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Mulva posted:I like how TFA makes the original characters failures, but TLJ at least attempts to give context to their failures, and then in walking back so much of what happens in TLJ and trying to repeat the original trilogy JJ just doubles down on making the original crew pathetic failures that accomplished nothing and have no legacy. The future is hopeless because the evil bad guy can always come back from death and the people that oppose him are fallible and mortal. A true modern mirror.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:10 |
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Tenzarin posted:I would like to talk about how this movie clearly show Rey grow as a character and also as proof that Rey is not a Mary Sue. God, shut up
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:12 |
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Man, it’s kinda hosed up how Leia kills herself purely to kill her son. She’s like, ah, I’ve had a clairvoyant flash that Kylo is engaged in a life or death duel. This is the perfect time to spend all my HP in order to telepathically distract him and thereby break his guard.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:18 |
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Tenzarin posted:I would like to talk about how this movie clearly show Rey grow as a character and also as proof that Rey is not a Mary Sue. Your posting is worse than TROS because the overwhelming majority of people involved in the production of it had no say in how it turned out but you....you chose to be this way.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:22 |
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This thread got me to rewatch obi wan darth maul fight. That sequence of them fighting right after Qui Gon is killed. Still dope as hell with them just wailing on each other.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:23 |
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Ferrinus posted:Man, it’s kinda hosed up how Leia kills herself purely to kill her son. She’s like, ah, I’ve had a clairvoyant flash that Kylo is engaged in a life or death duel. This is the perfect time to spend all my HP in order to telepathically distract him and thereby break his guard. It's a metaphor for Carrie Fisher killing herself to save us from this movie
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:23 |
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Raccooon posted:This thread got me to rewatch obi wan darth maul fight. That sequence of them fighting right after Qui Gon is killed. Still dope as hell with them just wailing on each other.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:26 |
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Darth maul was epic until he got cut in half and then never talked about again.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:27 |
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Ferrinus posted:Man, it’s kinda hosed up how Leia kills herself purely to kill her son. She’s like, ah, I’ve had a clairvoyant flash that Kylo is engaged in a life or death duel. This is the perfect time to spend all my HP in order to telepathically distract him and thereby break his guard. ...Yeah wait, what the gently caress? What was she even trying to accomplish? Hobo Clown posted:It's a metaphor for Carrie Fisher killing herself to save us from this movie That's not funny. I mean, it really shouldn't be funny, cuz goddamn.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:28 |
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Tenzarin posted:Darth maul was epic until he got cut in half and then never talked about again. At least until he shows up in the animated Clone Wars/Rebels stuff and turns into Local Sith Literally Too Angry to Die
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:31 |
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Pollyanna posted:...Yeah wait, what the gently caress? What was she even trying to accomplish? I believe the most charitable reading is that she was trying to kill “Kylo Ren” in hopes that he would be succeeded by “Ben Solo”, as he was. Whether he was literally meant to mess up a parry timing and take a blade to the gut or simply have a change of heart and stop fighting isn’t clear, but why else would she time her psychic kamikaze for exactly then and there?
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:33 |
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i like how the gently caress up the pacing and direction in that scene so it's like rey is watching kylo ren stop, turn around, stand there, drop his lightsaber, so she can then catch it, ignite it and stab him instead of it just being like a quick 'unintentional' kind of strike
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:35 |
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Blarghalt posted:At least until he shows up in the animated Clone Wars/Rebels stuff and turns into Local Sith Literally Too Angry to Die Clone Wars and Rebels impressed me with how they not only got me to give a poo poo about Maul, but he becomes one of the most interesting characters in the series It's kinda fascinating to find out what happens to one of Palpatine's pawns he discards after he uses them, and Maul using his knowledge of Sith subterfuge and intrigue to build his own criminal empire is fascinating
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:35 |
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Blarghalt posted:At least until he shows up in the animated Clone Wars/Rebels stuff and turns into Local Sith Literally Too Angry to Die
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:35 |
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Give me a loving Rogue Squadron movie. Just give me more side stories. I don’t care about Jedi and Sith, I want to see how a dude builds a Y-Wing.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:39 |
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A series set on a dingy city planet where a guy solves a different problem every week in exchange for a mechanical part, and at the end of the season it turns out he was collecting the parts to soup up his X-wing and he finishes it and flies away
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:41 |
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Ringo Star Get posted:Give me a loving Rogue Squadron movie. Just give me more side stories. I don’t care about Jedi and Sith, I want to see how a dude builds a Y-Wing. Rogue one and Solo are the best star war films.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:43 |
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what happened to the slave children not saved by our heroes who decided to save the space horses instead?
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:49 |
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They were rounded up by the First Order and put on the ships our heroes exploded.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:51 |
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Tenzarin posted:Rogue one and Solo are the best star war films. Rogue One didn't succeed in getting me to care much about its characters, and I barely remember much of it at all except for the space part of Battle of Scarif. And that's only because I looked it up on Youtube.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:52 |
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I mean I am not adverse to Macross Plus - But it's Star Wars. I am shocked actually that Star Wars hasn't added mecha yet. You'd think they'd bite that bullet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lvdp2VNzW8
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:55 |
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Ringo Star Get posted:Give me a loving Rogue Squadron movie. Just give me more side stories. I don’t care about Jedi and Sith, I want to see how a dude builds a Y-Wing. Top Gun but set in Star Wars
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:55 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Also at the end of Solo which must have confused people who were not aware of him surviving TPM has anyone who's fallen into a pit stayed dead in Star Wars, now? is boba fett Actually Dead this time or has the new, equally stupid EU let him escape the sarlacc again?
