awful programming: feature flags and suffering

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necrotic: Aug 2, 2005; I owe my brother big time for this!

matti posted:

ah see but i'm a moron and use vi

i'll probably just bite the bullet and use the lawyer vetted option just to make it easier for any potential packagers

vi certainly has a way to do the auto insertion, and collapsing.

# ? Dec 20, 2019 01:02

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# ? Jun 2, 2024 06:56

necrotic: Aug 2, 2005; I owe my brother big time for this!

assuming you mean vim and not actual vi that is

# ? Dec 20, 2019 01:03

matti: Mar 31, 2019

but then i'd have to deal with vimscript and i would rather avoid that

eh i'll switch to emacs if it becomes an issue

# ? Dec 20, 2019 01:11

necrotic: Aug 2, 2005; I owe my brother big time for this!

someone else did the scripting https://vimawesome.com/plugin/vim-skeleton

# ? Dec 20, 2019 01:12

matti: Mar 31, 2019

i just assume any vim plugin will eventually break on some weird edge case and i'm stuck with debugging it

...i will try it, thank you

# ? Dec 20, 2019 01:14

Phobeste: Apr 9, 2006; never, like, count out Touchdown Tom, man

matti posted:

eh i'll switch to emacs if it becomes an issue

get ahead of the game op

# ? Dec 20, 2019 01:37

matti: Mar 31, 2019

i mean meth exists when push comes to shove, i'll do fine

# ? Dec 20, 2019 01:39

DaTroof: Nov 16, 2000; CC LIMERICK CONTEST GRAND CHAMPION
There once was a poster named Troof
Who was getting quite long in the toof

matti posted:

but then i'd have to deal with vimscript and i would rather avoid that

eh i'll switch to emacs if it becomes an issue

vim or emacs, the eternal question

# ? Dec 20, 2019 02:55

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

DaTroof posted:

emacs with vim emulation or vscode with vim emulation, the eternal question

# ? Dec 20, 2019 04:37

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

dr spacemacs

# ? Dec 20, 2019 05:06

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

whats a good OAuth provider that can be run inhouse? idk poo poo, is ORY any good?

https://www.ory.sh/run-oauth2-server-open-source-api-security/

# ? Dec 20, 2019 05:27

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

adfs

# ? Dec 20, 2019 05:29

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

well, adfs if you're doing openid connect.

# ? Dec 20, 2019 05:30

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

its for external users to connect to our dept projects so we cant put stuff on the company AD

# ? Dec 20, 2019 05:31

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

If you're looking to have the external users do federated auth then you can use ADFS to setup a trust between ADFS and the external user directory using saml, wsfed, or openid connect. Then you setup your app as a relying party in ADFS. When the user goes to auth in your app you kick them to adfs which kicks them to their own directory. You setup claims rules in ADFS so the claims are consistent when they come to your app.

If you need to maintain the user accounts, then something like azure b2c might be what you want.

if you need to mix external directories and managed accounts then you could have azure b2c handle the managed accounts and federating with the external directory or have azure b2c handle managed accounts and then federate azure b2c and external directories with ADFS.

Is this an in house application?

# ? Dec 20, 2019 05:45

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

I would HIGHLY recommend doing federated auth from the user's own directory if you can since managing external user accounts is the worst.

# ? Dec 20, 2019 05:46

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

whelp, had a guy who couldn�t answer the question:
Provided no overhead, how many megabytes per second can I download on a 1gigabit connection?

That�s it, that�s the whole question. He claimed to be a CCNA. :suicide:

# ? Dec 20, 2019 05:51

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

^^^ lomarf :rip:

^^^

Shaggar posted:

If you're looking to have the external users do federated auth then you can use ADFS to setup a trust between ADFS and the external user directory using saml, wsfed, or openid connect. Then you setup your app as a relying party in ADFS. When the user goes to auth in your app you kick them to adfs which kicks them to their own directory. You setup claims rules in ADFS so the claims are consistent when they come to your app.

