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Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Leperflesh posted:

Do they only get built like in the nevada desert outside any municipality where the county building rules are more or less nonexistent or something?

Pretty much.

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Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Lol just lol if you are building a hippy off the grid house and calling ‘CORPORATE GOVERNMENT INSPECTORS’ to your pot garden hippyhouse.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
If you did want to get an approved Earthship-style building, I assume you'd have to get an architect to sign off on your plans and say "yeah, your walls made out of tires and old soda cans won't fall down, and I'm staking my livelihood on this signature."

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

If you did want to get an approved Earthship-style building, I assume you'd have to get become an architect to sign off on your plans and say "yeah, your walls made out of tires and old soda cans won't fall down, and I'm staking my livelihood on this signature."

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
"I'm invoking the Air Bud defense, there's no rule that my dog can't be my building inspector"
"Yes there is. Your dog is not a licensed architect"

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


TooMuchAbstraction posted:

If you did want to get an approved Earthship-style building, I assume you'd have to get become an architect a structural engineer to sign off on your plans and say "yeah, your walls made out of tires and old soda cans won't fall down, and I'm staking my livelihood on this signature."

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug
I don’t know what you are all worried about; you just fill the walls with cement so when they do collapse it kills you in one strike rather than burying you alive. :unsmigghh:

The Chairman
Jun 30, 2003

But you forget, mon ami, that there is evil everywhere under the sun
There's been enough engineering research into things like rammed-earth walls and straw/tire bale construction that it generally wouldn't be too hard to pay an engineer for the time to get familiar with the state of the art, check what you've built against the researchers' recommendations, and walk the inspectors through their findings. They're getting common enough in the western US that a lot of states have started explicitly adding these construction methods to their codebooks, too

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Leperflesh posted:

Do they only get built like in the nevada desert outside any municipality where the county building rules are more or less nonexistent or something?

There are a lot more places without building inspection, probably a lot closer than you think. But yeah.

The Chairman posted:

There's been enough engineering research into things like rammed-earth walls and straw/tire bale construction that it generally wouldn't be too hard to pay an engineer for the time to get familiar with the state of the art, check what you've built against the researchers' recommendations, and walk the inspectors through their findings. They're getting common enough in the western US that a lot of states have started explicitly adding these construction methods to their codebooks, too

This isn't sufficient for any muni I've worked in or am aware of (that doesn't have this in their code book). You are DEEP into getting zoning and building variances LONG BEFORE you start. And the first professional you have to hire is a lawyer, not a structural engineer. And you'll be agreeing to pay their PE firm to inspect it after you've paid your engineer to stamp it.

If it's in the code book, great. Even if you want to do it different - you can probably get away with it with your engineer. But if the manner of construction literally isn't in the book? Yeah, I'm not signing off on that. That's MY liability now.

Nevets
Sep 11, 2002

Be they sad or be they well,
I'll make their lives a hell
The biggest problem is probably the materials. You are building a structure out of literal trash, most or none of it is going to be warrantied. A couple of those tires have dry rot / telephone poles have deep cracks / etc. and now it's not up to code since I'd imagine that 'all materials are free of defects' is in pretty much every building code ever.

Unless there is a tire and pole recycling and inspection outfit that resells this stuff.

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad


Akira, but a house.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
reclaimed barnwood telephone poles

Ambrose Burnside
Aug 30, 2007

pensive

Leperflesh posted:

I always wonder how the hell earth ships pass inspections. Like, you call up the city inspector and they just look at their copy of the code books, and look at your house, and back at their code books, and... yeah, this poo poo just isn't compatible, period?

Do they only get built like in the nevada desert outside any municipality where the county building rules are more or less nonexistent or something?

historically they're mostly out in the sticks and exempt, yeah, but they also clear the building inspector gauntlet more often than you'd think. in any case being out in the desert's a good fit for the design, it calls for dry, hot climates with an unobstructed view of the western sky, which is obvy hard to satisfy somewhere like a built-up city.
i took some classes with a woman who ran her own successful permaculture home construction business, designing and building one-off homes for clients. iirc she preferred straw-bale n chinked cordwood designs (earthships specifically are a trademarked design and not well-suited to our cold and damp climate) but had to deal with the same regulatory headaches you'd get w an earthship. there are specific municipalities considered 'havens' for weird houses because of local ordinances worded favourably for goofball construction, while in other cases she said miracles happen when you reach out to your local inspector as a first step, build a rapport, and demonstrate a good-faith desire to build a safe and code-compliant home. and there are some that were built as special projects by architecture/permaculture students and had all the usual barriers removed but which are also one-offs you can't just duplicate

Ambrose Burnside fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Sep 21, 2019

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





I found beastMasterJ's VRBO . https://www.vrbo.com/955072?adultsCount=1&arrival=2020-01-30&departure=2020-03-01


NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

IncredibleIgloo posted:

I found beastMasterJ's VRBO .

Liver surgery

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ

untzthatshit posted:

I don't even really know what to say about this one..Apparently it's a temple of some sort but what god would allow this?




We are your Groverlords

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
There's a long running British TV series called Grand Designs where they follow self-builds. It's not that unusual for coupes to split during the build; through some mix of the stress and the blokes becoming obsessed with 'their' project. The episode that just went out was this build:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-83905949.html

The wife and the kids left him mid-way through the build.

edit: a random article with some of the 'best' builds
https://www.loveproperty.com/gallerylist/70126/the-best-houses-from-grand-designs

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


Pablo Bluth posted:

There's a long running British TV series called Grand Designs where they follow self-builds. It's not that unusual for coupes to split during the build; through some mix of the stress and the blokes becoming obsessed with 'their' project. The episode that just went out was this build:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-83905949.html

The wife and the kids left him mid-way through the build.

edit: a random article with some of the 'best' builds
https://www.loveproperty.com/gallerylist/70126/the-best-houses-from-grand-designs

I mean it looks like it was at least finished so that puts it above most of the builds they have on the show. Those bathrooms look baaad though.

