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Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
For a second I thought that was a 2010s list and was about to roast you so hard for including the Martyrs remake but nah you're good. The original is great.

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Sarchasm
Apr 14, 2002

So that explains why he did not answer. He had no mouth to answer with. There is nothing left of him but his ears.

married but discreet posted:

Oh wow, slept on The Inkeepers for almost a decade, what a well done little spookadoodle. Extremely charming! That's 2/2 for me from Ti West, what did the guy do for his career to not take off?

He partnered with Eli Roth to make The Sacrament. It's a very lazy found footage film that takes most of its inspiration from the Jonestown cult. It killed all the momentum of his career, then he followed up with a western that nobody watched.

It's a drat shame, too, because House of the Devil is one of my favorite horror films, and The Inkeepers is really solid, but that's where he just fizzled out.

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006
I like The Sacrament. I think you can rag on it being exploitive for basically just scratching the names off of the Jonestown incident, but I think the basic dramatic question of if something like that could happen in modern day is a good one. I think it's a fun commentary on the idea that our heavily recorded world gives us a false sense of not being able to be taken in.

I'd love for him to make another cool indie horror film, but I think he was sort of doomed to never really take off. I don't think he really was ever going to make a Babadook or Hereditary or It Follows or The Witch or Get Out... And I couldn't see him going the more middle of the road route that Muscietti and Flanagan found.

Ti West is like the Moses of prestige horror. His work undeniably felt like something special after an uneven couple of decades for horror, and I think there are a lot of these really interesting and weird indie movies from 2010-2014 that really paved the way for the current horror landscape. But I think once you had some of their weirder and indie movies really breakout like It Follows did or The Babadook did I think a lot of that stuff and West's work ends up feeling a bit more quaint.

But he's a TV journeyman who got to spend his late 20s/early 30s making pretty good horror movies. And that ain't bad.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

My only complaint about The Sacrament is that it basically offers very little commentary on the nature of cults, or what happened at Jonestown; it simply retells the incidents of the tragedy with fictional inserts included. It feels like there could have been more exploration in the narrative.

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006

Tart Kitty posted:

My only complaint about The Sacrament is that it basically offers very little commentary on the nature of cults, or what happened at Jonestown; it simply retells the incidents of the tragedy with fictional inserts included. It feels like there could have been more exploration in the narrative.
My take on it is that Jonestown feels like something that shouldn't be able to happen with Twitter and cellphones. And yet these Vice reporters are almost had by the charismatic leader. Technology doesn't insulate us from bullshitters, frauds, and ideologies. It seems prescient to me.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

This one sentence from The Lighthouse script sums up the entire film:

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

also horror circle I somehow forgot:

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
I saw the new Grudge movie and it was really bad

married but discreet
May 7, 2005


Taco Defender

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

I saw the new Grudge movie and it was really bad

Explain please.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

:emptyquoute:

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

I never saw the original but the opening scene (about 30 seconds) explains that if you go to Japan, a malevolent ghost will follow you anywhere on earth and will kill you or possess you and make you kill everyone around you. This is the entire explanation for the goings-on of the film

In one of the earliest scenes a Ghost Specialist or a retired Cop (forget which) explains to a new detective that if she goes into a specific house (44 Fourth Lane, just off 4 Street) then she will be killed, as all the previous residents of the house have been killed and every detective working the Murder House Case have been killed. "Ya just can't go into that house, or you'll die", he promises.

What follows is an hour long montage of three different generations of residents of the house, who start noticing things are amiss in the house (strange noises are heard, and a long haired woman frequently jumps out at them and YELLS in your face before killing you) before, a day or two later, the ghost (who alternates between a child or a grown woman) jumps out at them and kills them. The 3 generations of killings all appear to happen in the same ~1 year span and the same realtor sells the house each time, but he's not an accomplice of the ghost.

The lead lady realizes, oh gosh, it's as I was warned, anyone who ever went in the house was killed! I'll probably be killed soon! And the final scene is the long haired ghost jumping out at her and killing her.

The movie makes good on all its promises, but it's just... I don't know. It felt like everyone who was in the movie lost a bet and had to do this as punishment?

Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!
That sounds exactly like a Ju On movie.

King of Solomon
Oct 23, 2008

S S

Origami Dali posted:

That sounds exactly like a Ju On movie.

Yeah, I just got back from the movie myself. It was decidedly decent. The big thing that it does, as GoGoGadgetChris described, is have a really disjointed story. Like the original Ju-On films, it has several different storylines that take place over several years that are split up and distributed throughout the movie. So you'll have some scenes that take place in 2006 sandwiched between scenes that take place in 2005, and so on; nothing unusual for Ju-On there.

