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Donovan Trip posted:Only a dark lord of the sith deals in absolutes That’s a racist statement.
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Shaocaholica posted:That’s a racist statement. ??????
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Mat Cauthon posted:He's right. weekly font posted:There’s a decent read here considering Johnson’s extremely online twitter and the politics of Knives Out. Lots of Holdos criticisms at Poe are word for word #stillwithher stuff directed at Bernie Bros in November 2016 I'm not super familiar with CD and I have never heard of the hillary man thing, so I wasn't sure if that was like an elaborate Goon'splanation or what. But now that's explained, I can kind of see it everywhere. I'm kind of baffled I've never heard it before, and Google only yields HRC conspiracy theories. Edit: Like, is hillary man an SA only thing? It's blowing my mind... ThePopeOfFun fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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Dec 19, 2019 22:32
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Sheev just wanted to open up a series of chain yogurt joints called Absolutes and was once again murdered for his efforts.
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Lol i just remembered something from this film. They're all trying to think how to take out the new Sith fleet and Dominic Monaghan shouts out "Hey let's try the Holdo maneuver" and Poe is like "um nah that's a one in a million shot" and they move the gently caress on from that idea. JJ was clearly anticipating everyone asking why dont they just light speed some ships into the enemy like TLJ. It was hand waved so poorly.
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Dec 19, 2019 22:39
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thrawn527 posted:I agree that JJ isn't interested in politics, but I'm going to have to push back on how much the OT cared as well. Sure, in ANH you hear about some vague Clone Wars, and you get a comment about how the Senate has been abolished and is no longer needed because they have the Death Star and will use it to rule with fear. Which is an interesting idea and cool bit of world building. But then the Death Star is destroyed and...that never really comes up as an issue in politics. Did he have to bring the Senate back? Does he just rule with fear of all of their Star Destroyers? If he could do that, why didn't he do that before the Death Star? Sure, a 2nd one is built in ROTJ, but no one knows about that for years, so that isn't it. You'd expect the sequel to bring that up at all if it was interested in the politics of the galaxy. But I'll give you ANH. Bro, sit down. Star Wars was always a civil war analogy.
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a million bullshit explanations for why they dont do hyperdrive suicide runs, some of which were posted in this very thread, and they go with the dumbest possible one
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General Dog posted:Such a large percentage of the galaxy is either indifferent to the idea of an authoritarian government or actively yearns for one, I'm not really sure why we're even supposed to be rooting for the "freedom fighters" at this point. It's like what exactly is stopping the trillions of people that supported the Nazis for the last like 80 years from continuing to do so, especially considering we've shown all the "Resistance" figures are terrible leaders and the status quo hasn't changed in the slightest. Odds are there's another 5 or 6 years of peace and then another brand of Imperials come to power.
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ThePopeOfFun posted:I'm not super familiar with CD and I have never heard of the hillary man thing, so I wasn't sure if that was like an elaborate Goon'splanation or what. mostly a left twitter and C-SPAM thing, I think
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General Dog posted:They're white men who occasionally obliquely criticize #woke marketing of franchise films. They seem to be part of the segment of the population that had its brain shattered by The Last Jedi; the Plinkett review of the movie has a bit where, completely unprompted by the context of the movie, the guy says something like "watch out Poe, or you'll get arrested for MANSPLAINING!!!!!
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riseofmydick posted:Bro, sit down. I always saw the Orginals as WWII to be fair, but that one for the Prequels absolutely
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Boris Galerkin posted:The resistance was in hiding after hearing palpatine’s broadcast. Nobody wanted to fight but Poe gave a speech about how they will fight if someone leads them so Lando and Chewbacca take the falcon to go find those people during the time Poe and his small fleet was getting destroyed. I’m pretty sure the only thing the falcon did in the actual battle was go pick up Finn, who is now a general, off of the star destroyer he was on. gently caress yes. radio free sheev is the best
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riseofmydick posted:No Adam Driver is ugly as gently caress and has a really big snoz and should really have plastic surgery to correct it I'm sorry. Adam Driver just has a really long face that looks even more freakishly long housed inside that wavy longish round bob of a hairdo they gave him. Dude just needs to rock a goatee and a shorter, maybe spiky haircut. He'd look 90s as gently caress but it would work for him.
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So what do you think are the chances on them deciding to reboot the franchise again and making 7-9 not canon in a decade or two?