If you need to maintain the user accounts, then something like azure b2c might be what you want.

if you need to mix external directories and managed accounts then you could have azure b2c handle the managed accounts and federating with the external directory or have azure b2c handle managed accounts and then federate azure b2c and external directories with ADFS.

Is this an in house application?

yeah, inhouse

we have some web apps that are for regular people (volunteers and such) and some other stuff thats for munis to do some secure PII stuff. idk what, thats not my table. there might be other types of users in there somewhere too.

right now its a hodge podge, so my boss wants to consolidate it & asked me what options we have

# ? Dec 20, 2019 05:59

Tanners: Dec 13, 2011; woof

Has the VS Code vim plugin improved much in the past year or so? Last time i tried to use it remember i couldn't even use :%s.

Meanwhile, the intellij vim plugin has been pretty fantastic except for the few times you have to go into a dialog and remember the normal keymap

# ? Dec 20, 2019 06:09

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

Krankenstyle posted:

^^^ lomarf ^^^

yeah, inhouse

we have some web apps that are for regular people (volunteers and such) and some other stuff thats for munis to do some secure PII stuff. idk what, thats not my table. there might be other types of users in there somewhere too.

right now its a hodge podge, so my boss wants to consolidate it & asked me what options we have

volunteers sounds like you need user account management, so maybe give azure ad b2c a look. It handles all kinds of poo poo for you. Otherwise look at similar providers. under no circumstances should you roll your own user management system in 2019.

Whatever account management solution you pick its going to need to be usable to auth into your app(s). if you only have one app then its fine to just setup fed auth directly between the app and both your internal identity provider and whichever account management solution you pick.

If you have multiple apps you want to do this for, then it makes more sense to setup ADFS with a trust to your local ad (done out of the box) and to the non-employee identity provider. Then you just need to configure all of your apps to talk to ADFS instead of each app needing to talk to each identity provider.

# ? Dec 20, 2019 06:16

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

Shaggar posted:

volunteers sounds like you need user account management, so maybe give azure ad b2c a look. It handles all kinds of poo poo for you. Otherwise look at similar providers. under no circumstances should you roll your own user management system in 2019.

Whatever account management solution you pick its going to need to be usable to auth into your app(s). if you only have one app then its fine to just setup fed auth directly between the app and both your internal identity provider and whichever account management solution you pick.

If you have multiple apps you want to do this for, then it makes more sense to setup ADFS with a trust to your local ad (done out of the box) and to the non-employee identity provider. Then you just need to configure all of your apps to talk to ADFS instead of each app needing to talk to each identity provider.

alright, thx

# ? Dec 20, 2019 06:22

Presto: Nov 22, 2002; Keep calm and Harry on.

CMYK BLYAT! posted:

pedant is vehemently opposed to exceptions as control flow. this is an anti-pattern. an affront to god.

Obviously pedant is wrong. The real problem is that exceptions are a terrible idea to start with. :colbert:

# ? Dec 20, 2019 07:08

dick traceroute: Feb 24, 2010; Open the pod bay doors, Hal.; Grimey Drawer

Tanners posted:

Has the VS Code vim plugin improved much in the past year or so? Last time i tried to use it remember i couldn't even use :%s.

Meanwhile, the intellij vim plugin has been pretty fantastic except for the few times you have to go into a dialog and remember the normal keymap

Well, I can tell you that :%s definitely works now
I have to spin up a real vim if I have a giant file and a macro I want to run for every line, (vscode+vim is MUCH slower for that sort of thing)

# ? Dec 20, 2019 08:00

CRIP EATIN BREAD: Jun 24, 2002; Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T; Soiled Meat

dick traceroute posted:

(vscode is MUCH slower for that sort of thing)

you could say that for everything this useless javascript abortion does

# ? Dec 20, 2019 08:10

dick traceroute: Feb 24, 2010; Open the pod bay doors, Hal.; Grimey Drawer

Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping

# ? Dec 20, 2019 08:52

cool av: Mar 2, 2013

Shaggar posted:

this is basically how entity framework works and its the loving worst thing ever.

