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Endorph posted:https://twitter.com/OXlACID/status/1142081343926546432 Holy poo poo LMAO!!!!!
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edit: ugh, emptyquoted on accident but since I'm here, what episode is that Kaworu cap from, I wanna see how they subbed it in PTBR
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bring back old gbs posted:rofl clicked this guys account and noped at the pinned tweet Googled this dude and yikes https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/27/japan-urged-to-ban-manga-child-abuse-images
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Ah, here, I actually just skimmed 24 a bit and found it: They kept "I love you" both in the subs and in the dub.
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whats up nerds, is there a list somewhere of translations of the on-screen text? watching this for the first time and i would like to know what the things say
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Dias posted:Ah, here, I actually just skimmed 24 a bit and found it: Uh, maybe it's region-specific, then? This is what's on Netflix if I set it to Spanish (in the US): 
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Basically, either Anno himself or someone high up at Gainax/Khara was in attendance at the US premiere of the 3.0 dub. They were apparently not familiar with how rowdy Americans can get in movie theaters, especially nerds at a nerd dedicated showing, so when the audience had crowd reactions to various scenes (including bursting into laughter at the piano sequence) it spooked the hell out of them. this, coupled with disagreement on some of the artistic licenses taken with the localization, caused Gainax to immediately demand that 3.0 be completely redubbed with a new script.
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People really dislike Asuka, huh. And not in like a, "I don't like her character" but "I'm going to cheer when she gets strangled as comeuppance", huh? When I first moved to Melbourne, there was a screening of 1.0 and 2.0 in the Japanese consulate in the CBD. Figuring it would be a way to meet new people (lol), I went. It was a small screening, but everyone was well behaved during. We even got to meet Yūko Miyamura, who lives in Melbourne! She heard there was a screening and decided to turn up with her kids! She joked that she had to take them out of the room when the movie started playing else they might see something that would scar them for life. Anyway, some people are hosed up. Don't carry on during a cinematic viewing you philistines!
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Uh, maybe it's region-specific, then? This is what's on Netflix if I set it to Spanish (in the US): Oh, that's from the PTBR version, not the Spanish one. I was just wondering if everyone got told to "cut down on the gay".
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cheering Asuka's death is hosed up but if the piano scene in Rebuild isn't meant to be funny then I don't even know what to think
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Based on what the promotional rollout for this was like, people internally at Netflix definitely saw this disaster coming. I presume there's no Fly Me to the Moon because the licensor knew what they had and asked for a big number, which made somebody at Netflix big mad over so much $$ for a lesser known Sinatra song. I also mostly believe the "Studio Khara meddled with the script to try to sanitize it" theory because that seems like simplest explanation based on the long history of shenanigans in anime localization. I wonder if we'll hear that the script and performances that made it past final edits were not the first attempts.
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Fabricated posted:I figured that modern Eva discourse would be this but basically not ironic Well, I am starting to see takes like these, so... https://twitter.com/brOrayn/status/1142182399285112833
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Unlucky7 posted:Well, I am starting to see takes like these, so... 
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Unlucky7 posted:Well, I am starting to see takes like these, so... 
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Jun 21, 2019 23:19
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Shame that Netflix screwed this one up. Maybe they'll clean up the script once it goes to blu ray? Would hate to have it finally come on blu ray only to lack the old dub and have the subs remove any reference to Kaworus love. Someone mentioned Funimation having to completely rewrite the dub script for EVA 3.0. Does anyone know what the old script was like? Been a while since I rewatched the dub but I vaguely recall the script being a bit stiff in places. Unlucky7 posted:Well, I am starting to see takes like these, so... The hell is this? Wow.
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Jun 21, 2019 23:24
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I'm not sure how you wrangle Pacific Rim in there.
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"Film critic hulk" Truth be told, dub watchers, actually no, EVA fans deserve this
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Honestly anyone posting about it right now is either someone who has engaged with Eva before, someone who’s live-tweeting a watch, or someone who has no idea what they’re talking about. It’s gonna be like a week or so before we start getting takes from people who watched it for the first time and sat with it a few days.
