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dwarf74 posted:I have been told to go with Vallejo. For the record, this is anything. It's cheap and easy to strip any acrylic paint from a model if you're really dissatisfied with the paint job.
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Zurai posted:For the record, this is anything. It's cheap and easy to strip any acrylic paint from a model if you're really dissatisfied with the paint job. But yeah, for scenery, grab a bunch of $1 colors and go crazy. For the character minis, it comes down to what you're willing to accept. I've painted easily a couple of hundred miniatures with a wide variety of paints, and I don't think I could go back to the cheap stuff for any minis that I really care about.
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CommonShore posted:What kind of 3d printer? I've been contemplating getting one... I asked this recently in the 3d printer thread and they said they anycubic photon for miniatures.
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The main reason I suggested GW contrast paints is that they do most of the work for you in a single layer and save tons of time. But part of the fun of painting is trying different things so experiment and see what you like and what works for you 
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I asked this recently in the 3d printer thread and they said they anycubic photon for miniatures. Yeah, for minis you really need a good quality SLS resin printer, FDM just can't get small enough layer height to avoid the layer lines that are acceptable and removable on props and larger minis, but for Gloomhaven sizes will just look like crap.
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CommonShore posted:What kind of 3d printer? I've been contemplating getting one...  thespaceinvader posted:Yeah, for minis you really need a good quality SLS resin printer, FDM just can't get small enough layer height to avoid the layer lines that are acceptable and removable on props and larger minis, but for Gloomhaven sizes will just look like crap.
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thespaceinvader posted:Yeah, for minis you really need a good quality SLS resin printer, FDM just can't get small enough layer height to avoid the layer lines that are acceptable and removable on props and larger minis, but for Gloomhaven sizes will just look like crap. I wonder if you could use full three-axis printing to avoid the jaggies on the edges of the part.
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Jabor posted:I wonder if you could use full three-axis printing to avoid the jaggies on the edges of the part. I mean, all 3d printing is 3-axis, but I assume you mean like a robot arm with full 3d movement and a print head on the end? I mean, you could, but a: the slicing sofware would have to be SUPER weird given that you'd be building it from the inside out rather than the bottom up and b: that doesn't really exist I don't think and c: it would probably cost more than an SLS printer if it did.
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thespaceinvader posted:I mean, all 3d printing is 3-axis, but I assume you mean like a robot arm with full 3d movement and a print head on the end? I mean like this: https://youtu.be/gmePlcU0TRw Your typical 3d printing is like, 2.5 axis - you lay down a 2d layer, step up one step, repeat. But the stepper motors on your machine probably have much finer z-axis control than that, so if you're willing to hack gcode a bit you can print angled surfaces (subject to limits on not crashing the print head into the stuff you've already printed).
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dwarf74 posted:Oh I just got the entry-level Monoprice Select v2. But it's sufficient for cool Gloomhaven stuff like this chest.... Which is uploading rotated for some reason. Eh it’s really not bad once you have a good workflow. The results are worth the gloves and mask and cleanup.
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Jabor posted:I mean like this: https://youtu.be/gmePlcU0TRw Most of those little lumps are about the size of a 28mm mini's entire face. This would probably give acceptable fidelity for like... 100mm minis to not look like garbage tho.
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I'm really looking to start a regular game but I was curious about everyone's opinion here about the minimum/ideal number of players to regularly have to make this worthwhile.
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sportsgenius86 posted:I'm really looking to start a regular game but I was curious about everyone's opinion here about the minimum/ideal number of players to regularly have to make this worthwhile. It works fine for 2 players. Hell, it's probably worth it at 1.
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sportsgenius86 posted:I'm really looking to start a regular game but I was curious about everyone's opinion here about the minimum/ideal number of players to regularly have to make this worthwhile. Our group has really irregular players. It just means that different days we have different group compositions. It causes no problems whatsoever.
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sportsgenius86 posted:I'm really looking to start a regular game but I was curious about everyone's opinion here about the minimum/ideal number of players to regularly have to make this worthwhile. Ideal is 4 but it's designed so well that 1 2 or 3 wotk just fine.
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I think that the optimal number is 4 but people seem to have fun with anywhere from 1 to 6 players with custom house rules to make that work. The game is also already designed around having characters that aren't all the same level anyway so irregular players are okay!
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We play with 2 but it makes it where you have to have your roles be more well defined and each of us are expected to do enough dps and heals to carry themselves early. Once you unlock some of the classes and retire some characters, it's much easier to be flexible.
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Thank you all. I appreciate it!
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There is a problem with going over 4 active players in a campaign in that the item lists and player attack modifier decks become more complicated over time and are annoying to deal with. However, the game's really good at 2 players and just gets better up to 4
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You can use the monster modifier deck for player 5. Doesn't solve the issues with items though.
