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Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

Lipstick Apathy

Lifeglug posted:

I will never not find metalheads getting angry over Ghost funny.

:same: and I don't even like Ghost

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Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

And as the thread has repeatedly concluded, making people go "ew what the gently caress" and get mad is metal as hell.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
:qq: the spooky mask men made me hear music i don't like :qq:

Tias
May 25, 2008

Pictured: the patron saint of internet political arguments (probably)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

COOL CORN posted:

:qq: the spooky mask men made me hear music i don't like :qq:

You are correct gune sir, I don't appreciate hearing lovely rear end glam pop at a metal festival. Whoda thunk :iiam:

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
They’re not very good but I never understood the divisiveness.

If you want to hear Tobias Forge make good music that’s equally derivative listen to Repugnant.

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy
ghost owns, metal owns

like what you like who gives a gently caress

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

My issue with Ghost is that they don’t even do anything slightly weird or unique or interesting past exactly what you would expect. It’s so safe. I honestly do appreciate their dedication to the stage show + ~band mystery~, it’s cool, but there’s just not a lot of depth anywhere. And that’s okay too, some people just want singalong rock/metal with a fun stage show and stuff to follow behind the scenes. Arthur Brown is still touring though. Go see him!

But yes even as someone who has defended them before, man, it’s hard to muster up any energy to do that. They’re just not very compelling to me. I’ll hear a song and think huh okay that’s fun and then forget about it a day later. I understand why they’re popular but I don’t even find them fun to trash. It’s like yelling at top 40s pop music for being shallow and redundant.

Anyway, here, have a nice treat I found on YouTube this morning

Gorguts - Stiff and Cold (Pro footage 1998

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
ghost sucks but just about every new band with any level of hype primarily trafficks in revisionist nostalgia with varying degrees of commitment

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Tias posted:

gently caress, my bad :(


Good, I hope you feel bad for bringing it back up.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Ghost is just cheesy hard rock/metal with catchy-rear end hooks, played by highly competent musicians and backed by competent and entertaining theatrics.

Not everything needs to be über-brvtal or super technical or political or controversial. It's OK to have fun with some music that catches you easily, instead of having to really get into it to appreciate it.

Also:

Lifeglug posted:

I will never not find metalheads getting angry over Ghost funny.

Back when the first album came out, I remember a lot of people calling them boring and a flash in the pan, they'll be forgotten and would be listening to them in a couple of years and so on. Well, they're still here :)

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



people itt complain about Ghost then fawn over Gloryhammer LMAO

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.

Kvlt! posted:

people itt complain about Ghost then fawn over Gloryhammer LMAO

Who's got two thumbs and doesn't like Gloryhammer?

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.

Kvlt! posted:

people itt complain about Ghost then fawn over Gloryhammer LMAO

It's because Gloryhammer are far more entertaining. Not that I really complain about Ghost, I personally find them very bland and boring despite the theatrics, but they're not worth getting worked up over.

Hulk Krogan
Mar 25, 2005



Kilometers Davis posted:

My issue with Ghost is that they don’t even do anything slightly weird or unique or interesting past exactly what you would expect. It’s so safe.

This describes a ton of the death/black metal and thrash posted ITT too though. Matt Harvey made a whole new band just to play old Death riffs and we all lapped it up like greedy little piggies. Fuggedabout the doom thread.

Doing something groundbreaking is cool but IMO there's nothing wrong with doing an existing sound if you write good songs/have a fun live show.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Hulk Krogan posted:

This describes a ton of the death/black metal and thrash posted ITT too though. Matt Harvey made a whole new band just to play old Death riffs and we all lapped it up like greedy little piggies. Fuggedabout the doom thread.

Doing something groundbreaking is cool but IMO there's nothing wrong with doing an existing sound if you write good songs/have a fun live show.

DONT CROSS THE PICKET LINE HULK

yeah, fair

Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



Taking a bm break to go through RYM's charts for pm EP releases this year. My first click and I've already found something great, Endymion. I don't think I'm super on the nail with this comparison but it's an EP that sounds like it's made up entirely of Avantasia guest features rather than Tobias.


Edit: this will be a short journey, there's only 5 EPs on the chart when I filter out what I've already heard.

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
Ghost rocks because they're like a modern Blue Oyster Cult and not enough bands are like Blue Oyster Cult.

Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



Can I split the difference and say Ghost's first album is really good and the rest of their material is trash?

Nazzadan fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Oct 24, 2019

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
Please restrict discussion in this thread to metal, thanks.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

Please restrict discussion in this thread to BOLT THROWER, thanks.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Gatekeeping is trve kvlt

venus de lmao
Apr 30, 2007

Call me "pixeltits"

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

metal, thanks.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Reminder to listen to this song (and album) at least once every few months

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDErkdqrzlg

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
That bass drum intro is one of my favorite beginnings to any metal song.

It's too bad they turned into Dim Mak.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

It's too bad they turned into Dim Mak.

:emptyquote:

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

ah, time for this thread to go through another round of 'not liking a popular band means people are angry about that band'

deadking
Apr 13, 2006

Hello? Charlemagne?!

Kvlt! posted:

people itt complain about Ghost then fawn over Gloryhammer LMAO

They're both terrible.

Less Claypool
Apr 16, 2009

More Primus For Fucks Sake.

deadking posted:

They're both terrible.

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

Shut the gently caress up and Bolt Thrower.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA55DqbGa0A

Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



Release day Friday

Runemagick that was supposed to come out last week finally properly released, death doom
Rings of Saturn up on the usual stuff, tech death
The Great Old Ones, atmoblack
Dawn Ray'd, rabm
Cirith Ungol live album dropped
Signs of the Swarm, tech deathcore
Mayhem
Exmortus EP, thrash
Alcest, blackgaze/post-metal
Hour of Penance, brutal tech death
Botanist, hippy bm
Fit for an Autopsy, deathcore
Vacivus, dm

Edit: like half these links aren't fully released because it's 1130 on the west coast

Nazzadan fucked around with this message at 07:21 on Oct 25, 2019

henpod
Mar 7, 2008

Sir, we have located the Bioweapon.
College Slice
Ghost. Bolt Thrower. Metal thread.

0 rows returned
Apr 9, 2007

I'm liking the new mayhem album so far.

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

Lipstick Apathy

Nazzadan posted:

Alcest, blackgaze/post-metal

Holy shiiiiiiiiiiiit it's finally out :woop: :woop:

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
I am very excited for the new Alcest album

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

Lipstick Apathy
Just finished my first full play of it

AOTY

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Oh gently caress I didn't know a new Alcest was coming out!

edit-- is Neige playing metal on this one though? are we allowed to talk about it here? please confirm

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
It's more metal than ghost

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



You don’t have to actually play metal, f you dress like a metal band that’s close enough

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy

Snowy posted:

You don’t have to actually play metal, f you dress like a metal band that’s close enough

new act announced for MDF2020: Billie Eilish

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Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Nazzadan posted:

Release day Friday

Runemagick that was supposed to come out last week finally properly released, death doom
Rings of Saturn up on the usual stuff, tech death
The Great Old Ones, atmoblack
Dawn Ray'd, rabm
Cirith Ungol live album dropped
Signs of the Swarm, tech deathcore
Mayhem
Exmortus EP, thrash
Alcest, blackgaze/post-metal
Hour of Penance, brutal tech death
Botanist, hippy bm
Fit for an Autopsy, deathcore
Vacivus, dm

Edit: like half these links aren't fully released because it's 1130 on the west coast

how the gently caress does anyone even keep up with any of this ahhhhh so much metal

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