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Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

Trotsky was the worlds first something awful poster, bad dick game little annoying egghead goblin whos vendetta against the mods led to repeated exile and then permaban.

He even created his own off-site

Dreddout fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Dec 25, 2019

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Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Dreddout posted:

He even created his own off-site

and had a ton of friends in the U.S. state department and various western intelligence services

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Venom Snake posted:

and had a ton of friends in the U.S. state department and various western intelligence services

Red Moses

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
hello i am trotski a poor activist exiled from his home country by a autocrat, please president Roosevelt send oil to the imperial japanese navy so they may liberate my people

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
Leon convincing people to buy him pants to help him overthrow the government

IWW Online Branch
Apr 20, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
So the tendency of trots being grotesque perverts goes all the way back to the beginning.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

trotsky with a homegroan database of colleagues

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
don't post trotskyhaus or you'll get banned from his newsletter

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




happy marxmas, may the world-sized ghost give you communism instead of icepicks

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

Dreddout posted:

He even created his own off-site

lol

1982 Subaru Brat
Feb 2, 2007

by Athanatos
the nigerian prince scam but it's trotsky promising that you'll be appointed to the politburo

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

Trotsky was the worlds first something awful poster, bad dick game little annoying egghead goblin whos vendetta against the mods led to repeated exile and then permaban.


:hmmyes:

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Trash Ops posted:

trotsky is constantly funny (in laughing at way) nsfw lmao

laughing my loving dick off to orbit over here

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Peanut President posted:

don't post trotskyhaus or you'll get banned from his newsletter

his house was v nice and a short stroll from frieda’s workshop in cdmx

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

San miguel de allende has tons of Frida and trotsky art but I dont think either lived there

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A A NEWSPAPER ONTO MY TABLE. ITS THE SOCIALIST ALTERNATIVE AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, TROTSKY. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME STALINIST BASTARDS OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE INTERNATIONALS MOST DEFORMED WORKER'S STATE. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY COLLEGE CLASS AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN COLLEGE CLASS CAN STILL BE COUNTER-REVOLUTIONARY JERKS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE SLOGANS AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY APARTMENT LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNING. THEN I SPLIT

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Dreddout posted:

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A A NEWSPAPER ONTO MY TABLE. ITS THE SOCIALIST ALTERNATIVE AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, TROTSKY. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME STALINIST BASTARDS OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE INTERNATIONALS MOST DEFORMED WORKER'S STATE. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY COLLEGE CLASS AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN COLLEGE CLASS CAN STILL BE COUNTER-REVOLUTIONARY JERKS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE SLOGANS AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY APARTMENT LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNING. THEN I SPLIT

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Dreddout posted:

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A A NEWSPAPER ONTO MY TABLE. ITS THE SOCIALIST ALTERNATIVE AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, TROTSKY. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME STALINIST BASTARDS OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE INTERNATIONALS MOST DEFORMED WORKER'S STATE. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY COLLEGE CLASS AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN COLLEGE CLASS CAN STILL BE COUNTER-REVOLUTIONARY JERKS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE SLOGANS AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY APARTMENT LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNING. THEN I SPLIT

4/5 missing the lower-case ing at the end

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
It's so funny that people still claim to descend ideologically from a guy who's main claim to fame is that nobody liked him

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

How does Bukharin fit within this split?

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

Maximo Roboto posted:

How does Bukharin fit within this split?

he united with Stalin against the left opposition and was handsomely rewarded with an execution a decade later

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

apropos to nothing posted:

he united with Stalin against the left opposition and was handsomely rewarded with an execution a decade later

shouldn’t have opposed the October uprising then

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

Raskolnikov38 posted:

shouldn’t have opposed the October uprising then

lol guess that’s why it took 20 years later to kill him. Stalin literally supported the provisional government until like mid 17 and Trotsky led the October revolution as president of the Petrograd soviet and we see where that got him. basically it’s almost like democratic debate within a party is a good thing and we prolly shouldn’t kill revolutionaries who disagree with the party leadership?

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
imagine people not wanting to join your movement which promises them a life of personal hardship and sacrifice for a better world which ultimately culminates in their execution and rewriting history so all of their sacrifices are treason

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

i say swears online posted:

4/5 missing the lower-case ing at the end

3/5, no JEKRS

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHYblUMHfDA

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

apropos to nothing posted:

lol guess that’s why it took 20 years later to kill him. Stalin literally supported the provisional government until like mid 17 and Trotsky led the October revolution as president of the Petrograd soviet and we see where that got him. basically it’s almost like democratic debate within a party is a good thing and we prolly shouldn’t kill revolutionaries who disagree with the party leadership?

The New Course was a terrible idea.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

apropos to nothing posted:

lol guess that’s why it took 20 years later to kill him. Stalin literally supported the provisional government until like mid 17 and Trotsky led the October revolution as president of the Petrograd soviet and we see where that got him. basically it’s almost like democratic debate within a party is a good thing and we prolly shouldn’t kill revolutionaries who disagree with the party leadership?

Saying Trotsky "disagreed" with the party leadership is putting it lightly. Trotsky's downfall came because politics doesn't suddenly stop after the revolution. You just can't be a bad politician in a contest for power, and decision making within the party will never be a simple process of abstractly debating the merits of a policy within the party organs. At some level people need a reason to support you beyond the idea that your proposals are obviously and self-evidently the best.

Pener Kropoopkin fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Dec 25, 2019

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
if you disagree with the ideas of the left opposition that’s fine, I’m just saying that people you disagree with who are committed to revolution prolly shouldn’t be murdered. like all the Bolsheviks Stalin included for that matter gave their lives to revolution and sacrificed almost everything they had to realize it. it’s kinda sad how modern day revolutionaries like cheerlead the Stalinist terror where those same Bolsheviks were sent to their deaths singing the internationale. imagine trying to recruit people to a movement where that’s the legacy to look forward to. the purges and assasinations and executions can’t just be waved away they were the thermodor of the Russian revolution

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
let’s kill revolutionaries. it was good that robespierre killed danton and the ultras, it’s obviously what saved the French Revolution

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Relitigating Trotsky as if he did nothing wrong and then conflating him with everyone who died in the terror is a bit dishonest imo. There's a big middle ground between "kill anybody who doesn't follow the party line" and "being a revolutionary means you get a 'get out of party discipline free' card."

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Relitigating Trotsky as if he did nothing wrong and then conflating him with everyone who died in the terror is a bit dishonest imo. There's a big middle ground between "kill anybody who doesn't follow the party line" and "being a revolutionary means you get a 'get out of party discipline free' card."

so if that’s your position then ok kick him out of the party for breaking party discipline and then don’t murder him and his kids. like I’m not relitigating trotsky, if you think the left opposition and him were wrong whatever, just don’t kill them.

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
please don’t conflate trotsky with everyone who was killed in the terror, though they also deserved it and were counter revolutionary traitors who death was too good for

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
im gonna kill trotsky and his kids right now

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
like this all started cause someone asked about bukharin who was murdered in the purges and who was on stalins side during the party fight with the left opposition

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

apropos to nothing posted:

so if that’s your position then ok kick him out of the party for breaking party discipline and then don’t murder him and his kids. like I’m not relitigating trotsky, if you think the left opposition and him were wrong whatever, just don’t kill them.

Trotsky got killed because he refused to take the L in exile and continued agitating for a revolution within the Soviet Union, which continues creating splits within the international movement even to this day because weirdos like you can’t let it go.

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apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
yeah I want to build a socialist society but I also don’t want to be murdered by you

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