attic and a weird Civil War subplot, don't try to cover it up


This is a more apt description because you desperately want to skip season 2 of TP but you probably shouldn't.

Heroic Yoshimitsu
Jan 15, 2008

Oh yeah, EVA just went on netflix huh? I’ve never seen the show before, I’m very interested in trying it now.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

SHISHKABOB posted:

"pretty much get it"

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

AFancyQuestionMark
Feb 19, 2017

Long time no see.

Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:

Oh yeah, EVA just went on netflix huh? I’ve never seen the show before, I’m very interested in trying it now.

From all accounts the new translation seems to be much worse, so you might want to track down the original version instead

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

the scene where Shinji barges into Rei's apartment actually low-key owns, because the whole point of it is that Rei doesn't regard him sexually at all and the entire thing just makes it impossible for them to talk to each other normally until a few episodes later
It also makes it all the more surprising when Rei actually does get mad at Shinji later in that same episode where she slaps him for dissing Gendo.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
Eh, I don't have any qualms with telling people to watch Rebuild 1 instead of the first few episodes if they're not sure about the series. I actually like the pacing there better than I do 1-6.

Meanwhile apparently the PTBR dub made all the silly localization changes the English dub lost, loads of modern slang and poo poo.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
/\/\/\/\/\High five

I'll walk it back to: If you're new, watch Rebuild 1 and if you feel like you could sit through 10 hours of it looking sort of worse and diverging off into some very 90's anime stuff at times go watch the tv show.

AFancyQuestionMark
Feb 19, 2017

Long time no see.

Intel&Sebastian posted:

I'll walk it back to: If you're new, watch Rebuild 1 and if you feel like you could sit through 10 hours of it looking sort of worse and diverging off into some very 90's anime stuff at times go watch the tv show.

Actually, don't do that and just watch the show instead, like me earlier this year. It doesn't really feel aged in any particular way.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Rebuild 1 is the show but better. Sadly the others are not the show, but may still be better.

EthanSteele
Nov 18, 2007

I can hear you
The rebuild movies are generally held as best experienced after you've seen the show so you can see the divergences. Why settle for "pretty much get it" when they can just "actually get it"?

Watching the rebuilds when you want to watch some Evangelion... could it be that you saw the TV series first and you've got such a grasp of Eva that you can just watch the movies and that's fine but maybe that's not a good way to introduce people to the thing?

I dunno though, it feels like when 100% of the thread (oops, 100% minus one guy who says movie 1 and then tv series) is telling you that your thing is weird it might mean your thing is weird.

AFancyQuestionMark
Feb 19, 2017

Long time no see.

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Rebuild 1 is the show but better. Sadly the others are not the show, but may still be better.

This person is wrong. Do not listen to this person.

Modus Pwnens
Dec 29, 2004

Intel&Sebastian posted:

/\/\/\/\/\High five

I'll walk it back to: If you're new, watch Rebuild 1 and if you feel like you could sit through 10 hours of it looking sort of worse and diverging off into some very 90's anime stuff at times go watch the tv show.

I mean this thread is in ADTRW so we probably don't need to hem and haw over watching anime.

Evangelion is really good and I'm sorry I put off watching it until this year.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

I think I've said this before but the Adam/Lilith stuff in the show is confusing enough as it is without throwing Rebuild 1's explicitly different take on that whole plotline into the mix.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
there's no Dance Like You Want to Win in Rebuild

just imagine the kind of monster who would cheat people out of that

Modus Pwnens
Dec 29, 2004

Raxivace posted:

I think I've said this before but the Adam/Lilith stuff in the show is confusing enough as it is without throwing Rebuild 1's explicitly different take on that whole plotline into the mix.

Everything is confusing enough without mixing up continuities.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
Rebuild is also extremely The Ikari Shinji Show and leaves out a lot of the Misato-centric stuff which, while it's reasonable for a movie to be more focused than a TV series, is a pretty major sacrifice of something interesting and worthwhile

especially if you're watching it for the first time as an adult

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Yeah that’s the biggest problem with the movies for me, they are more focused and condensed. Which it has to be because movies but you lose a lot for that

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
I mean

im sorry im ruining the purity of depressed boy murders the world anime

but if someone says "eh it looks kinda old?" i'm okay pointing them to something that really doesn't change much about the story if it means them giving it a chance

again sorry for anime crimes and poo poo

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I’m not sure who is making any of those points but go off I guess

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

CharlestheHammer posted:

Im not sure who is making any of those points but go off I guess

I'm not sure why you can't be arsed to read what's going on but go off I guess.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Dias posted:

I'm not sure why you can't be arsed to read what's going on but go off I guess.

I mean, I’m one of the people your getting mad about, well not with any argument I’m actually making but that’s my point.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

EthanSteele posted:

The rebuild movies are generally held as best experienced after you've seen the show so you can see the divergences. Why settle for "pretty much get it" when they can just "actually get it"?