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I think I’ve had the most fun at 3 players, but I also regularly play with 2-4 and it’s a great experience at any number. I like 3 a lot because it’s slightly less dependent on team composition (poo poo, Cthulhu and spellweaver this week?) but still has the challenge of more monsters and a few elites, but you also get turns more often than with 4. I guess my 4th player has almost always been a less experienced board gamer who takes longer on their turns though, so that might bias me a bit...
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2 players is fine but several classes are severely restricted/underpowered when you play with that many. Wish I had more friends so I could play those specialized/support classes without just making a worse version of another class.
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sportsgenius86 posted:I'm really looking to start a regular game but I was curious about everyone's opinion here about the minimum/ideal number of players to regularly have to make this worthwhile. The balance for 2P is slightly off with regard to viable parties and certain campaign goals. On the other hand I've played 50+ scenarios with 2P and have every intention of picking up Subtitle and Frosthaven to play more.
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sirtommygunn posted:2 players is fine but several classes are severely restricted/underpowered when you play with that many. Wish I had more friends so I could play those specialized/support classes without just making a worse version of another class. You can play 2 characters each!
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People commonly cite the saw as being bad at 2P, but I cant think of a class that would have more of a disproportionate impact on the game at that count
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Control Volume posted:People commonly cite the saw as being bad at 2P, but I cant think of a class that would have more of a disproportionate impact on the game at that count My wife loves saw at 2p. It basically doubles my longevity.
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Control Volume posted:People commonly cite the saw as being bad at 2P, but I cant think of a class that would have more of a disproportionate impact on the game at that count
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Kalli posted:There is a problem with going over 4 active players in a campaign in that the item lists and player attack modifier decks become more complicated over time and are annoying to deal with. Our group has about ~7 semi-regular players and we just all share the same 4 player characters so there's no deck switching involved. Tends to work pretty well. We play if we can hit a quorum of 3, and usually do a double-header so we can accommodate up to 8 if we want over the course of the afternoon (though 4-5 per day has been typical). Though we give top priority to the people who haven't played in the longest, there has never been a time I needed to sit one out. The only house rule I've felt like I've needed so far is to make card selections at level-up not fixed (because different people might like to play the character in different ways). Everybody needs to play a legal hand that could have been the result of levels but that can change every time a new person picks up the deck. Item purchases, enhancements, perks, and event outcomes are still permanent to the character (though we have a list of enhancements ideas for each unlocked class that the whole group likes, and prefer people to pick from that list). The major downside is kind of the same as the major upside: the experience of the classes is wide but shallow. I've played 5 different classes so far in 3+ missions out of 22 scenarios completed, where the typical experience might have been to play 1-2 over that time. I like that variety, but understand that I'm probably not as good as I would be otherwise (though we generally squeak by and haven't actually had a tko yet).
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Is it just me or does Music Note level up SUPER fast? It makes sense since you gain at least 1 exp every turn with your song up, I’m already a couple levels ahead of everyone else.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Is it just me or does Music Note level up SUPER fast? It makes sense since you gain at least 1 exp every turn with your song up, I’m already a couple levels ahead of everyone else. In one scenario we realized we had failed but I alone as music note had a bunch of turns left. I decided to see how much xp I could get and ended up with 44xp on a failed mission. It's insane.
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Elephant Ambush posted:You can play 2 characters each! My friend doesn't want to. 
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Is it just me or does Music Note level up SUPER fast? It makes sense since you gain at least 1 exp every turn with your song up, I’m already a couple levels ahead of everyone else. Yeah that's a common experience.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Is it just me or does Music Note level up SUPER fast? It makes sense since you gain at least 1 exp every turn with your song up, I’m already a couple levels ahead of everyone else. You see, its a balancing mechanism to make sure you play on a harder difficulty
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Control Volume posted:You see, its a balancing mechanism to make sure you play on a harder difficulty That, and classes in Gloomhaven tend to be on an advancement spectrum of money to XP. Music Note is just really weighted towards XP.
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Rosalie_A posted:That, and classes in Gloomhaven tend to be on an advancement spectrum of money to XP. Music Note is just really weighted towards XP. Goes for perks as well, since some classes / builds rely far more on their modifier decks than others (Music Note being an example where the damage build is utterly reliant on a good set of perks while a more support role is not) It does mean there are balance issues for PQs though.
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Lol the music note got the two-mini quest where you needed to kill 20 different enemies and we all went "huh?? How long is it going to take this class to do this?" The answer was 7 scenarios. Im guessing a lot of people go through a similar mental journey with that class where they realize just how ridiculous the basic attacks are. Oh and naturally they went from level 4 to 9 in that time lmfao
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Yeah I loved Music Note when I started, but after the first dozen scenarios, upgrading the bottom of that card, filling out a bunch of perks and getting the solo scenario item, I just wanted to nerf the class. Just so ridiculously overpowered in a 4 person group. We were just sleepwalking through level 7 difficulty.
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