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Mr. Mambold posted:You mean........like these?
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Aug 28, 2019 21:09
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Mr. Mambold posted:You mean........like these? Wellll, not exactly? I don't want the magnet to physically contact the knife blade, so my plan is to use very strong neodymium magnets and very thin wood veneer to hide them. Also, I don't want to make cutouts exactly specifically matching each knife, because I might change what knives I attach to it. And, it needs to hang on a wall, and I want to have a redundantly safe system that doesn't purely rely on magnets, so I'm thinking kind of a little lip that catches the tip at the top, and a shelfy thing that the handle rests on at the bottom, and then the magnet to hold the knife firmly in place. This would also make it easier to clean than say a knife block or something with recesses the knives fit into. I have an alternate idea in which the blade would go into the wood, spines and handles out, but still not contact a magnet. that would not be as easy to clean, but would also keep the sharp edges entirely concealed so no chance of slicing your fingers up when you absent-mindedly reach for a knife and miss your target.
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Aug 28, 2019 21:19
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Bad Munki posted:What's the penny for? Please don't say my thoughts, I don't want to rip anyone off. It's a Japanese superstition tied to a TL:DR legend of custom knives from the 60's. I hope you can read this, it's a bit blurry. I stumbled across a set some years back a guy wanted to trade for a nice guitar. So I traded him a very fine aria Pro II LP copy I loved looking at, but hardly played. You can find these in the wild on occasion for chump change because no one knows how good they are or what they're worth. I use these knives every day.  Leperflesh posted:Wellll, not exactly? I don't want the magnet to physically contact the knife blade, so my plan is to use very strong neodymium magnets and very thin wood veneer to hide them. I think those surround rings are what contact the knives. You have to make sure you lay it in on contact because there's not a lot of attraction. But, I like your idea too.
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Aug 28, 2019 21:30
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Mr. Mambold posted:I think those surround rings are what contact the knives. You have to make sure you lay it in on contact because there's not a lot of attraction. But, I like your idea too. Yeah I want no metal contact because that tends to scar the face of the knife over time with little scratch-marks and that irritates me even though it's 100% cosmetic.
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Aug 28, 2019 22:31
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Saw this at the state fair. I appreciate the effort, but I think you went a liiiiiiiiittle overboard, my friend.
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Aug 28, 2019 22:47
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What the heck are those little stubs on the sides of the tabletop? Wedge tenons to hold it together? But then why are they also running lengthwise? The through tenon on that little backstop thing sitting on top of the tabletop also looks weird.
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Aug 28, 2019 22:50
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Looks like they are all locking joints, no glue or fasteners.
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Aug 28, 2019 22:54
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Leperflesh posted:Yeah I want no metal contact because that tends to scar the face of the knife over time with little scratch-marks and that irritates me even though it's 100% cosmetic. Mine are 50 years old and although I'm sure they weren't in use all that time, there's no marking.
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Aug 29, 2019 00:34
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 How do these through tenons work?
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Aug 29, 2019 01:58
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Leperflesh posted:
With pocket holes on the inside and blocks glued to the outside.
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Aug 29, 2019 01:59
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Leperflesh posted:
Yeah they don't. Someone just got the Greene & Greene book and didn't quiiiiite get it. Those bin pulls really aren't helping either.
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Aug 29, 2019 02:11
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If you look at the average state fair furniture competition a lot of the categories will have like 3 or 4 prizes for 5 or 6 entries
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Aug 29, 2019 02:22
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One is likely a peg through the other with a fat face to match.
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Aug 29, 2019 02:28
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Leperflesh posted:
That was what made me do a double take, then I saw the tenons from nowhere surrounding the top and I was like oh no no
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Aug 29, 2019 02:41
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Is woodworking one of those hobbies where once I leave the confines of SA and weird nerd CNC hobby stuff it's going to be baffling old man decisions all the way down?
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Aug 29, 2019 02:42
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shovelbum posted:Is woodworking one of those hobbies where once I leave the confines of SA and weird nerd CNC hobby stuff it's going to be baffling old man decisions all the way down? Basically yes. Go look at sawmill creek sometime if you want to read a lot of bad information and see some ugly furniture.
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Aug 29, 2019 02:55
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That's the only people who can fit a cabinet saw anywhere without having to have it make money
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Aug 29, 2019 03:24
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Leperflesh posted:Yeah I want no metal contact because that tends to scar the face of the knife over time with little scratch-marks and that irritates me even though it's 100% cosmetic. Can you get your strongass neodynwhatever magnets, but recess them a mil or two so there is still enough grab to hold the knife, but it physically cant touch it?
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Aug 29, 2019 03:36
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They sell ones that are wood with magnets inside so I'm guessing you can just put the magnets inside the wood because that's a product you can just go buy right now
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Aug 29, 2019 03:44
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NPR Journalizard posted:Can you get your strongass neodynwhatever magnets, but recess them a mil or two so there is still enough grab to hold the knife, but it physically cant touch it? The trick is holding the magnet in its little hole, and generally the easiest way to do that is to put something on top of the hole. I have had somewhat limited success in gluing magnets to wood, in the few times I've tried.