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how did tiny studio platinum games get fmttm for worldwide release in bayonetta but media megacorp netflix couldnt
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Jun 21, 2019 23:40
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These takes are really the Dark Souls of Film Critics. https://twitter.com/_TronVin_/status/1142080715414298624
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Motto posted:I'm not sure how you wrangle Pacific Rim in there. I remember with the first Pacific Rim Trailer people were totally thinking it was some sort of US Eva movie. Hell the tagline fits more with Eva then Pacific Rim Proper.
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Jun 21, 2019 23:41
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I like this thread, it's worthy of my grace
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https://twitter.com/jennyyangat/status/1142132321870594048?s=20
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Whens the criterion blu-ray for EoE E:  so I guess it was just the japanese side loving up the localization 
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Mods please change my name to Four-Eyed Crony, TIA.
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Asuka shoulda just called Mari a fuckin nerd
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Awhile back Netflix did a dub, then quietly replaced it with a different one after some time. I forget what show it was though. Maybe they'll do that (and give the script a new pass) for this one. probably not
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a kitten posted:Awhile back Netflix did a dub, then quietly replaced it with a different one after some time. I forget what show it was though. The show was AICO. It lead to Netflix saying that only these dub studios can dub for Netflix shows to the production company.
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I’m watching the first ep right now, and the Dub honestly sounds fine. I really don’t get what the complaints are.
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Droppin in to say the new dub is real bad. Is this an experimental text-to-speech algorithm to generate dubs but version 1.0 doesn't know how to speak in anything but monotone?
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lol if they have the rights to the original why can't they offer them as an audio option? Music stuff?
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Nyeehg posted:Someone mentioned Funimation having to completely rewrite the dub script for EVA 3.0. Does anyone know what the old script was like? Been a while since I rewatched the dub but I vaguely recall the script being a bit stiff in places. I saw Evangelion 3.0 when it got a limited release in theaters with this original 3.0 dub. What came out later on BluRay is different. I don't think there was anything particularly WRONG with it. What stands out most in my memory was how nearly every single one of Kaworu's lines came across like a double entedre. Almost like it was poking fun at Kaworu's perceived homosexuality. And you better believe lines like "double entry system" got huge laughs from the audience I saw it with. That bit of frustration aside, I'm not exactly an expert on what goes on in translating a Japanese language script in to spoken English, but I can offer my speculations. Evangelion 3.0 was a huge divergence from the established Eva formula and my impression is the English language line producers pretty much had to work out for themselves what to do with the ambiguities presented by the new confusing scenario. Anyone from the Japanese side of things was probably not forthcoming, unwilling to clarify, or simply didn't know the intent behind some decisions. What we got were interpretations of the characters primarily informed by the mannerisms of the actors that had voiced those characters in English for nearly twenty years at that point. Shinji was extra whiny, Asuka was extra bitchy, and Kaworu was extra gay. Despite my hyperbole, I think the actors did a good job on that first dub and nothing really stands out in my mind as particularly awful. What is clear is that some at Khara objected to it. While we'll probably never be certain on the reasons, the Funimation BluRay got delayed again and again while the Japanese and English sides went back and forth on "fixing" the dub. Some one earlier speculated that the US fan reaction to the film frightened Khara representatives in attendance and I think that's a reasonable speculation. You don't want people nervously laughing at THE GAYS when Shinji and Kaworu's interactions in that film represent one of the most heartfelt and sincere relationships in the entire franchise. Sometimes nerds will be nerds and there's no accounting how certain members of your audience are going to react. My two cents. I'm mostly a subs guy so take my speculation on dubs with a grain of salt. e: Tiffany Grant's above statements are on point. Sometimes these studios mettle in matters that they don't know anything about and you get an inferior product. I remember one her lines referring to Shinji from the original 3.0 dub: "He's not a brat. He's an rear end in a top hat." Expertly delivered. Console Role Player fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Jun 22, 2019 |
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read that as mostly a subs gay at least 3 times
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is that 3.0 OG dub still floating around?
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Not to my knowledge. Rotting away on a hard drive at Funimation HQ.
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The_Rob posted:I’m watching the first ep right now, and the Dub honestly sounds fine. I really don’t get what the complaints are. It’ll become more apparent in episode 2. When you get to the more comical scenes you’ll notice they just don’t work thanks to the lovely script.
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J-Spot posted:It’ll become more apparent in episode 2. When you get to the more comical scenes you’ll notice they just don’t work thanks to the lovely script. I just got to episode 3. It’s really not bad at all.
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