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Digamma-F-Wau posted:Morbi mentioned that one thing that really sapped their motivation (I don't remember them actually saying they hated making comics) was that their hard drive crashed and so the original full resolution versions of the first few chapters were lost, resulting in making so that they would have to redo the art of the first few chapters if they ever wanted to physically publish it note to aspiring comics artists: google drive is free
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 06:08 |
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Cup Runneth Over posted:note to everyone whose data preservation plan is "hope my hard drive doesn't die": google drive is free
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 07:50 |
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I'm still gonna do comics, but I'm going to stick to like, either gag strips or manageable one-shots for the foreseeable future. I'm not even going to consider doing anything that would push past 150 pages for a while, at least not by myself. Part of the reason I let Poppy balloon so much in scale was that I really wasn't expecting to commit to it past the first 25 pages or for it to gain an audience at all, which is also why I didn't make any real push to monetize it until people asked me to make a patreon. Anyway, hindsight's 20/20, your first work has to stumble so your next one can run, all that. You better believe I'm going to cannibalize all of the cool poo poo I didn't get to use in Poppy and stick them in other things.
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 18:50 |
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Digamma-F-Wau posted:Morbi mentioned that one thing that really sapped their motivation (I don't remember them actually saying they hated making comics) was that their hard drive crashed and so the original full resolution versions of the first few chapters were lost, resulting in making so that they would have to redo the art of the first few chapters if they ever wanted to physically publish it gently caress it, throw it in Waifu2X and call it a day, that poo poo's magic.
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 19:23 |
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MikeJF posted:gently caress it, throw it in Waifu2X and call it a day, that poo poo's magic. Oh what the gently caress you aren't kidding It's not exactly having the original PSD files, but drat, guess I gotta dedicate an afternoon to converting all my old pages
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 19:47 |
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QC once again poking the dystopian bear.
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# ? Jan 13, 2020 15:16 |
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I dunno why Roko is so angry, I want to do stuff all the time and my body doesn't let me. Like putting in eyedrops, or going to sleep, or not being gripped by existential panic at random intervals. Hers is at least tuned to be productive!
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# ? Jan 13, 2020 15:29 |
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Eh, we've got hazard protection. All the adrenaline stories you hear are the obvious, but even beyond that there's simple things like the fact that a human could pretty easily bite through one of our fingers at full force, but a limiter kicks in and sets a maximum bite force if we ever tried.
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# ? Jan 13, 2020 16:23 |
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Keep in mind that it's also new to her, as her old model body presumably didn't have the stuff. Imagine waking up one day and finding out you cannot control your body as fully as you used to? With some external control placed upon you? That's loving terrifying.
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# ? Jan 13, 2020 19:25 |
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Yeah, she's still dealing with the mental fallout of feeling like it's not really her body. This is not helping.
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# ? Jan 13, 2020 19:28 |
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So was my Poppy theory that Twee Darling had some kind of shadowy intangibility power correct?
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 01:26 |
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Dr Christmas posted:So was my Poppy theory that Twee Darling had some kind of shadowy intangibility power correct? Twee's Lucky Star was the classic "always lucky" powerset taken to an extreme in that, in a setting in which many worlds interpretation is in effect, timelines in which she is hurt or fails at something cannot be produced. Fantomet calls Twee "a brat who can't be touched" because she only knows how to discipline through force, which obviously doesn't work on her.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 02:41 |
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Morbi posted:Twee's Lucky Star was the classic "always lucky" powerset taken to an extreme in that, in a setting in which many worlds interpretation is in effect, timelines in which she is hurt or fails at something cannot be produced. Fantomet calls Twee "a brat who can't be touched" because she only knows how to discipline through force, which obviously doesn't work on her.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 05:05 |
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PetraCore posted:Does this mean that Twee is the most powerful character in the setting, or can she still fail at stuff that's, like, physically impossible for her to accomplish? The upper limit of ways the universe will bend over backwards to provide improbable opportunities for her to exploit is high (ex: if you detonated an unstoppable nuclear explosive right next to her, she would be saved by getting caught in a teleportation spell gone wildly off-target). There was even one bit of dialogue where a character theorized that if she were to run full force at a wall, the universe may have responded by having every single atom in her body simultaneously quantum tunnel past it in perfect formation rather than let her get hurt, which is, to put it simply, "not especially likely." But if something is actually 100% physically impossible for her to do, that will usually be resolved by her simply not wanting to do it. She's actually cognizant of the fact that her agency is directly limited by the nature of her power, which gives her a unique viewpoint on the "Fate v. Free Will" dichotomy the story was building up to.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 08:51 |
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MechaCrash posted:Yeah, she's still dealing with the mental fallout of feeling like it's not really her body. This is not helping. It's just a toaster. Its problems could be fixed with a software update that stopped those "feelings". If the writer wanted to tell a story about human problems, he should use characters that are human. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 10:30 |
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ChubbyChecker posted:It's just a toaster. Its problems could be fixed with a software update that stopped those "feelings". If the writer wanted to tell a story about human problems, he should use characters that are human. he actually had the deus ex machina robot say that they could do that, but decided it'd be wrong to change how a mind works
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 10:44 |
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Cat Mattress posted:he actually had the deus ex machina robot say that they could do that, but decided it'd be wrong to change how a mind works Is fixing bad coding immoral in QC world?