you mean for joined collections on the orm objects? yeah those are bad and I just stopped using them after a while

# ? Dec 20, 2019 09:17

dick traceroute: Feb 24, 2010; Open the pod bay doors, Hal.; Grimey Drawer

The last project which used EF we spent an awful lot of time working around it. Sqlbulkcopy for big uploads
Making interim variables for parts of linq chains to avoid that unfixed bug
Etc
Using dapper in new projects, 'tis good. And supports postgres nicely

# ? Dec 20, 2019 09:29

Sagacity: May 2, 2003; Hopefully my epitaph will be funnier than my custom title.

dick traceroute posted:

Making interim variables for parts of linq chains to avoid that unfixed bug

This reminds me of when I was still doing C# and we were using NHibernate.Linq. It was crazily impossible to get any kind of query up and running without immediately running into all sorts of edge cases.

I think they rewrote it at some point to use something called relinq to normalize the incoming Linq queries but it feels like Microsoft kind of dropped the ball on that, making Linq providers so extremely complex to get right that basically almost nobody bothered.

# ? Dec 20, 2019 09:53

Powerful Two-Hander: Mar 10, 2004; Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.

I remember years ago some guy wrote our new purchasing system using some ancient version of entity framework/linq and it was all fine until production when performance completely tanked and it was never fixed

i "EF = bad" was the first of my strong anecdotal opinions on frameworks and it hasn't been wrong yet

# ? Dec 20, 2019 10:28

Powerful Two-Hander: Mar 10, 2004; Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.

vs has started trying to load debug symbols for an ancient dll dependency from some dudes my documents folder from 2004, what does the dll contain? gems like "drop_down_list_box_2-petes_use_this_one"

might be time to figure out why this is still in there while I'm doing a Christmas refractor

# ? Dec 20, 2019 10:31

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

ratbert90 posted:

whelp, had a guy who couldn�t answer the question:
Provided no overhead, how many megabytes per second can I download on a 1gigabit connection?

That�s it, that�s the whole question. He claimed to be a CCNA.

is it 128

# ? Dec 20, 2019 10:42

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

jesus WEP posted:

is it 128

that�s what the vendors want you to think

# ? Dec 20, 2019 11:14

DrPossum: May 15, 2004; i am not a surgeon

code:

[drpossum@foodcan ~]$ units
You have: 1 Gbit/s
You want: MB/s
	* 125

edit

code:

You have: 1 Gibit/s
You want: Mibyte/s
	* 128

I don't know how to pronounce these to differentiate them

DrPossum fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Dec 21, 2019

# ? Dec 21, 2019 00:38

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

imo you should pronounce the gibby ones like theyre spelled in order to discourage everyone from using them

# ? Dec 21, 2019 00:49

taqueso: Mar 8, 2004

pretty sure wikipedia has a guide, iirc its megabyte vs mibibyte, but it doesn't matter because no one cares or says them except sometimes science papers.

# ? Dec 21, 2019 01:14

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

i think apple changed their os so it reports 1 "GB" disk space as 9.x "MB" recently, whatever the nomenclature is? probably more honest when you get into the TB drives that dont actually contain n*1024^3 bytes or whatever

no idea when they did that though... feels like at least 2-3+ years ago? i just :f5:

the download button on all the linux isos i can find

# ? Dec 21, 2019 01:24

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

the correct solution would of course have been to fix the si system so that 1kg = 1024g, etc. idk why they had to complicate things instead

# ? Dec 21, 2019 02:38

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

it�s 1000/8.

125 Megabytes/s

It�s not even a gotcha question. if you claim to be a network engineer you should be able to know bit vs byte.

# ? Dec 21, 2019 06:42

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

ratbert90 posted:

it�s 1000/8.

125 Megabytes/s

It�s not even a gotcha question. if you claim to be a network engineer you should be able to know bit vs byte.

would you accept 128 MBps

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# ? Dec 21, 2019 08:21

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