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Megazver posted:So what do you think are the chances on them deciding to reboot the franchise again and making 7-9 not canon in a decade or two? I'm willing to bet they actually cannot remake or decanonize the Lucas films per the deal they made with him (as it's already confirmed they can't re-edit them), and eliminating just their own films would be such a clear admission of failure that I can't see it happening
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Dec 19, 2019 22:54
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Megazver posted:So what do you think are the chances on them deciding to reboot the franchise again and making 7-9 not canon in a decade or two? Maybe J.J. can do a time travel reboot plot.
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Wait I thought ANH was entirely a way to get Americans to cheer for the VietKong?
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thrawn527 posted:I agree that JJ isn't interested in politics, but I'm going to have to push back on how much the OT cared as well. Sure, in ANH you hear about some vague Clone Wars, and you get a comment about how the Senate has been abolished and is no longer needed because they have the Death Star and will use it to rule with fear. Which is an interesting idea and cool bit of world building. But then the Death Star is destroyed and...that never really comes up as an issue in politics. Did he have to bring the Senate back? Does he just rule with fear of all of their Star Destroyers? If he could do that, why didn't he do that before the Death Star? Sure, a 2nd one is built in ROTJ, but no one knows about that for years, so that isn't it. You'd expect the sequel to bring that up at all if it was interested in the politics of the galaxy. But I'll give you ANH. The political reality of the galaxy isn't especially important to the plot of the OT, but it is comprehensible. The Empire is a galaxy spanning government, so it makes sense that they have more or less unlimited resources and manpower. The Rebellion is a mishmash of assorted interests that oppose the Empire for whatever reason, so it makes sense (as we see in ESB and RoTJ) that their personnel and fleet are more diverse. As far as the dissolution of the Senate, that's not really something the Emperor can undo. He's gone ahead and shown his hand and dropped the last pretense of democracy because he finally feels emboldened to do so. When the Death Star is destroyed, that makes him look just a little weaker. Put those two things together, and it might explain how the Rebellion continues to gain strength offscreen throughout the trilogy. Of course, this is all strung together from a few scattered pieces of dialogue, but you can construct a political narrative that more or less makes sense. I'd challenge anyone to do the same with the sequel trilogy.
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Megazver posted:So what do you think are the chances on them deciding to reboot the franchise again and making 7-9 not canon in a decade or two? It would be smarter to honestly just go back into established canon before the Phantom Menace and just do that. Plenty of stuff to turn into movie fodder. Of course they also had plenty of EU material to work with for these, and they just completely ignored that, soooo ...of course Abrams will do a time travel gimmick. Maybe Tatooine gets blown up this time! CHILLS
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2house2fly posted:They seem to be part of the segment of the population that had its brain shattered by The Last Jedi; the Plinkett review of the movie has a bit where, completely unprompted by the context of the movie, the guy says something like "watch out Poe, or you'll get arrested for MANSPLAINING!!!!! Their TLJ content certainly isn't their best work, but the "mansplaining" thing is basically exactly the spin a lot of TLJ's most ardent supporters have used to explain that subplot, so it's not exactly a non-sequitur. General Dog fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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Megazver posted:So what do you think are the chances on them deciding to reboot the franchise again and making 7-9 not canon in a decade or two? What's the point? The original cast would just about be gone (or not acting anymore) by then. It sounds like the status quo at the end of these movies is pretty open-ended; I'm not sure what they'd feel the need to retcon.
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Megazver posted:So what do you think are the chances on them deciding to reboot the franchise again and making 7-9 not canon in a decade or two? Nil, they'll just pivot away from numbered movies
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2house2fly posted:They seem to be part of the segment of the population that had its brain shattered by The Last Jedi; the Plinkett review of the movie has a bit where, completely unprompted by the context of the movie, the guy says something like "watch out Poe, or you'll get arrested for MANSPLAINING!!!!! but that's funny
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General Dog posted:Their TLJ content certainly isn't their best work, but the "mansplaining" thing is basically exactly the spin a lot of TLJ's most ardent supporters have used to explain that subplot. That plot is stupid and is literally just sloppy writing Just say you think the Imps have a spy on board and that's why Holdo can't tell Po. It's not that hard. It would explain her acting erratically as well. To throw the mole off TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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Dec 19, 2019 23:04
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TulliusCicero posted:...of course Abrams will do a time travel gimmick. I'm sad the "leaks" about this didn't turn out to be true this time.