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 11:22 |
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It's also canon that AI sentience is an emergent property and cannot normally be tuned. Which is why May "i could have been a fighter jet" can even exist and why AI jails are a thing.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 11:22 |
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ChubbyChecker posted:It's just a toaster. Its problems could be fixed with a software update that stopped those "feelings". If the writer wanted to tell a story about human problems, he should use characters that are human. What's the point of reading something if you don't want to engage with the basic premises.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 12:29 |
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If Humanity ever does create true AI there's no way that we don't impart our horniness to our creation. Also probably our dumbass-ness.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 14:06 |
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habeasdorkus posted:If Humanity ever does create true AI there's no way that we don't impart our horniness to our creation. Also probably our dumbass-ness. Humanity has created true emergent AI, and they're all monstrous sociopaths.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 14:57 |
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ChubbyChecker posted:It's just a toaster. Its problems could be fixed with a software update that stopped those "feelings". If the writer wanted to tell a story about human problems, he should use characters that are human. If you don’t like sci fi, you can just say so
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 15:38 |
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Yeah I feel like "examining the human condition by reflecting it off a non-human" is sci-fi 101
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 15:47 |
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Cat Mattress posted:he actually had the deus ex machina robot say that they could do that, but decided it'd be wrong to change how a mind works ah, an anti-medication (anti-therapy?) parable "Charles Stross talks Roko's Basilisk" is the tubgirl of words A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Jan 14, 2020 |
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Morbi posted:The upper limit of ways the universe will bend over backwards to provide improbable opportunities for her to exploit is high (ex: if you detonated an unstoppable nuclear explosive right next to her, she would be saved by getting caught in a teleportation spell gone wildly off-target). There was even one bit of dialogue where a character theorized that if she were to run full force at a wall, the universe may have responded by having every single atom in her body simultaneously quantum tunnel past it in perfect formation rather than let her get hurt, which is, to put it simply, "not especially likely." I'm just imagining Alia from the end of Dune but it's Twee yelling that she's the kwitzach haderach and the Reverend Mother is Fantomet. This amuses me. Also Morbi please add that reply-tweet about Poda playing Chicadino playing Poda that I linked in my last post to the twitter Moment, it seems a mildly worthwhile plot note that's hidden
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 16:06 |
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Archenteron posted:Also Morbi please add that reply-tweet about Poda playing Chicadino playing Poda that I linked in my last post to the twitter Moment, it seems a mildly worthwhile plot note that's hidden Oh yeah thanks Some of the reply chains slipped past my attention while I was compiling it.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 16:45 |
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:"Charles Stross talks Roko's Basilisk" is the tubgirl of words To be fair, he's correct that Roko's Basilisk is an idiotic concept that's essentially Pascal's Wager for hipster tech bros. Huh, I even remember reading this and I forgot about it. It's an interesting argument, but IMO falls apart when you can consider that any organized mass of humaniuty is different only in degree and form. It's not like major business entities didn't exist during the Roman era, or that many of his points about a corporation would apply to the Catholic Church. e: or, y'know, every form of government ever. habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Jan 14, 2020 |
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habeasdorkus posted:many of his points about a corporation would apply to the Catholic Church. They absolutely do apply to churches and states.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 20:45 |
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He also has a very ‘history was static until the moderns’ take at the beginning which just immediately turned me off. Every era saw change.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 21:58 |
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Joe Slowboat posted:He also has a very history was static until the moderns take at the beginning which just immediately turned me off. Every era saw change. This is very off topic, so please forgive me- but one very, very small time writer that comments at Charlie's place does a pretty good job grappling with some of those issues about people in a fantasy setting- Graydon Saunders. He's got a serious ax to grind re: Amazon's publishing platform, so the only real way to get his books is via Google Play, but it's really damned good and I feel like I need to evangelize him since he's so small time. I got to proofread for his most recent book, which is just about to come out and which is very, very good. The series starts with The March North.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 22:20 |
