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Larry Parrish: Jul 9, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

just emigrate to North Korea lol. put your money where your mouth is and join the shattered remnant of the comintern

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Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Moving to North Korea so they can kidnap me a Japanese girlfriend

# ? Oct 26, 2019 02:26

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

I wouldn't mind moving to Vietnam. Seems like a nicer place

# ? Oct 26, 2019 02:45

Optimus Subprime: Mar 26, 2005; Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?

can you be kidnapped by a regime if you want to be there?

# ? Oct 26, 2019 03:30

Dreylad: Jun 19, 2001

it would be amazing if they invited trump to give the keynote to that meeting probably because he'd accept

# ? Oct 26, 2019 03:32

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Optimus Subprime posted:

can you be kidnapped by a regime if you want to be there?

Move to South Korea and study film, or move to China and play basketball if you want to increase your chances.

# ? Oct 26, 2019 03:33

Finicums Wake: Mar 13, 2017; Can't post for 8 years!

another interesting NLR article

Digital Socialism? The Calculation Debate in the Age of Big Data (Evgeny Morozov) posted:

In what follows, I will revisit�and, I hope, revitalize�the Socialist Calculation Debate, exploring some of the ways in which the participants conceived the relations between knowledge, price and social coordination, and how their referents may have changed in the age of big data. I will go on to suggest ways in which the development of digital �feedback infrastructure� offers opportunities for the left to propose better processes of discovery, better solutions for the hyper-complexity of social organization in fast-changing environments, and better matches of production and consumption than Hayek�s solution�market competition and the price system�could provide.

https://newleftreview.org/issues/II116/articles/evgeny-morozov-digital-socialism

# ? Oct 29, 2019 00:17

Dreddout: Oct 1, 2015; You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Moving to North Korea so they can kidnap me a Japanese girlfriend

Incels suddenly embracing juche en masse because it's the only government system that actively gets it's citizens girlfriends

# ? Oct 29, 2019 01:26

Finicums Wake: Mar 13, 2017; Can't post for 8 years!

Dreddout posted:

Incels suddenly embracing juche en masse because it's the only government system that actively gets it's citizens girlfriends

JAPANESE INCELS ARE FIGHTING FOR A MARXIST REVOLUTION posted:

If you spend any amount of time reading the rants of western incels (I do not, by any means, recommend it), you�ll find that their views are couched in a capitalist framework. To them, women are a study in resource scarcity and depreciation, while alpha males (or �Chads�) are random winners of a rigged economic competition, enjoying unlimited, unearned sex the way One Percenters do their mega-yachts.

Were these guys not so mired in misogyny, they might step back and consider how their critique has better applications to the American marketplace than to dating norms. Instead, they seethe on message boards and YouTube channels, and when some decide to take their resentment public, it�s with explosive violence against women. These men have arrived at a nihilistic paralysis, and, believing the world as they see it cannot be changed, they indulge an appetite for terrorism. They are a proven threat to human life.

How odd, then, that Japan appears to have a group that fits the incel category but registers, at worst, as a harmless bit of performance art. Their official name, Kakumeiteki Himote Domei, has been translated a number of ways, including �Revolutionary Unattractive Male Alliance,� �Revolutionary Alliance of Unpopular Men,� �Losers With Women� and �The Revolutionary Grouping of Men That Women Are Not Attracted To.�

Key to any understanding of their identity, though, is the Japanese colloquialism �mote,� which means �popular with the opposite sex.� The term �himote� translates to �non-mote� � meaning these men claim to lack some ineffable quality that would appeal to Japanese women. They are essentially (supposedly) undesirable.

Kakumeiteki Himote Domei (sometimes abbreviated as Kakuhidou) was founded by a dude named Katsuhiro Furusawa. The story goes that in 2006, Furusawa was dumped by a girlfriend � and wound up reading Marx and Engel�s Communist Manifesto soon after. The epiphany he had combined his recent heartbreak with the ongoing struggle for a new socioeconomic order.

�CRUSH ROMANTIC CAPITALISM!�

As the Japanese art and design blog Spoon & Tamago explained it: �He quickly came to the realization that being unpopular with girls is a class issue.� From there, he began to organize rallies tied to consumerist holidays that place a premium on intimacy: Valentine�s Day, Christmas Eve (the year�s biggest date night in Japan) and White Day, an occasion on which men reciprocate the gifts they received from their sweethearts on Valentine�s. Slogans for these events include �Crush Romantic Capitalism� and �Sex Is Useless.� They decry both loneliness and commercial interests.

More from Spoon & Tamago:

quote:
Kakuhidou�s slogans combine Japanese internet culture with classical Marxism, and its origins in cyberspace can be charted through its choice of language. For example, one frequent target of the group�s admonitions are the so-called �riyajuu� (リア充), a neologism frequently used in online communities such as [the Japanese message board] 2chan to refer to those who experience fulfillment in their offline lives (riyajuu is a portmanteau that combines �real� with �jyuujitsu,� the Japanese word for fulfillment).

full article with some videos and pictures
https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/japanese-incels-marxist-revolution-kakumeiteki-himote

lmao

# ? Oct 29, 2019 01:34

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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A socialist state really could help incels, if only because it's the only kind of government that could intervene in a way to properly socialize them.

Also their critique of romantic commodification isn't wrong.

# ? Oct 29, 2019 01:50

Larry Parrish: Jul 9, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

A socialist state really could help incels, if only because it's the only kind of government that could intervene in a way to properly socialize them.

Also their critique of romantic commodification isn't wrong.

hating on incels for being incels is doing the bougioise's work for them. it's being a cop online.