Watching the rebuilds when you want to watch some Evangelion... could it be that you saw the TV series first and you've got such a grasp of Eva that you can just watch the movies and that's fine but maybe that's not a good way to introduce people to the thing?

I dunno though, it feels like when 100% of the thread (oops, 100% minus one guy who says movie 1 and then tv series) is telling you that your thing is weird it might mean your thing is weird.

If you're already down for watching a ton of stuff and know you've got 90s tv anime (one of the best ones, too) and all that entails coming to you? Watch it all.

Not sure if you're gonna be into Eva and want to watch the best version of it? Rebuild 1
-> didn't like it? you're done
-> like it a lot? watch the series
-> like it but not enough to watch a worse, longer version and don't really care that you won't be able to post online all day about it with weirdo nerds? watch the rest of the Rebuilds

Want to be a weirdo who just reads the end of a novel with a really really good ending? Watch EOE raw :getin:

:colbert:

Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jun 21, 2019

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

CharlestheHammer posted:

I mean, Im one of the people your getting mad about

So you know who's making them points, huh. Great.

I'm just saying I've HAD some of those conversations where people asked about Rebirth and there's literally a post saying "it's weird you're saying that" post a couple of posts above mine.

AFancyQuestionMark
Feb 19, 2017

Long time no see.

Dias posted:

I mean

im sorry im ruining the purity of depressed boy murders the world anime

but if someone says "eh it looks kinda old?" i'm okay pointing them to something that really doesn't change much about the story if it means them giving it a chance

again sorry for anime crimes and poo poo

Sorry, but rules are rules. We are taking you in for premeditated incitement to rebellion against the received wisdom of anime.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

AFancyQuestionMark posted:

Sorry, but rules are rules. We are taking you in for premeditated incitement to rebellion against the received wisdom of anime.

Watch Rebirth 1.0, Rebirth 2.0, then watch 25-26, then Rebirth 3.0 then EoE, . That's the best watching order.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
Just don’t listen to these two bad posters. Just watch the original show and then EOE and then Rebuild. The show is legit good idk why the gently caress you would want to skip it.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

if someone doesnt want to watch eva because it looks old i dont think watching a movie and then going back to the thing would fix that issue

and also why are we arguing about hypothetical people hypothetically watching eva for the first time who might exist, somewhere, maybe

AFancyQuestionMark
Feb 19, 2017

Long time no see.

Dias posted:

Watch Rebirth 1.0, Rebirth 2.0, then watch 25-26, then Rebirth 3.0 then EoE, . That's the best watching order.

Stop! Someone seize this man before it's too late!

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Endorph posted:

if someone doesnt want to watch eva because it looks old i dont think watching a movie and then going back to the thing would fix that issue

and also why are we arguing about hypothetical people hypothetically watching eva for the first time who might exist, somewhere, maybe

I legit had those conversations a handful of times, I think now with good transfers on Netflix it's gonna be a non-issue TBF, but I got a friend of mine to watch it because they got hooked on the premise with Rebirth and could look past the bad rips available of the old show. Another one wasn't that interested even after that.

that's a real person really watching eva for the first time existing here in brazil 400km from where i live, definitely

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

AFancyQuestionMark
Feb 19, 2017

Long time no see.

Endorph posted:

if someone doesnt want to watch eva because it looks old i dont think watching a movie and then going back to the thing would fix that issue

and also why are we arguing about hypothetical people hypothetically watching eva for the first time who might exist, somewhere, maybe

Someone posted that they wanted to watch it now that it's on Netflix just on the last page. I myself watched it for the first time this year, even without knowing anything about a Netflix version.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

https://twitter.com/OXlACID/status/1142081343926546432

and yeah the love thing seems like a company policy not an individual translator thing, so no point going after the english translator on twitter

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Dias posted:

Watch Rebirth 1.0, Rebirth 2.0, then watch 25-26, then Rebirth 3.0 then EoE, . That's the best watching order.

:yeshaha:

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
I figured that modern Eva discourse would be this but basically not ironic

https://twitter.com/leslieleeiii/status/1133594327777779712?s=19

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Is anyone actually doing that or is this one of those things where people want it to be that so they can be mad

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Fabricated posted:

I figured that modern Eva discourse would be this but basically not ironic

https://twitter.com/leslieleeiii/status/1133594327777779712?s=19

lmfao

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

Endorph posted:

https://twitter.com/OXlACID/status/1142081343926546432

and yeah the love thing seems like a company policy not an individual translator thing, so no point going after the english translator on twitter

The english translator had a lot of opinions about how terrible the UN is and how there can’t be anime child porn because anime is not real, so maybe go after him, but make sure to mention it’s not about Evangelion

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

This is the first time I've seen NGE since way back when it was on Adult Swim and so far nothing in the resubbing has been as annoying as "Ms. Misato"

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Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

CharlestheHammer posted:

Is anyone actually doing that or is this one of those things where people want it to be that so they can be mad

No ones going to do it..........but they should :smugdog:

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