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blossommirage posted:Jesus Christ, is that real? That's literally just a palette swap. to be fair, gatomon has a shitton of palette swaps (Mikemon and BlackTailmon too).
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Leraika posted:to be fair, gatomon has a shitton of palette swaps (Mikemon and BlackTailmon too). Yeah, but for a Digimon that's part of the main cast, that seems kinda weird.
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Jan 20, 2020 02:23
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blossommirage posted:Yeah, but for a Digimon that's part of the main cast, that seems kinda weird. Off the top of my head, the only ones that don't have a palette swap are Tentomon and Gomamon.
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Jan 20, 2020 02:46
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Leraika posted:Off the top of my head, the only ones that don't have a palette swap are Tentomon and Gomamon. Yeah, but Koromon isn't a strict recolor of Tsunomon. They all had different designs. It feels kinda weird for a new Digimon that's part of the main cast to have stages that are recolors of another Digimon that is also part of the main cast.
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Jan 20, 2020 03:04
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Saves time on making new game models. Load up its original, change a texture, compile.
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Jan 20, 2020 03:09
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Fair enough, yeah.
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Jan 20, 2020 03:09
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Can’t forget that every single notable Digimon has a black recolor “evil twin” version with the suffix “Black-“ attached. Even ones who already had evil duplicates. Including some who were already villains.
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Burkion posted:One thing I like about the PSP game- the extra side missions that you can do are basically just what Digimon season 1 filler would be like if the show had the time for filler and that's neat A bunch of the filler episodes in the PSP game were pretty forgettable, being more or less an excuse to reuse areas or bosses, but there were a couple that were great. One standout was the episode where you teamed up with Ogremon (yes that one), who is trying very hard to pretend he's a totally different Ogremon. Kortel posted:Saves time on making new game models. Load up its original, change a texture, compile. I believe most of the early era recolors (IE: the ones with different names) were created to be regular enemies in the original Digimon World. It was an easy way to separate between digimon you could recruit to the city and digimon you couldn't. Thus you could recruit Agumon or Vegiemon or Bakemon but you couldn't get Snow Agumon or Zassoumon or Soulmon. This wasn't 100% (You couldn't get either Goblimon or Shamamon for instance), but as a rule of thumb it worked. Incidentally Gomamon wasn't in the game at all and Tentomon was a one-off NPC which is probably the reason why neither of them got recolors from this era.
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Geostomp posted:Can’t forget that every single notable Digimon has a black recolor “evil twin” version with the suffix “Black-“ attached. Even ones who already had evil duplicates. Including some who were already villains. A friend of mine asked me if Digimon Story was worth checking out now that the complete edition is out and I said sure, why not. I now get weekly messages from them about "what the gently caress is this bullshit?" re: Digimon naming conventions and I just go "Yep. That's Digimon." Reboot of Adventure looks interested. Even if it's literally just Adventure... Again, I'm open to it.
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Jan 20, 2020 08:26
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Digimon names are just the most hilarious thing in the world Just whatever dumb bullshit, add mon at the end, you're gold.
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.mon is the file extension, obv.Omnicrom posted:I believe most of the early era recolors (IE: the ones with different names) were created to be regular enemies in the original Digimon World. It was an easy way to separate between digimon you could recruit to the city and digimon you couldn't. Thus you could recruit Agumon or Vegiemon or Bakemon but you couldn't get Snow Agumon or Zassoumon or Soulmon. This wasn't 100% (You couldn't get either Goblimon or Shamamon for instance), but as a rule of thumb it worked. Yeah basically.
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I'd like them to get away from more knights and angel and demon Megas and bring back more giant dinosaurs and bugs and dragons. More Super Mega DNA fusions would be cool too.
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Leraika posted:.mon is the file extension, obv.
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I'm going to give Appmon a real shot, see if it's just me being a grumpy old person or not, but I want to say from the outset I hate the Appmon designs. The actual Appmon Digimon. And Kid me wouldn't have liked them either. So at least on a visual front, that's one thing I know Child Me wouldn't have liked.
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Leraika posted:.mon is the file extension, obv. I now accept this as my personal canon.
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Omnicrom posted:I now accept this as my personal canon.  Headcanon. 
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Meiko’s line being similar to Tailmon’s doesn’t bother me because that was literally the point. They’re thematically opposites to one another. A partner with something that makes them different from the others by being adult level, is a cat, and turns into an Angel eventually, plus they belong to a new cast member - except her existence is the result of a dangerous accident and isn’t a projected savior but the near-reincarnation of a destructive entity. Then the two opposites combine with one another into something even more wrong. Say whatever you will about the execution of Meiko and Meikoomon’s characters but their designs being similar is them Working As Intended and for that reason doesn’t bother me.
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Burkion posted:I'm going to give Appmon a real shot, see if it's just me being a grumpy old person or not, but I want to say from the outset That's fair. Some Appmon designs are pretty good (Offmon may genuinely be the most adorable design in the entire series which is one hell of a thing), some are garbage. That said, the series itself is one of the best in the franchise. Slow beginning, but once it gets going, it gets going and never stops. It also has the center of the universe, Karan Eri-sama, who is a female character with actual importance, competence and development rivalling if not surpassing the actual protagonist and that's something I will always enjoy.
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Nodosaur posted:Meiko’s line being similar to Tailmon’s doesn’t bother me because that was literally the point. They’re thematically opposites to one another. A partner with something that makes them different from the others by being adult level, is a cat, and turns into an Angel eventually, plus they belong to a new cast member - except her existence is the result of a dangerous accident and isn’t a projected savior but the near-reincarnation of a destructive entity. Then the two opposites combine with one another into something even more wrong. Similar is fine. Meicoomon and Gatomon, Meicrackmon and Angewomon, and both Raguelmon and Rasielmon and Ophanimon feel suitably distinct from each other. The rookie being an unnamed recolor is just laziness, though, especially since this'd be a chance to finally have a proper cat Rookie.