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Joe Slowboat posted:He also has a very ‘history was static until the moderns’ take at the beginning which just immediately turned me off. Every era saw change. Side note, this is why I always laugh when fantasy stories talk about hundreds of thousands of years of peace.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 22:48 |
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:ah, an anti-medication (anti-therapy?) parable I don't think it was meant to be anti-medication or anti-therapy, because that's a level of direct manipulation that does not currently have a parallel for humans. The given reason is that it's such a gross violation of the sanctity of the mind ("gross" here being used in its scale sense, not disgusting sense, although it can do some double duty here) that Spooky Cluster AI absolutely refuses to do it because that's one of the few principles they holds themselves to, because if Spooky Cluster AI doesn't hold themselves accountable, who will? Who can? But I suspect there's also a bit of "and here's why this character, who I intend to have stick around, isn't just magically fixing Roko's massive mental issues, despite a demonstrated ability to do so." And I think Jeph is taking some meds himself so I don't think he'd be on the anti-medication train. Plus there's Bubbles, who is an example of why having someone gently caress with your mind in order to smooth over problems may not turn out the way you'd hope. (For those recently joining us: Bubbles the combat AI had PTSD, she asked to have the relevant memories partitioned off and encrypted, the problem is that this was done by an unethical rear end in a top hat who used the key as leverage, except it turns out WHOOPS she hosed up and deleted them and now those memories Bubbles had are just gone so now she has different problems.)
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 23:00 |
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Yeah, Jeph from past statements is not at all a fan of the anti-med/therapy posse. Much, much more the case that Spookybot needs some self-constraints to avoid becoming AM.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 23:51 |
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:ah, an anti-medication (anti-therapy?) Not directly altering the mind seems more like; Try medication and therapy instead of frivolous brain surgery.
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 00:51 |
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I think it'd be a lot easier to sympathize/give a poo poo about this whole body-dysmorphia-trauma-whatever character arc if Roko's new body actually looked different from her old one. I mean, it kiiiinda does, but only in the way that every character does due to shifting art style over time. Also this thread has just taught me about the concept of Roko['s] Basilisk and it's not actually a kind of creative original name but rather a reference (and not even a clever veiled one) to some dumb bullshit. TwoPair fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Jan 15, 2020 |
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TwoPair posted:I think it'd be a lot easier to sympathize/give a poo poo about this whole body-dysmorphia-trauma-whatever character arc if Roko's new body actually looked different from her old one. I mean, it kiiiinda does, but only in the way that every character does due to shifting art style over time. Complain about QC writing all you want it's not exactly high art but the entire point is that the differences are tiny and nearly imperceptible to anyone except her.
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 02:09 |
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A surprise showed up in one of my (many many) unpruned, non-updating RSS feeds. Kukuburi updated. It was last updated, according to the news post, 8 years and 4 days ago. The author didn't expand on the absence beyond "life happened". I barely remember anything about the comic. I think this is the longest I've ever seen a comic go on hiatus and actually return. Usually their hosting breaks down after a few years, then they get squatted on by a Japanese blogger or a domain reseller.
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 02:32 |
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Speaking of things on hiatus, does anyone know what's going on with The Sisters? It's been on break since finishing a book in August.
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 02:39 |
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On Monster Pulse...well now, they have been building to this for a while, but this is one way to have a literal heart to heart
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 05:29 |
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Just want to say thanks to whoever referenced Latchkey Kingdom in this thread, it was a charming discovery. It has a lot of the idiosyncracies webcomics often have (the very unnecessary Xmas storylines stand out there) but it has a lot of heart, charming art, and honestly I could use some extremely webcomics content sometimes. It's on my read list now.
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