The other side of the equation, though, is that it was definitely an Americanized version of the film structure. So, for example, the notable thing about Toshio is that he shows up in weird places, and you often only know that he's there because he meows and hisses like a cat. Melinda, by contrast, is dead silent. She just kinda exists and makes people think she's still alive. This sort of translation applies to the adult ghosts as well. There's nothing as iconic as Kayako crawling down the stairs from the original films.

So...yeah. Less creepy, more reliant on jump scares, but a decent Ju-On style film.

Snack Bitch
May 15, 2008

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!
New Grudge getting slammed on letterbox, seems like another promising director with a lovely remake.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Wow this Dracula show has the whackest 3rd act I've ever seen in my entire 34 years of existence.

(By that I mean episode 3, out of 3)

Holy poo poo watch this just to experience the whiplash of two great episodes followed by a slimy dribbling turd from a butt.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm
Halloween II (2009)

I haven’t laughed this hard in a while.

Michael Myers kills and eats a dog.

Hey Rob, if you want to try to explore the lasting ramifications of a traumatic violent event on somebody’s psyche, that’s cool, but maybe don’t do it in a movie where someone kills and eats a dog

Your command of dialogue remains unparalleled. Characters say gently caress a lot so you know they’re serious.

Oh, and Rob, please look up ‘tact’ in a dictionary so you’ll understand why an “emotional” scene of someone seeing a dead loved one doesn’t quite work when the room is inexplicably covered in 50 gallons of blood and she’s splayed out nude (the second I saw that bathrobe earlier I knew it was coming). Also the other nude woman repeatedly getting her face smashed into a mirror sure was a cool scene that I enjoyed watching. Why yes I also love 20 minute dream sequences

I haven’t minded Sheri Moon before but she was absolutely dire in this.

Ending on a ludicrous slow-motion fall and Love Hurts was comedy gold though, I haven’t laughed that hard since Michael Myers killed and ate a dog

I find this man to be kind of sad. He’s not completely devoid of directing/writing talent but it seems like he’s so insecure that he feels the need to filter everything through the mind of an edgelord teenager.

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

david_a posted:

I find this man to be kind of sad. He’s not completely devoid of directing/writing talent but it seems like he’s so insecure that he feels the need to filter everything through the mind of an edgelord teenager.

Maybe he just honestly thinks it's rad and funny.

Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!
myers killed and ate a dog in the original halloween

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

Origami Dali posted:

myers killed and ate a dog in the original halloween
OK fine I forgot all about that and it kind of kills my amazing attempt at humor, but he didn’t start chowing down on it on-screen in 1978

david_a fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Jan 6, 2020

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
It'd be rad and funny if he did, though.

gey muckle mowser
Aug 5, 2003

Do you know anything about...
witches?



Buglord
somewhere, Kvlt!’s poser alarm is going off

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



david_a posted:

Halloween II (2009)

I haven’t laughed this hard in a while.

Michael Myers kills and eats a dog.

Hey Rob, if you want to try to explore the lasting ramifications of a traumatic violent event on somebody’s psyche, that’s cool, but maybe don’t do it in a movie where someone kills and eats a dog

Your command of dialogue remains unparalleled. Characters say gently caress a lot so you know they’re serious.

Oh, and Rob, please look up ‘tact’ in a dictionary so you’ll understand why an “emotional” scene of someone seeing a dead loved one doesn’t quite work when the room is inexplicably covered in 50 gallons of blood and she’s splayed out nude (the second I saw that bathrobe earlier I knew it was coming). Also the other nude woman repeatedly getting her face smashed into a mirror sure was a cool scene that I enjoyed watching. Why yes I also love 20 minute dream sequences

I haven’t minded Sheri Moon before but she was absolutely dire in this.

Ending on a ludicrous slow-motion fall and Love Hurts was comedy gold though, I haven’t laughed that hard since Michael Myers killed and ate a dog

I find this man to be kind of sad. He’s not completely devoid of directing/writing talent but it seems like he’s so insecure that he feels the need to filter everything through the mind of an edgelord teenager.

I find this post to be kind of sad. It's completely devoid of any appreciation for directing and writing talent and it seems like he's so insecure he needs to filter everything through the mind of a massive poser.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


i just watched IT Chapter 2 and while i loved Ransome and Hader, the rest of the movie was pretty aggressively bad. what a waste of Bill Skarsgaard

TheOmegaWalrus
Feb 3, 2007

by Hand Knit
What we’ve got here is failure to communicate.