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Those things have never shown up outside of an app, so I don’t give them any consideration, tbh.
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Nodosaur posted:I’m sorry I don’t respect the sanctity of poo poo like Mimi’s little brother and Takeru having a different dad and the obliteration of any instances of more than three seconds of silence or anything resembling consistent tone. The samurai pizza cats dub is superior to the original and it's time to accept that
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The Adventure dub wishes it could be as memorably shlocky as that show
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Nodosaur posted:I’m sorry I don’t respect the sanctity of poo poo like Mimi’s little brother and Takeru having a different dad and the obliteration of any instances of more than three seconds of silence or anything resembling consistent tone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHrynLSZ2qc  Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOJr1dTPSis Unmodified version of the scene in the sub, since the previous video chops it up a bit. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Jan 21, 2020 |
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I'm forgiving of them including little gags like Mimi's brother when they didn't know her family situation or had any idea they'd be getting there. The TK Matt thing was purely a mistranslation/miscommunication, and one they pointedly fixed later. No different than adapting any on going property to another language. The dub didn't have that big of a head start on the Japanese version, remember. While the music is worse in the dub, the character given to the Digimon themselves is often much better. Unique, memorable voices, that often result in some great, if dumb, moments. and I think a good number of people would agree that the Tamers dub is superior in some respects to the Japanese version. At least for me, Ryo just being Another Person from the Tamers universe makes infinitely more sense than trying to shoehorn in the game fanfiction character for no drat reason. Gallantmon also fits Takato and Guilmon far better Dukemon, and his way of speaking, makes sense for the character of Dukemon in a vacuum. When he's part of the Royal Knights, a preexisting and unrelated entity. Gallantmon just talking like Takato/Guilmon but slightly more mature is perfect, because why would they change how they talk?
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The dub doesn’t change anything about Ryou’s story at all. The games with his backstory just didn’t come out here. I don’t know where you’re getting that he’s “just another person from the Tamers universe” when the dub doesn’t say anything about that at all. And they still had Takeru say they were half brothers in the Tri dub, so that little bit of incompetence lingers. Dub Dukemon would be better if his voice in the dub weren’t an ear splitting yowl that was unintelligible most of the time.
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I mean you can’t say someone is just another person without confirming they are in fact not another person. Defeats the point
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Burkion posted:I'm forgiving of them including little gags like Mimi's brother when they didn't know her family situation or had any idea they'd be getting there. One of the things I've actually come to appreciate in later years was Jeff Nimoy writing and voicing Tentomon as having a lowkey crush on Izzy. He was wowed by his genius and one of the few people on the show who until the Adoption Talk who really appreciated Izzy for who he was naturally, not who he tried to be.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean you can’t say someone is just another person without confirming they are in fact not another person.
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PMush Perfect posted:You could say two characters are cousins? Relations make you somebody!
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Dukemon speaking like a cheesy as heck royal knight with Guilmon's childish voice is like the best part of Dukemon and is the perfect evolution of him as a character... as opposed to the dub which depicts Gallantmon as yet another generic strong Ultimate/Mega like Imperialdramon or whoever. The Tamers dub isn't that bad, especially in comparison to the abysmal Adventure dub, and mostly respects the material, but to say it's anywhere as great as the original Japanese version is straight up wrong. The biggest differences are in the characters themselves. The dude who plays Takoto in the dub never hits the emotional highs and anguish of Makoto Tsumura. Same deal with Ruki, who loses much of her cool demeanor and vulnerability in the dub vs. Fumiko Orikasa's wonderful performance. Cough Drop The Beat fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Jan 21, 2020 |
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I'm pretty sure the dub straight up says that Ryo is from the Tamers' universe, and was a rival of Rika's in the card games before he hosed off to the Digital World. They also pointedly don't explain the nonsense with his Digimon as being 'because he was reborn from a dumb video game boss' and just 'he's really strong and always looking for a fight'
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Burkion posted:I'm pretty sure the dub straight up says that Ryo is from the Tamers' universe, and was a rival of Rika's in the card games before he hosed off to the Digital World. I don't why you're so stuck on this. Ryo is a fun reference to the Wonderswan games. What's wrong with that? Do you hate fun?
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Burkion posted:I'm pretty sure the dub straight up says that Ryo is from the Tamers' universe, and was a rival of Rika's in the card games before he hosed off to the Digital World. Both of these did happen, I didn’t understand at all what his deal was supposed to be as a kid but looking back I do appreciate it leading me down a rabbit hole of Digimon content when I looked it up.
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Burkion posted:I'm pretty sure the dub straight up says that Ryo is from the Tamers' universe, and was a rival of Rika's in the card games before he hosed off to the Digital World. The stuff about him being Ruki’s rival is from the original too. They also never mention Cyberdramon’s origin in the show, in either version. Tamers doesn’t bring up the events of the WonderSwan games at all. They can be ignored if you want to. But the official case is that Ryou was born in the Adventure universe, came to the Tamers universe, and started his life over there. The dub doesn’t weigh in on or against this whatsoever.
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'fun' and 'wonderswan' don't belong in the same sentence
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We like to have fun here in the SomethingAwful thread for a children's show about digital monsters.
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PMush Perfect posted:We like to have fun here in the SomethingAwful thread for a children's show about digital monsters. Keeping things light and breezy shouldn’t really be a license for Burk to say stuff that is actively untrue.
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We like to be in the right here in the SomethingAwful thread for a children's show about digital monsters.
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I just don't like that a lot of Rika being cool and independent kind of seemed like it got thrown out of the window when Ryo showed up.
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