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Aug 29, 2019 04:05
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I'd just like hollow out a chunk of wood and stuff it full of magnets then stick knives to the wooden face. Like the thing you can buy
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Aug 29, 2019 04:08
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Actually I have some leftover smallish chunks of teak butcher block maybe I'll do this
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Aug 29, 2019 04:08
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You can absolutely recess a magnet, or you can put it under veneer like I'm thinking of doing, or this is also a product that exists: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078H5LBQV/ countersunk magnets! If you don't mind an exposed screw head. Or put a plug on it! Yeah there's tons of options, and I have some experience working with strong magnets from previous hobby stuff.
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Aug 29, 2019 06:23
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Leperflesh posted:Yeah I want no metal contact because that tends to scar the face of the knife over time with little scratch-marks and that irritates me even though it's 100% cosmetic. I made one of these a few years ago. I embedded magnets in a piece of plywood and then glued veneer over the top. My advice is to use a shitload of magnets. edit: https://instagram.com/p/BAI56AhlSG-/
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Aug 29, 2019 14:14
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A neighbor called and wants me to take down her "cherry tree". If I remember correctly these wild cherry in the PNW are different than east coat cherry, I'm pretty sure this is one of those flat, shiny bark variety. Jump on it or pass?
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Aug 29, 2019 15:09
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:A neighbor called and wants me to take down her "cherry tree". If I remember correctly these wild cherry in the PNW are different than east coat cherry, I'm pretty sure this is one of those flat, shiny bark variety. Jump on it or pass? How much do you like your neighbor? At worst you could use it to smoke some food and your neighbor will appreciate the help. If I'm remembering right, those Bitter Cherry trees aren't the same as the others, but I've never seen the inside of them, just the outside.
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Aug 29, 2019 15:18
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It might be a Japanese/Taiwanese/flowering cherry, or it might be a European cherry, or it might be a black cherry growing outside its native range. All are good wood, but I think the non-black cherry ones won’t be as red/dark as black cherry and may look more like pear wood. They all would carve very well as spoons or salad hands or w/e I bet.
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Aug 29, 2019 15:19
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Also the precedent of "if you cut down the tree for free you can have the wood for free as payment" is bad and wrong. Not saying don't do it if you want to be neighborly, but that's the scourge of the semi professional timber harvesting/mobile sawmilling business.
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Aug 29, 2019 16:55
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Well, I made a box for a drawer and it looks good! I just did my math wrong and it's too long.
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Aug 29, 2019 17:13
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Hypnolobster posted:Also the precedent of "if you cut down the tree for free you can have the wood for free as payment" is bad and wrong. Could you elaborate?
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Aug 29, 2019 17:14
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Jhet posted:Well, I made a box for a drawer and it looks good! Math once, dovetail twice.
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Aug 29, 2019 17:14
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too long is better than too short...maybe not for a drawer but in general you can always cut more off.
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Aug 29, 2019 17:21
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Jaded Burnout posted:Math once, dovetail twice. Everything else fits mostly great so far! I haven’t put the face on yet, so I don’t know where I was measuring from or what I missed. There are definitely benefits to at least roughing it out on a computer, but I’m just so slow at it.
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Aug 29, 2019 17:22
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How much extra length is there
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Aug 29, 2019 17:22
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Jhet posted:I haven’t put the face on yet, so I don’t know where I was measuring from or what I missed. There are definitely benefits to at least roughing it out on a computer, but I’m just so slow at it. I'm just joshing. I have to sketch out and/or mock up things a dozen times while making them because I can never keep the 3D transforms straight in my head. And I still cut things wrong sometimes.
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Aug 29, 2019 17:30
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Hypnolobster posted:Also the precedent of "if you cut down the tree for free you can have the wood for free as payment" is bad and wrong. Are you saying it's fine to cut down the tree your neighbor needs cut down if you're only doing it to be nice, and you just so happen to take the wood at the same time, but cutting down the tree your neighbor needs cut down and taking the wood is wrong, if the underlying reason you're doing it is for the wood? Jaded Burnout posted:Could you elaborate?
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Aug 29, 2019 17:41
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Mods change name to Sawmill Scourge because I will never stop cutting down trees that need to come down for my aunties in exchange for the wood instead of having them get taken by some random pro at their convenience Edit: I'm loving around I dont cut anything down for fun, everything is either blowdown or being cut by the owner anyway Harry Potter on Ice fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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Aug 29, 2019 17:52
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I think the issue here is that people think they're doing you a service by giving you the opportunity to take all this free wood, all you have to do is cut the tree down and haul all the bits away. Even if you get a lot of wood out of the tree, it's not free -- you're putting in a lot of labor and your neighbor is benefiting from the service you're providing more than you are from getting the wood. Tree services get the wood "for free" (i.e. part of the work contract is hauling the wood away), and make whatever money they can from it (usually AIUI by turning it into mulch). They certainly don't work for free, which suggests that the value of the wood is not that high. vvv yeah good point. There's a big difference between an old-growth redwood tree and a Bradford pear. TooMuchAbstraction fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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Aug 29, 2019 17:55
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On the other hand, many landowners make money by selling the rights to harvest some of their trees. It turns out that the commercial wood value of a tree is highly variable and dependent on the species, size, condition, and situation of the tree(s)! Also, sometimes trees are stolen. See also: tree law.
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Aug 29, 2019 17:58
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:Mods change name to Sawmill Scourge because I will never stop cutting down trees that need to come down for my aunties in exchange for the wood instead of having them get taken by some random pro at their convenience *strums banjo* John Henry was a Slatflippin Sawmill Scourgin Two-fisted Stihl drivin Man
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Aug 29, 2019 18:05
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