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Lewd Mangabey posted:Dwelling Place by Erskine Clarke is a great semi-academic history of a specific plantation in coastal Georgia. The white owners left nice diaries and letters, with the patriarch being fairly well known at the time as a religious leader, so there's lots of narrative from that side. It's especially interesting since the white family started off as (relatively!) well-inclined to their slaves, viewing the slaves as humans with souls who deserved religious attention and some respect for their personhood. Of course, that only lasted until the system was tested, and as the years progressed towards the Civil War, the family became more reactionary and explicitly pro-status quo, which is interesting to see evolve. At the same time, the author narrates the lives of the slaves on the plantation, at least as well as he can given the relative lack of documentation on that side. It really gives the readers a chance to see what parallel lives were lived over the course of decades and generations. Highly recommended! In a similar vein, we could also look into the journal of Thomas Thistlewood I have only read a few quotes from it referenced in other material but those bits are all pretty horrible. Thistlewood managed a plantation in Jamaica in the 18th century and spoiler alert: there is a ton of rape and violence
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Rolo posted:Is The Lost World nearly as good as Jurassic Park? Just read it and it was rad as hell. It was my first Crichton book but if he’s consistent I’m stoked to keep reading his stuff. Andromeda Strain, Airframe, and Timeline are all real good Crichton, in my opinion.
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it's not as good but if you liked jp you'll like lost world. one of chrichton's best imo under no circumstances read disclosure, rising sun, state of fear, or next
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chernobyl kinsman posted:it's not as good but if you liked jp you'll like lost world. one of chrichton's best imo whats wrong with disclosure? e: havent read it, only seen the movie TommyGun85 fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Sep 20, 2019 |
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Sep 20, 2019 16:47
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Is that the one in which Michael Douglas gets throat cancer from eating too much pussy?
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TommyGun85 posted:whats wrong with disclosure? its dogshit ideological polemic like most of crichton's worst novels, and also its boring as hell
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Any good and cool hard sci fi stuff out lately? I'm just about done with Seveneves and I read Children of Time and Aurora before that.
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I'm looking for, uh, "historical fiction" that takes place during or around any of the events of the Bible. I know there's an entire genre of "biblical fiction" but I'm hoping for something that isn't so pushy with religious morals.
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bowser posted:I'm looking for, uh, "historical fiction" that takes place during or around any of the events of the Bible. I know there's an entire genre of "biblical fiction" but I'm hoping for something that isn't so pushy with religious morals. Waltari's The Secret of the Kingdom? (Haven't read it yet  )
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Sep 23, 2019 19:43
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id like a book about the bible that doesnt actually touch on any of that icky biblical stuff
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chernobyl kinsman posted:id like a book about the bible that doesnt actually touch on any of that icky biblical stuff This was a pretty lovely snipe, even for you. Asking for fiction set in a Biblical setting that isn't explicitly Christian fiction is a reasonable request. This isn't a perfect response to what OP is asking for, but King Jesus by Robert Graves is at least non-Judeochristian in its viewpoint. It basically argues for the historical Jesus as a type of Graves' sacrifical king motif. It's an interesting read, even if you don't buy what Graves is selling.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Waltari's The Secret of the Kingdom? (Haven't read it yet
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anilEhilated posted:It is pretty pushy with the morals but a fairly good read nonetheless. Oh, darn, I guess I'll not read it for another 27 years then.
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bowser posted:I'm looking for, uh, "historical fiction" that takes place during or around any of the events of the Bible. I know there's an entire genre of "biblical fiction" but I'm hoping for something that isn't so pushy with religious morals. I, Claudius is one of the best novels ever written. Jesus (or Jacob in the novel) appears but the events take place mostly in Italy rather than in Judea.
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Lewd Mangabey posted:Asking for fiction set in a Biblical setting that isn't explicitly Christian fiction is a reasonable request. its very dumb actually (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Seriouspost: you're dumb (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jerry Cotton posted:Seriouspost: you're dumb  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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bowser posted:I'm looking for, uh, "historical fiction" that takes place during or around any of the events of the Bible. I know there's an entire genre of "biblical fiction" but I'm hoping for something that isn't so pushy with religious morals. I don't know poo poo about the Bible or how Bible-adjacent you're looking for here but the Roma Sub Rosa series by Steven Saylor is a series of mystery novels set in ancient Rome that brushes up against quite a few actual historical events and figures. The novels weren't written in chronological order but they take place from around 90 BC to 44 BC.
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chernobyl kinsman posted:its very dumb actually go gently caress yourself, buddy!
