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Weeeeeeeeee!!quote:Tor Books has announced that Brandon Sanderson will return to Roshar and the Cosmere universe on November 17, 2020 with the fourth volume in his landmark epic fantasy series, The Stormlight Archive!
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Dec 10, 2019 18:08
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Rear cover summary is up on Amazon! After forming a coalition of human resistance against the enemy invasion, Dalinar Kholin and his Knights Radiant have spent a year fighting a protracted, brutal war. Neither side has gained an advantage. Now, as new technological discoveries begin to change the face of the war, the enemy prepares a bold and dangerous operation. The arms race that follows will challenge the very core of the Radiant ideals, and potentially reveal the secrets of the ancient tower that was once the heart of their strength.
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Dec 10, 2019 18:16
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Cicero posted:Weeeeeeeeee!! The dude is a complete machine. Holy poo poo I am so pumped.
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Dec 10, 2019 18:21
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Cicero posted:Weeeeeeeeee!! gently caress yea. I'm gonna finish my reread too soon though 🙃
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Dec 10, 2019 18:51
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It's not even a year away yo what the fuuuuuuuck
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Dec 10, 2019 21:26
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Cicero posted:Weeeeeeeeee!! quote:“It has been almost twenty years since I first outlined The Stormlight Archive,” says Sanderson. “Back then, I didn’t think anyone would be interested in this crazy epic I’d devised–and it’s been so thrilling to see enthusiasm for it grow to such heights over the years. Book four finally gets to one of the foundational scenes I conceived from the beginning. In fact, it might be the very first big scene I imagined, and my favorite in the entire series. A part of me can’t believe people are finally going to be able to read it. Less than one year now! Life before death, Radiants.” I'm super excited!
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Dec 10, 2019 22:01
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Hell yeah, hopefully I'll be caught up by the time November rolls around. I'm about 80% finished with WOK but it's really slow going. I usually barrel through books like this, but I just can't build up any kind of momentum here, which is strange because I am loving the book. There are just so many plates spinning at once that I get thrown off track every time the POV changes.
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Dec 10, 2019 22:10
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Is that your first read? The "sanderstorm" is a little late-coming for how thick the book is, but boy does the ending get me every time I read it.
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Dec 10, 2019 22:15
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Jorenko posted:Rear cover summary is up on Amazon! yes. Yes.
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Dec 10, 2019 22:31
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we're finally getting the Sibling baby
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Dec 10, 2019 22:47
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I just started a re-read of the series over the weekend. Wooo!
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Dec 10, 2019 23:03
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Just finished WOK, and as expected, that last 20% is just one insane thing after another. I've already read Mistborn and Elantris; what should I read next? WOR is the obvious choice, but I've heard it's good to read Warbreaker first. And I assume I should read AU after WOR?
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Dec 13, 2019 22:45
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Yea I think the "recommended path" is Warbreaker then WoR but honestly I feel like just keep the Stormlight Train going, personally. How can anyone read Dalinar's "deal" and NOT go immediately to the next book 
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Dec 13, 2019 23:02
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Sab669 posted:Yea I think the "recommended path" is Warbreaker then WoR but honestly I feel like just keep the Stormlight Train going, personally. Yeah, I think it’s best to read Warbreaker before starting Stormlight entirely so you don’t have to interrupt it.
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Dec 13, 2019 23:55
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The only Arcanum Unbound story that's relevant to Stormlight is Edgedancer. The rest of the stories are still good, but Edgedancer is directly relevant to the start of Oathbringer.
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Dec 14, 2019 01:09
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IMO, just read the Stormlight novels in order if you like the Stormlight novels, they're the best stuff Sanderson has written. The rest has a different feel and only gives tiny Easter egg connections to the plot. The other Sanderson series and stories are decent too, but they're all 99% self-contained, so if you bounce off them, don't really worry about it.