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YaketySass posted:I'm sad the "leaks" about this didn't turn out to be true this time. Frankly I kind of miss the horrifying one about Rey being pregnant with Kylo's baby
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Zoran posted:I'm willing to bet they actually cannot remake or decanonize the Lucas films per the deal they made with him (as it's already confirmed they can't re-edit them), and eliminating just their own films would be such a clear admission of failure that I can't see it happening Hence 'in a decade or two'. Execs love making GBS threads on their predecessors' legacy.
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Zoran posted:Frankly I kind of miss the horrifying one about Rey being pregnant with Kylo's baby That's pretty bad but what about the part where she turns out to be Shmi, which means your wish fulfillment character and female rep's destiny is to spend the remaining years of her life enslaved and eventually horrifically tortured to death.
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YaketySass posted:That's pretty bad but what about the part where she turns out to be Shmi, which means your wish fulfillment character and female rep's destiny is to spend the remaining years of her life enslaved and eventually horrifically tortured to death. I'm really glad that horrifying idea never came true. The entire concept of that was just a combination of  and  Though again, Rey was far more interesting when she was just some nobody person with the force Other loving Jedi and Sith existed before the Skywalkers and Palpatine Disney, you loving hacks
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Shaocaholica posted:Hot take. She’s protecting Lucas from the ST blowback. If that's what you want to believe, go for it. I ain't stoppin' ya!
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:Adam Driver just has a really long face that looks even more freakishly long housed inside that wavy longish round bob of a hairdo they gave him. Dude just needs to rock a goatee and a shorter, maybe spiky haircut. He'd look 90s as gently caress but it would work for him. A little bit ugly but with fabulous hair worked for Luke and it works for Kylo too.
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My mind has gone blank. At one point someone (Sheeve?) orders a planet blown up. Because it ain't easy being a cop. Because it sure as hell isn't to terrify the galaxy, that's already been done by the First Order. Where did that ship come from?. All the OTHER planet destroying Star Destroyers are stuck on Planet X. Why is THAT ship able to leave first? Also, that ship is still flying around...unless the two we see falling down for no reason at Endor and Jakkuu are them? Or did it go BACK to Planet X and be destroyed...um, did the fleet get destroyed? Did it fall down when Sheeve cast lighting bolt- planet but keep falling after he stopped? I can't recall now. Comstar fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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They got Anakin's fabulous hair genes, but somehow didn't get his or Padme's incredibly beautiful face genes. Leia got the face but not the fabulous hair.
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Boris Galerkin posted:go pick up Finn, who is now a general, I do like that they're continuing the OT's storyline of the Rebels just randomly promoting people to general. "Han, you've spent the last six months as an ice cube. You're a general!" "Luke, you went AWOL to hang out with a puppet. You're a general!"
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Oh yeah, minor question on a D-plot from the first two movies- what happens to the Galaxy?
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Furthermore, When Chewie gets killed and Rey has a crises over it, I gave JJ props for doing that. I respected that and thought it would add a lot. Then we find out he was in another So our hero's go too old city world because there's ONE guy in the galaxy they know who can reset C3P0, ok fine. But why was Kylo's ship THERE at the same time? Or was the city on the same planet at as Party World? I did laugh and like the joke where Kylo says he doesn't know where Rey is when they fight over a distance, and she knocks over Vadar's helmet and looks embarrassed about it. Kylo walks out to tell the nearest Stormtrooper: I know where she is. She's in my bedroom. I bet the Stormtrooper must have been thinking "She's WHERE?!? Well Done My Lord". Comstar fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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General Dog posted:Oh yeah, minor question on a D-plot from the first two movies- what happens to the Galaxy? Why would you ask something so unimportant! Pfft So what planet does JJ Abrams blow up this time?! 
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Wait if R2 restored C-3PO's memories, does that mean 3PO remembers he's Luke and Leia's brother now? IS C-3PO the true surviving member of the Skywalker family?
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TulliusCicero posted:So what planet does JJ Abrams blow up this time?! I can't remember the name of it and that bothers me. There's a scene where Rey gets a gift from a child on it, and you see 30 cute kids laughing at a puppet show. They all die and you see the planet blowing up the point of view of their camp. It's actually rather haunting, more so than Jedhra getting destroyed. Furthermore, no one mentions it afterwards, so the planet died for no reason. Thanks JJ!
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