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bowser posted:I'm looking for, uh, "historical fiction" that takes place during or around any of the events of the Bible. I know there's an entire genre of "biblical fiction" but I'm hoping for something that isn't so pushy with religious morals. The Red Tent? I never read it but I guess it got pretty popular. Not sure how religious it is, but it comes from a Jewish perspective instead of a Christian one, so I assume it’s less obnoxious.
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chernobyl kinsman posted:it's not as good but if you liked jp you'll like lost world. one of chrichton's best imo I started it and I’m enjoying it. Jurassic Park kept me so hooked that it’s worth reading a slightly worse second book for more. I’m enjoying Malcom’s ridiculous math rants and even though it’s gruesome Crichton has a gift for describing dinosaurs mauling people. Dennis Nedry scene won’t be forgotten soon. Should I add Sphere to the list? I do like the movie a lot.
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Rolo posted:Should I add Sphere to the list? I do like the movie a lot. Read The Andromeda Strain next.
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funkybottoms posted:Read The Andromeda Strain next. Ok deal. Also I never saw that movie so nothing is spoiled.
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Agent355 posted:Any good and cool hard sci fi stuff out lately? I'm just about done with Seveneves and I read Children of Time and Aurora before that. Read the 'Three Body Problem' yet? The trilogy it's part of is pretty hard sci-fi though more inline with something like Contact instead of big spaceship battles. It's also written by a Chinese author so it comes from that viewpoint/culture point which is really cool in that context. The translations are really good with footnotes explaining references that Westerners may need.
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Rolo posted:Ok deal. Also I never saw that movie so nothing is spoiled. Yeah I'd say read that then I really liked Sphere for what it was. I assume you'll get a lot more from the book than the movie. Eaters of the Dead was also pretty good, though a bit of a departure from his regular style, I thought.
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chernobyl kinsman posted:id like a book about the bible that doesnt actually touch on any of that icky biblical stuff whoa easy there Thomas Jefferson
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bowser posted:I'm looking for, uh, "historical fiction" that takes place during or around any of the events of the Bible. I know there's an entire genre of "biblical fiction" but I'm hoping for something that isn't so pushy with religious morals. I have no idea where you would find a used copy these days, but: quote:A band of Bronze Age mercenaries face the supreme enemy--Yahweh, the Lord of the nation of Israel--in Jericho Moon, the sequel to Iron Dawn. The barbarian princess Barra and her compatriots take on the job of rescuing the prince of Jebusi (Jerusalem) from the tribes of the Habiru. But rescuing him is the easy part--compared to the challenge of saving the entire city of Jebusi from the righteous slaughter that the Habiru war-leader Joshua and his thousands of warriors have planned. Barra can't turn down the role of savior; not only is the prince of Jebusi an attractive guy, but the city's goddess has made it clear that Barra is her chosen champion, and the city hasn't a chance without her. Jericho Moon is filled with thoroughly scary magical battles--think thunderbolts, hail of stones, and other demonstrations of godly wrath. While there is still some humorous by-play, as when Barra meets some barbarians from her homeland at a fancy party, this book is darker than Iron Dawn and the subject matter more risky. (Yet Yahweh does shine as a vengeful and merciless villain.) Jericho Moon is first-class fantasy entertainment, stuffed with likable characters, brawling adventures, and heroic struggles. --Blaise Selby
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funkybottoms posted:Read The Andromeda Strain next. My first exposure to Crichton was in high school, with Jurassic Park. My next exposure was The Andromeda Strain, and it was so boring that I haven't touched him since.
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Agent355 posted:Any good and cool hard sci fi stuff out lately? I'm just about done with Seveneves and I read Children of Time and Aurora before that. Children of Ruin (Children of Time sequel) wasn’t bad! You should try that out. The Luminous Dead is hard sf in that the technology is imperfect and doesn’t like, gloss over human characteristics. But it’s really in a sub genre of “cave horror”, and it’s ok. This year was kind of a wash for the genre. I liked The Light Brigade a lot, but it’s about time travel so not really hard sf. Except that the time travel mechanic is extremely confusing and hosed up.
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can someone recommend a book about dealing with a loss of a family member or friend (fiction would be best, but open to nonfiction as well)
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So this is a specific request, but I just played Life is Strange 2 Episode 3 and I'm keen for a book about dumbass hippies and homeless people living in the woods. I really enjoyed Into the Wild when I read it last year. I find most of the stories about living away from modern society tend to be survivalist fantasies whereas I just want to read about idiots ruining their lives. Any ideas?