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Dec 14, 2019 01:41
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Infinite Karma posted:IMO, just read the Stormlight novels in order if you like the Stormlight novels, they're the best stuff Sanderson has written. The rest has a different feel and only gives tiny Easter egg connections to the plot. Yea I don't agree with this but only in the case of Warbreaker which has MANY direct cross overs with Stormlight. They are not just 'tiny Easter eggs'. I would 100% read Warbreaker before moving on to Stormlight 2+. It is also free so there is no reason not to. You should then read Edgedancer before Stormlight 3.
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Dec 14, 2019 23:16
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Yes, but they're still extremely easy to miss even if you've read Warbreaker though. I think calling them tiny easter eggs for now is fine, there's really not much significance to said cross overs other than just being aware that they're there. For now, anyways.
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Dec 14, 2019 23:58
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But Nightblood makes a lot more sense if you've read Warbringer. And it already plays a bigger-ish role in Oathbringer.
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Dec 15, 2019 00:26
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Torrannor posted:But Nightblood makes a lot more sense if you've read Warbringer. And it already plays a bigger-ish role in Oathbringer. It's ok for weird magic things to exist without explanation.
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Dec 15, 2019 00:30
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i think it's worth reading warbreaker before oathbringer, because that's where the big connections become regular but if you read it before WOR, exactly one thing at the end of the book will be a much cooler moment if anything, edgedancer is more optional, because Oathbringer does a fine job explaining most of what you'd learn in it
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Dec 15, 2019 00:43
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:It's ok for weird magic things to exist without explanation. Along those lines, Nightblood shows up after you learn that shardblades are spren, so it would be reasonable to assume it’s just a special spren. Warbreaker colors (pun intended) a lot of the background in WoR and Oathbringer, but isn’t necessary to understand the books.
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Dec 15, 2019 01:46
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insider posted:Yea I don't agree with this but only in the case of Warbreaker which has MANY direct cross overs with Stormlight. They are not just 'tiny Easter eggs'. Definitely should read Warbreaker before Oathbringer, because you'll miss stuff otherwise while certain other things won't make as much sense. Warbreaker's also a good book people should read regardless and it's free. I think Warbreaker 2 is on Sanderson's to do list after Stormlight 4 isn't it? eke out posted:but if you read it before WOR, exactly one thing at the end of the book will be a much cooler moment There are several things that will make sense in WOR if they read Warbreaker first. Such as some comments from Wit, including his mention of Perfect Pitch, and I believe one of the games people play in Warbreaker is played by a certain character in WOR which was an early hint about them being a worldhopper. And that scene at the end of the book of course.
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Dec 15, 2019 06:21
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Don't forget that a character from Warbreaker features prominently in one of the arcs in OB so much love for the person Vivenna turns out to be in Azure. I found her so grating in Warbreaker for most of the novel that it was great to see how much she's grown in OB. Not to mention that she seems to have figured out Type IV Biochromatic entities
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Dec 15, 2019 07:59
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The stuff you learn from Warbreaker is fairly relevant, but Warbreaker isn't a very good novel.
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Dec 15, 2019 11:52
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mossyfisk posted:The stuff you learn from Warbreaker is fairly relevant, but Warbreaker isn't a very good novel. Warbreaker is in fact a fun novel
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Dec 15, 2019 20:18
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mossyfisk posted:The stuff you learn from Warbreaker is fairly relevant, but Warbreaker isn't a very good novel. Woah. Those are fighting words. Warbreaker has the most interesting and fun magic system Brandon has done IMO.
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Dec 15, 2019 20:54
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mossyfisk posted:The stuff you learn from Warbreaker is fairly relevant, but Warbreaker isn't a very good novel. Let me guess, you disliked the attempts at humor in the book? I find it's one of the best novels and most people I recommended it to start on Sanderson stuff seem to agree?