# ? Oct 29, 2019 02:01

Lightning Knight: Feb 24, 2012; Pray for Answer

inceldom with Marxist-Leninist characteristics

# ? Oct 29, 2019 02:24

Goast: Jul 23, 2011; by VideoGames

at least a virgin revolution would get them out of the house

# ? Oct 29, 2019 02:34

Dreylad: Jun 19, 2001

could a socialist also rescue the noble volcel tradition from the abyss of pederasty where it most of its adherents currently reside?

# ? Oct 29, 2019 02:37

Bryter: Nov 6, 2011; but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

Mods please change thread title to Revolutionary Unattractive Male Alliance

# ? Oct 29, 2019 02:41

Goast: Jul 23, 2011; by VideoGames

Dreylad posted:

could a socialist also rescue the noble volcel tradition from the abyss of pederasty where it most of its adherents currently reside?

pederasts gently caress though, how can you be a volcel pedophile?

# ? Oct 29, 2019 02:58

Dreylad: Jun 19, 2001

Goast posted:

pederasts gently caress though, how can you be a volcel pedophile?

be a catholic priest, obviously

# ? Oct 29, 2019 07:38

MizPiz: May 29, 2013; by Athanatos

Bryter posted:

Mods please change thread title to Revolutionary Unattractive Male Alliance

Is there a joke about "RUMA" I don't know about?

# ? Oct 29, 2019 07:52

Finicums Wake: Mar 13, 2017; Can't post for 8 years!

MizPiz posted:

Is there a joke about "RUMA" I don't know about?

it's one way to translate the japanese marxcel group's name

# ? Oct 29, 2019 08:24

i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

revolutionary unity my rear end

# ? Oct 29, 2019 09:22

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Finicums Wake posted:

another interesting NLR article
https://newleftreview.org/issues/II116/articles/evgeny-morozov-digital-socialism

this is a very good article with positive suggestions, not just the normal Morozov grumpy critique. i'd never heard of Saros' book on IT in socialist construction before this, and i really like the conclusion of studying, disaggregating, and replicating useful market functionality, research into proving competition a bad coordinating mechanism, and control of platforms

it's nice to see Beer's organizational cybernetics getting a bit of an airing on the left (rather than simply revisiting Chile yet again); interesting to see his approach to information flows compared to Hayek's

for anyone interested in these issues, putting in a quick plug for General Intellect Unit podcast, who just did a 2-parter on this article! they're pretty solid and a good source of reading material

# ? Oct 29, 2019 09:24

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

i say swears online posted:

revolutionary unity my rear end

# ? Oct 29, 2019 11:05

Fated To Be Fat: May 23, 2009; A branch without a tree.

MizPiz posted:

Is there a joke about "RUMA" I don't know about?

Idk if this was the point but ruma literally means ugly in finnish.

# ? Oct 29, 2019 11:14

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

i say swears online posted:

such a simplistic view, must be a CSPAM poster

qnqnx posted:

I don't think he would be welcome even in that trash dump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-lthe47-NU

# ? Oct 31, 2019 20:48

Serf: May 5, 2011

https://twitter.com/generalissima_/status/1190038996086378496?s=21

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Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

how do you make that take and not touch the asian mode of production

# ? Nov 1, 2019 00:13

Mr. Lobe: Feb 23, 2007; ... Dry bones...

Raskolnikov38 posted:

how do you make that take and not touch the asian mode of production

oh thats quite simple, just never actually read anything before forming opinions

# ? Nov 1, 2019 02:40

Dreylad: Jun 19, 2001

i think people will always be unable to separate their interest in someone's work and whether or not they find that person likable

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MizPiz: May 29, 2013; by Athanatos

Serf posted:

https://twitter.com/generalissima_/status/1190038996086378496?s=21

TBF, Marx was basically one of those petulant "real communists" who tries to become the head ideas guy of his group and calls everyone who criticizes him a conservative wrecker

# ? Nov 1, 2019 02:58

Bryter: Nov 6, 2011; but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

MizPiz posted:

TBF, Marx was basically one of those petulant "real communists" who tries to become the head ideas guy of his group and calls everyone who criticizes him a conservative wrecker

he was like one of those guys except correct

# ? Nov 1, 2019 03:11

Karl Barks: Jan 21, 1981

FishMarx

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THS: Sep 15, 2017

Bryter posted:

he was like one of those guys except correct

# ? Nov 1, 2019 03:34

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Marx is one of the greatest posters of all time, and I dunno how you couldn't like him if you read his critiques - which were savage.

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GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

Karl Barks posted:

FishMarx

# ? Nov 1, 2019 04:14

Victory Position: Mar 16, 2004

Karl Barks posted:

FishMarx

# ? Nov 1, 2019 04:17

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

MizPiz posted:

TBF, Marx was basically one of those petulant "real communists" who tries to become the head ideas guy of his group and calls everyone who criticizes him a conservative wrecker

TBF every single one of his contemporaries was also a poster of that caliber.

# ? Nov 1, 2019 04:20

Larry Parrish: Jul 9, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Marx is good and despite hating middle class people I dont really have a problem with middle class people that worked past their class background to do stuff. Maybe if he spent time telling poor people how actually they can afford coal so they arent true proles I'd revise this opinion

# ? Nov 1, 2019 07:48

Hodgepodge: Jan 29, 2006; Can't post for 206 days!

When you do something like explain capitalism in its entirety for the first time, you get to be the "ideas guy."

# ? Nov 1, 2019 08:12

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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In the 19th century the "middle class" was everyone who could read but didn't own capital.

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BernieTheBolshevik: Oct 21, 2019; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

"Middle Class" is a false consciousness used to convince certain workers their interests lie with their masters rather than their fellow proletarians. A true communist sees only two groups in society, the workers, and the ruling class of parasites.

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