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succ posted:can someone recommend a book about dealing with a loss of a family member or friend (fiction would be best, but open to nonfiction as well) A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius. Non-fiction but doesn't really read as such. Early 20s guy loses both his parents within months of each other and raises his much younger brother (6 years old or so iirc) Lisey's Story by Stephen King. Not really like most of his stuff, most similar to Bag of Bones but much better. His best actual writing cum writing imo.
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Beartaco posted:So this is a specific request, but I just played Life is Strange 2 Episode 3 and I'm keen for a book about dumbass hippies and homeless people living in the woods. I really enjoyed Into the Wild when I read it last year. The Dharma Bums by Jack Kerouac. They're not ruining their lives, though.
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succ posted:can someone recommend a book about dealing with a loss of a family member or friend (fiction would be best, but open to nonfiction as well) If it's for a kid, Judith Viorst's The Tenth Good Thing About Barney.
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Beartaco posted:So this is a specific request, but I just played Life is Strange 2 Episode 3 and I'm keen for a book about dumbass hippies and homeless people living in the woods. I really enjoyed Into the Wild when I read it last year. God that brings to mind that Harrison Ford flick Mosquito Coast. Maybe The Poisonwood Bible?
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tuyop posted:The Imperial Radch trilogy by Ann Leckie sounds right up your alley. Just coming back to this far far later. You were correct, I’ve just finished the third book and am incredibly disappointed that there likely won’t be a fourth (to close out the Presger and Anaander story lines). I actually listened to all three books as narrated by Anjoa Andoh, she was definitely one of the reasons I got sucked in as much as I was. Thank you for the recommendation.
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I'm headed to Berlin in a few weeks and before I go I would like to read some historical fiction (nonfiction is also OK) focused on or around Berlin — WWII or Cold War era. Something in the vein of "The Kites" by Romain Gary would be amazing. Or maybe there's a quintessential book about the Berlin Wall falling, or the divide in the city? Or a more modern, abstract take on the division? If it helps, I enjoy journalists who then go on to write realistic fiction (Vasily Grossman, Arthur Koestler). Anything to give me a vibe of the city and/or history and/or major themes. Any recommendations are appreciated!
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grahm posted:I'm headed to Berlin in a few weeks and before I go I would like to read some historical fiction (nonfiction is also OK) focused on or around Berlin — WWII or Cold War era. Something in the vein of "The Kites" by Romain Gary would be amazing. Or maybe there's a quintessential book about the Berlin Wall falling, or the divide in the city? Or a more modern, abstract take on the division? If it helps, I enjoy journalists who then go on to write realistic fiction (Vasily Grossman, Arthur Koestler). Anything to give me a vibe of the city and/or history and/or major themes. Any recommendations are appreciated! nonfiction but erik larson's in the garden of beasts is really good. read it just before my own trip to berlin this summer
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grahm posted:I'm headed to Berlin in a few weeks and before I go I would like to read some historical fiction (nonfiction is also OK) focused on or around Berlin — WWII or Cold War era. Something in the vein of "The Kites" by Romain Gary would be amazing. Or maybe there's a quintessential book about the Berlin Wall falling, or the divide in the city? Or a more modern, abstract take on the division? If it helps, I enjoy journalists who then go on to write realistic fiction (Vasily Grossman, Arthur Koestler). Anything to give me a vibe of the city and/or history and/or major themes. Any recommendations are appreciated! I'd actually suggest a movie quote:Wings of Desire (German: Der Himmel über Berlin, lit. 'Heaven Over Berlin') is a 1987 romantic fantasy film directed by Wim Wenders. The film is about invisible, immortal angels who populate Berlin and listen to the thoughts of its human inhabitants, comforting the distressed. Even though the city is densely populated, many of the people are isolated or estranged from their loved ones. One of the angels, played by Bruno Ganz, falls in love with a beautiful, lonely trapeze artist, played by Solveig Dommartin. The angel chooses to become mortal so that he can experience human sensory pleasures, ranging from enjoying food to touching a loved one, and so that he can discover human love with the trapeze artist. quote:Meanwhile, actor Peter Falk arrives in West Berlin to make a film about the city's Nazi past. Falk was once an angel, who, having grown tired of always observing and never experiencing, renounced his immortality to become a participant in the world. Also growing weary of infinity, Damiel's longing is for the genuineness and limits of human existence. He meets Marion in a dream, and is surprised when Falk senses his presence and tells him about the pleasures of human life. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Oct 4, 2019 |
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