Some men you just can't reach.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

gey muckle mowser posted:

somewhere, Kvlt!’s poser alarm is going off

Sir I wear my Poser Crown with honor (I don’t think I’ve actually seen any Flanagan or Wan* movies though)

I am happy that our dear Kvlt! finds joy in Mr Zombie’s cinematic output but after seeing four of his films you would have to pay me to watch more of them.

* Completely unrelated, but looking through James Wan’s filmography I found out they’re remaking Mortal Kombat
:ughh:

david_a fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Jan 6, 2020

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

david_a posted:

Halloween II (2009)

I haven’t laughed this hard in a while.

Michael Myers kills and eats a dog.

Hey Rob, if you want to try to explore the lasting ramifications of a traumatic violent event on somebody’s psyche, that’s cool, but maybe don’t do it in a movie where someone kills and eats a dog

Your command of dialogue remains unparalleled. Characters say gently caress a lot so you know they’re serious.

Oh, and Rob, please look up ‘tact’ in a dictionary so you’ll understand why an “emotional” scene of someone seeing a dead loved one doesn’t quite work when the room is inexplicably covered in 50 gallons of blood and she’s splayed out nude (the second I saw that bathrobe earlier I knew it was coming). Also the other nude woman repeatedly getting her face smashed into a mirror sure was a cool scene that I enjoyed watching. Why yes I also love 20 minute dream sequences

I haven’t minded Sheri Moon before but she was absolutely dire in this.

Ending on a ludicrous slow-motion fall and Love Hurts was comedy gold though, I haven’t laughed that hard since Michael Myers killed and ate a dog

I find this man to be kind of sad. He’s not completely devoid of directing/writing talent but it seems like he’s so insecure that he feels the need to filter everything through the mind of an edgelord teenager.

The thing is, I don't think it's insecurity, or he would have dropped it by now. He's made a grand total of one movie that couldn't be described as "Rob Zombie as gently caress," Lords of Salem, and it's still got one foot in all the poo poo he likes, it's just a little more overtly serious about it than usual.

The more obvious answer is that Zombie just... really likes over-the-top edgy poo poo. Like, that's kind of been his brand forever.

Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!
Think it's worth tracking down some of the porn Wes Craven made in the 70s?

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

The thing is, I don't think it's insecurity, or he would have dropped it by now. He's made a grand total of one movie that couldn't be described as "Rob Zombie as gently caress," Lords of Salem, and it's still got one foot in all the poo poo he likes, it's just a little more overtly serious about it than usual.

The more obvious answer is that Zombie just... really likes over-the-top edgy poo poo. Like, that's kind of been his brand forever.

Apparently he directed an episode of CSI: Miami (!). I’m actually curious what that’s like since he would presumably be on a tight leash for something that mainstream.

Almost Blue
Apr 18, 2018

Origami Dali posted:

Think it's worth tracking down some of the porn Wes Craven made in the 70s?

As somebody who has, nah

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

What the gently caress is Corgi?

https://twitter.com/pophorrornews/status/1213890432133992449?s=21

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Evil Dead yeah

M_Sinistrari
Sep 5, 2008

Do you like scary movies?



ruddiger posted:

What the gently caress is Corgi?

Probably the person who made the graphic.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


M_Sinistrari posted:

Probably the person who made the graphic.

That is correct: https://corgi-creative.com/2019/08/21/horror-movie-map-of-the-united-states/

But also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4rQQu7AN6E

Sarchasm
Apr 14, 2002

So that explains why he did not answer. He had no mouth to answer with. There is nothing left of him but his ears.


Get your poo poo together, Wyoming

sponges
Sep 15, 2011

I didn’t know Fright Night takes place in Iowa

Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!
Alabama, Mississippi, and Georgia are pretty shameful. Dude has to be missing something.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Drunkboxer posted:

Oh and that chalk circle the dude draws in a panic in Viy.



Viy is such a great story, I think it's high time we make another movie version of Viy.

Don't get me wrong the original Viy movie is a good film, I just want to see what a modern version would look like.

Stink Billyums
Jul 7, 2006

MAGNUM

david_a posted:

Halloween II (2009)

Halloween 2 is my second lowest rated movie of 2009, only beat out by that absolute mess Bayformers 2.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

david_a posted:

* Completely unrelated, but looking through James Wan’s filmography I found out they’re remaking Mortal Kombat
:ughh:

Get the gently caress on down. :gritin:

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Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
The car crash scene in Halloween II is one of the most effectively painful to watch things I've seen though. Like, the experience of trying to move after an accident and your body just... not working, and all you can say is "oh gently caress, oh gently caress" while you're panicking about what just happened to you - it's very accurately portrayed.

I think there's a lot wrong with Halloween II (2009, dir. Robert Zombie), but I still remember that scene well.

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