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:56 |
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Ferrinus posted:Man, it’s kinda hosed up how Leia kills herself purely to kill her son. She’s like, ah, I’ve had a clairvoyant flash that Kylo is engaged in a life or death duel. This is the perfect time to spend all my HP in order to telepathically distract him and thereby break his guard. I mean her son was working for space Hitler. At that point, either he gets his act together (which he did!) or she's just gotta hit the matricide button for the good of everybody else.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:57 |
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ungulateman posted:has anyone who's fallen into a pit stayed dead in Star Wars, now? is boba fett Actually Dead this time or has the new, equally stupid EU let him escape the sarlacc again? he'll pop up in the mandalorian sooner or later
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 02:59 |
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Tenzarin posted:Rogue one and Solo are the best star war films. Solo is barely even a film tbh
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 03:02 |
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moist turtleneck posted:mandalorian is great it's just a spaghetti western video game and that's all it is trying to be Yeah, it's what the main focus of Star Wars really should be. Not stupid Jedi/Sith bullshit.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 03:02 |
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I've heard people say that the Man Delorean is like Samurai Jack but Star Wars, c/d
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 03:04 |
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I was abroad for half a year when solo aired and I haven't watched it until now. Don't feel like I missed out on much. I can see rogue one beating TLJ at the home video. Everyone of my friends with the typical 1-6 movie collection added rogue one. No one added TLJ. I think I know one guy who got TFA on blu ray at a pile grab. E: MJeff posted:I've heard people say that the Man Delorean is like Samurai Jack but Star Wars, c/d It's a space western and it manages what no ST movie managed so far, a storyline that builds up on its past installments, although at first I didn't expect it to cast such an arc. Being the republic commando fanboy that I am I expected to be disappointed by a disney Era mandalorian but I was positively astonished. Combat Theory fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Dec 22, 2019 |
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MJeff posted:I've heard people say that the Man Delorean is like Samurai Jack but Star Wars, c/d Feels like it yeah. It’s more episodic than an overall arcing story. Main story is just them on the run and helping people along they way.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 03:08 |
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SeANMcBAY posted:Yeah, it's what the main focus of Star Wars really should be. Not stupid Jedi/Sith bullshit. For a long while I was part of an RPG site that ran a story set in the Unknown Regions that crossed over Star Wars and Stargate. The main rule in it was No Jedi/Sith/Force-powers. It was awesome. We haven't run a proper scenario since 2017 so the site is really more of a social thing, but no-Jedi Star Wars was really great.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 03:15 |
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Onmi posted:Depends, there was an original treatment. Treatments aren't scripts (They're more like outlines with plot beats and an act structure along with characters) but regardless Rian tossed it all aside and simply said JJ didn't give him anything, which JJ was like "Yes I did." Just in case these films being a glorified Wookiepedia edit war wasn't clear enough.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 03:21 |
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Everyone posted:For a long while I was part of an RPG site that ran a story set in the Unknown Regions that crossed over Star Wars and Stargate. The main rule in it was No Jedi/Sith/Force-powers. Personally I wish they had taken that scene from Genndy Clone Wars where Mace Windu hosed up a bunch of robots with force kung fu and gone somewhere with it. Like there could be different ways the force is applied beyond "laser sword" and "laser sword with another laser sword attached"
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 03:23 |
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raditts posted:Personally I wish they had taken that scene from Genndy Clone Wars where Mace Windu hosed up a bunch of robots with force kung fu and gone somewhere with it. Like there could be different ways the force is applied beyond "laser sword" and "laser sword with another laser sword attached" But, but aren't forgetting "dude/robot with 6-10 extra laser swords attached?" That's a totally different application.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 03:29 |
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This movie made me hate TLJ more just because it was a reaction to all the poo poo that happened in it. Also did Leia's lightsaber turn from green to blue? Also the young faces for Mark Hamil and Carrier Fisher when they showed Leia's Jedi training was so bad. Also I still can't believe they had Kylo and Rey kiss.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 03:31 |
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Just have Gennedy do a sequel movie but it’s animated, but never acknowledged that in the run-up, press or trailer.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 03:32 |
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raditts posted:Personally I wish they had taken that scene from Genndy Clone Wars where Mace Windu hosed up a bunch of robots with force kung fu and gone somewhere with it. Like there could be different ways the force is applied beyond "laser sword" and "laser sword with another laser sword attached" I hated that ep, because it turns the Force into superpowers, and Jedi into superhumans. Like when you watch the Genenosis Arena battle, there's several dozen Jedi and a hundred Battle Droids, and when it's over, there's dead Jedi everywhere.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 03:32 |
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Combat Pretzel posted:So the same poo poo like "We don't have any source material, ignore those 50 novels and god knows how many comics", just on a smaller level? Basically. It's just like JJ saying TLJ was vital to telling Episode 9 and he's SUPER happy to have Rose Tico as a character and then proceeding to dumpster literally everything. It's pretty clear marketing double think like "We're super happy with TLJ, nothing is wrong, everything is fine." And then turns out, actually, nothing is okay. Like for all the people here going "What about merchandising" It's not doing as well as Disney would like, the toy sections themselves are shrinking and there's a lot of surplus. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying "No one's buying Star Wars Toys" but they are not being sold to the amount I'm sure Disney would prefer.
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 03:32 |
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Just saw the flick. Thought it was decent, better than tfa, worse than tlj
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# ? Dec 22, 2019 03:40 |
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Gaunab posted:This movie made me hate TLJ more just because it was a reaction to all the poo poo that happened in it. Also did Leia's lightsaber turn from green to blue? Also the young faces for Mark Hamil and Carrier Fisher when they showed Leia's Jedi training was so bad. Also I still can't believe they had Kylo and Rey kiss. Yes, her lightsaber in the flashbacks was green but in present day it was blue, I noticed this too.
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