Then again, I'm the rugs hastily put down after realising that it's a concrete echo chamber it's impossible to hold a conversation in.

Edit: on second look I might be the unpainted staircase, the seeming total lack of blinds on any windows or the perverts telescope, just too many to choose from!

Powerful Two-Hander fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Sep 21, 2019

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
The guy who built it is in a wheel chair so the concrete floors do have a purpose. It was meant to have a fancy staircase but he ran out of money.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Pablo Bluth posted:

the concrete floors do have a purpose

Yeah to keep people inside from falling to the ground.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Pablo Bluth posted:

The guy who built it is in a wheel chair so the concrete floors do have a purpose. It was meant to have a fancy staircase but he ran out of money.

Concrete seems like a really poor choice for that. I get it - low rolling resistance, but what if he falls? The rolling resistance of almost any other "hard" flooring is going to be nearly the same and much less likely to give you a skull fracture. Or ensure that any plate or glass you drop immediately shatters everywhere.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

I think it's more that heavy wheelchair traffic maybe tends to gently caress up flooring? I imagine soft or hardwood would get chewed up very quick. Maybe tile would be OK, but that's just as hard as concrete. Linoleum is probably fine too, but also usually pretty ugly. Dunno about stuff like bamboo or composite or whatnot.

Some folks just like a concrete floor, too.

kid sinister
Nov 16, 2002

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
I'd rather have a firepole

value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008

What an adventure, to climb that staircase! Will my high heels land on a tiny triangle of even and flat stepping area, or will I step on the large rounded edges, sliding backwards and falling to my death? I'm sure it's a lousy photo, but that's a lousy staircase.

Random Encounter
Jul 19, 2007
Freeform for life
An entire staircase made of toilet tank lids.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

Are you sure these are stairs and not art?

Honest question, it'd look fine as art but the idea of having to actually use those is very nope. Imagine how much worse it would be if you were at all mobility or vision impaired.

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

Leperflesh posted:

I think it's more that heavy wheelchair traffic maybe tends to gently caress up flooring? I imagine soft or hardwood would get chewed up very quick. Maybe tile would be OK, but that's just as hard as concrete. Linoleum is probably fine too, but also usually pretty ugly. Dunno about stuff like bamboo or composite or whatnot.

Some folks just like a concrete floor, too.

In this case, I wonder if it was simply that they had no money for a decent floor covering so just dumped some clear resin over the freshly poured concrete and called it a day? Theye didn't even slap a layer of white emulsion on the staircase.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

PetraCore posted:

Are you sure these are stairs and not art?

Honest question, it'd look fine as art but the idea of having to actually use those is very nope. Imagine how much worse it would be if you were at all mobility or vision impaired.

It would be a convenient way to limit drunk people from entering a bar. The exit could be just a slide down, kinda like this:



Here's some more, uh. Creative stairs.

https://www.boredpanda.com/creative-staircases/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic

Some of these don't have any kind of hand rail or parapet because it clashes with the designer's esthetics. This is safest of them in that regard as there is a railing on the wall side and it doesn't rise too high before you reach the wall of the upper floor, but goddamn this looks like a killer otherwise.



This at least is obviously just art:





edit: oh, oh, oh! I have found the perfectly named website: https://www.stairporn.org/ (it's work safe, you dinguses)

AMISH FRIED PIES
Mar 6, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

stairs fat so what

Empty Sandwich
Apr 22, 2008

goatse mugs

I legit thought this was some small model on a kitchen countertop

and was going to make a Richard's spine joke

Youth Decay
Aug 18, 2015

https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/d5v31d/bathroom_floor_is_literally_dirt/

quote:

tl;dr: Moved into new house. Upon cleaning downstairs bathroom, found decomposed mice and the laminate peeled back to reveal earth underneath. No foundation, just dirt. Please help me.
Sadly no photos :(

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
When I said I wanted a “hot shower”, that’s not what I meant!

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002


Psh, they're renting? I need some life-ruining investment in my schadenfreude.

Also, 2.6k for a 2b/2ba isn't THAT amazing of a deal for San Diego. Sure, it's expensive here, but you can find places around that price, even in the area they're in. I guess they just REALLY wanted a house over an apartment?

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Rotten Red Rod posted:

Also, 2.6k for a 2b/2ba isn't THAT amazing of a deal for San Diego. Sure, it's expensive here, but you can find places around that price, even in the area they're in. I guess they just REALLY wanted a house over an apartment?

Well now they have a house over an escarpment.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
The house is built over a tunnel to Tijuana.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Jaded Burnout posted:

Well now they have a house over an escarpment.

:golfclap:

I read the thread closer and it sounds like the linoleum was just placed on top of plywood that's so old and waterlogged that it's falling apart and LOOKS like dirt, so it doesn't sound like they're getting out of their lease after all.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Platystemon posted:

When I said I wanted a “hot shower”, that’s not what I meant!

Is that a drywall it's built on?
Am I correct in assuming that drywall is far far less resilient to moisture damage than ceramic tiles?

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Nevets
Sep 11, 2002

Be they sad or be they well,
I'll make their lives a hell

By popular demand posted:

Is that a drywall it's built on?
Am I correct in assuming that drywall is far far less resilient to moisture damage than ceramic tiles?

In the same way that gasoline fumes are less resistant to fire than asbestos, yes.

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