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Dec 16, 2019 08:25
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I wouldn't say Warbreaker was bad, but IMO it is by far the weakest of the Sanderson novels (possibly besides Elantris, which is the only one I haven't read). The characters mostly fall flat and the story doesn't hit its marks particularly well. My feeling after finishing the book was just very underwhelmed, it had a handful of high points but overall it felt uninspired. Part of that is probably that I didn't find the magic system particularly interesting, it felt very arbitrary and poorly bounded, in contrast to the very engaging systems of Stormlight and Mistborn. The way characters "level up" when they get a specific number of breaths felt really dumb to me, that kind of progression was handled so much better by Stormlight, where advancement of a surgebinder's ability is based on their character growth and the oaths they take. It says a lot that the characters you see again in Stormlight are far more interesting and dynamic than they were in the book dedicated to them, despite only getting small slivers of attention.. Seems I'm in the minority opinion, but it's fully safe to not read it before Stormlight. I read Stormlight first of all the cosmere books, and I don't feel like it detracted from my reading experience at all. It was fun to focus on the characters and the specific world, then read the other cosmere books and come back again with fresh perspective.
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Dec 16, 2019 10:10
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As someone who really likes both Warbreaker and crossover Easter eggs.... It really doesn't matter if you read Warbreaker before Stormlight. Nothing plot-relevant is dependent on you knowing anything about Warbreaker. It adds a little background detail and fleshes out a few interactions and motivations, but it all makes perfect sense without having read Warbreaker or remembering anything about it. Edgedancer is a little more relevant, since it addresses the massive change in motivation of one of the side characters that happens between 2 and 3. But that's also something you can infer from context. That said, Warbreaker owns. And you should read it.
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Dec 16, 2019 14:13
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I'd say read Warbreaker first but mainly because it's not as well written as the Stormlight books so I doubt it holds up. skip edgedancer is you're one of the funhaters who doesn't like lift (don't actually skip edgedancer he's pretty clearly making her arc one where she grows up over time and edgedancer is... pretty important there!)
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Dec 16, 2019 14:54
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I felt like nothing happens in Warbreaker, just a lot of people standing around waiting for offscreen bad guys to do something.
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Dec 16, 2019 17:22
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I'm surprised at the thread hate for Warbreaker. Warbreaker is one of my favorites. Good magic system, good mysteries, good twists. The characters were all relatable (except for Vasher, who was still well written though his motivations were deliberately kept obscure). Plus, Nightblood.
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Dec 16, 2019 17:47
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warbreaker is cool it is slow, though, until it becomes extremely fast
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Dec 16, 2019 18:09
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Yeah, I remember liking Warbreaker the first time I read it, then I went back to it post-Oathbringer to pick up on more references and I found it unbearably slow to start.
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Dec 16, 2019 18:12
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i'd say it's best taken in as an audiobook while you're doing something else
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Dec 16, 2019 18:31
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Funny, it actually was as an audiobook that I went back to it with. But I was also caring for a newborn at the time so I think my patience was just shot. For reading order, I just came across this and it's reminding me of the massive flowcharts that people made for Discworld. 
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Dec 16, 2019 19:35
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that chart sucks i'm a "read it all" guy but i see no reason to worry about which series you start with aside from it being a good idea to do warbreaker early my particular mania would simply suggest starting with elantris and going forward in release order
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Dec 16, 2019 21:52
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Yea, the real answer is, "Read it in whatever order you want, you're going to reread them all a bunch of times anyways"  I agree with EVGA Longoria though; Even if you realize "Oh, Zahel is Vasher".... OK? It literally makes no difference to story thus far. Same with Azure / Nightblood.
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Dec 16, 2019 22:05
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Sab669 posted:Yea, the real answer is, "Read it in whatever order you want, you're going to reread them all a bunch of times anyways" Yep, it only makes a difference to the cosmere meta-story, which, if you get into...you're gonna read it all a bunch of times, browse coppermind.net, and look up WoB poo poo anyway just like you say. I support any and all reading orders from potential fans because it's interesting to hear about different perspectives from different contexts for first-reads. Maybe I'm just selfish.
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Dec 16, 2019 22:33
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