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pospysyl posted:Did you read the book or this article about it? If you did read the book, how'd you get access to it? It sounds fascinating. My local university library has a copy. Not OP but I assume something like that. Check WorldCat
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pospysyl posted:Did you read the book or this article about it? If you did read the book, how'd you get access to it? It sounds fascinating. both. my uni’s library has a copy of the book, which I will now be scanning into a pdf to keep because it’s impossible to find otherwise
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chernobyl kinsman posted:both. my uni’s library has a copy of the book, which I will now be scanning into a pdf to keep because it’s impossible to find otherwise there's a pdf on libgen
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chernobyl kinsman posted:both. my uni’s library has a copy of the book, which I will now be scanning into a pdf to keep because it’s impossible to find otherwise auf deutsch they had a reprinting somewhat recently (like 2k16) so clearly all that needs to happen is for the estate to give me, forums poster tree goat, permission to translate and print it in english, as is the case for all of the books in the genre of "surreal and slightly upsetting vergangenheitsbewältigung"
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Wow, thanks for sharing, read about 1/3 last night when I should have been sleeping.
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I'm about to read The Merchant of Venice again. We talked in class s little about the Al Pacino Shylock and all I could think of was him channeling Tony Montana. 80s neon and lo fi film effect H'okay mang, we gonna get this flesh, mang.
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chernobyl kinsman posted:i read this and it whips that was really good and I'm gunna be thinking about it for a long time. thanks again for sharing
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yo cyclonopedia rips wasnt sure at first because initially it feels like reading mars volta lyrics but then it starts to blossom into something sweet
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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:yo cyclonopedia rips Just ordered that and Textermination. I finished Warlight by Michael Ondaatje and was pretty disappointed. The sentences and paragraphs were all good by themselves but it fell apart when it got to the larger structures like most chapters (some were cool) and the book itself. For a narrative which says it wants to and has very many opportunities to address morally difficult situations and questions, it sure never gets around to it.
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I kinda want to read that one but feel like I should grind my horny loser levels with Herzog and Rabbit, Run first.
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neither of those other books have antisemitic hand jobs or personally offended nixon so Roth wins again
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im a little ways in to "the name of the rose" and for once im glad i went to catholic school because i feel like i'd be having a way harder time if i didn't already know what a lot of these terms mean also how the gently caress is this one of the best selling books of all time? like don't get me wrong it's great but it doesn't exactly strike me as a book with mass appeal
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Tim Burns Effect posted:im a little ways in to "the name of the rose" and for once im glad i went to catholic school because i feel like i'd be having a way harder time if i didn't already know what a lot of these terms mean There was a Sean Connery movie in the eighties which was hugely popular and made people think the book was a cool detective mystery. F Murray Abraham and Christian Slater were also in it
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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:yo cyclonopedia rips despise this analogy but glad ur enjoying it btw make another occult lit thread cos i cant be bothered
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Tim Burns Effect posted:im a little ways in to "the name of the rose" and for once im glad i went to catholic school because i feel like i'd be having a way harder time if i didn't already know what a lot of these terms mean believe it or not there's millions and millions of people in the intersection of (1) native Italian speakers and (2) Catholics the sean connery film also helped, but a book has to be pretty well known anyway to get turned into a sean connery film
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Weirdly enough, when I was in Italy and talking about books and literature with people, none of them knew who Eco or Calvino were. They were more interested in Hunger Games at the time.
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Franchescanado posted:Weirdly enough, when I was in Italy and talking about books and literature with people, none of them knew who Eco or Calvino were. They were more interested in Hunger Games at the time. 
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How about Ferrante? I don't have a scale for how big she is there vs. how big she is on the internet
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Tim Burns Effect posted:im a little ways in to "the name of the rose" and for once im glad i went to catholic school because i feel like i'd be having a way harder time if i didn't already know what a lot of these terms mean Eco deliberately wrote the first bit of NotR, up to the monastery entrance, to be intimidating. Either you understand it, or you skip over it; if you step into the monastery, you can handle the rest of the book. Also it really is a great story.
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Tim Burns Effect posted:im a little ways in to "the name of the rose" and for once im glad i went to catholic school because i feel like i'd be having a way harder time if i didn't already know what a lot of these terms mean keep reading more Eco after cuz everything he wrote is gold. well Numero Zero is a bit lackluster but he was almost dead so that's ok. Focault's Pendulum and Baudolino are the best maybe but Island of the Day Before is my low key fave it's so weird and cool and nautical
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Heath posted:How about Ferrante? I don't have a scale for how big she is there vs. how big she is on the internet I was in Italy the year before this came out, so it wasn't on anyone's radar. I asked about The Solitude of Prime Numbers, which was really popular at the time, and they hadn't heard of that, either. They were all interested in American authors and American music more than their own writers.
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someone update rawhide kobayashi to make it about americans and italian literature tia
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Heath posted:How about Ferrante? I don't have a scale for how big she is there vs. how big she is on the internet Older Italian guy I work with scoffed at it not being “real literature”. I followed up and it seemed like it was just a ‘women=inferior’ usual amount of idiocy. I’m reading Gargantua and Pantagruel and it’s like a cartoon. I wish the Ren & Stimpy guy wasn’t a sex-pest and had made this into a 100 episode series, instead. The scene-to-scene changes in size and scope of how big things are, the absurdly large and specific numbers (six hundred thousand and fourteen dogs peeing on some lady), the debate which is 4 pages of people sticking their fingers into their faces and making gestures, etc. I finished Don Quixote not too long ago, next is Simplicius, and after will be Tristram Shandy. Any other recommendations for this kind of work?
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a woman who worked at the bookshop in Bergen's house of literature also scoffed at Ferrante
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the ferrante books are good but i didn’t read the last one so
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The North Tower posted:Older Italian guy I work with scoffed at it not being “real literature”. I followed up and it seemed like it was just a ‘women=inferior’ usual amount of idiocy. Anything by Pynchon, V. is especially playful. The Man Who Was Thursday, Celine’s Journey to the End of the Night.
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The North Tower posted:I finished Don Quixote not too long ago, next is Simplicius, and after will be Tristram Shandy. Any other recommendations for this kind of work?
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The North Tower posted:Older Italian guy I work with scoffed at it not being “real literature”. I followed up and it seemed like it was just a ‘women=inferior’ usual amount of idiocy. Place de l'Etoile by Patrick Modiano is in the same ballpark.
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Seven Samurai Swept Away in a River by Jung Young Moon is really funny. I wish I could travel somewhere with him
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i read some book recently where a main character was really disappointed his son just read Three Men in a Boat over and over.
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WatermelonGun posted:i read some book recently where a main character was really disappointed his son just read Three Men in a Boat over and over. are you sure the book wasn't Three Men in a Boat and the disappointed man was your dad?
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ehehehehe no it was actually The Sandcastle by Iris Murdoch i had to look into my library history to remember the title it was a good book, i like books that make academics look like stuffy morons one decision away from ruining their life and the lives of those around them. also my dad reads dumb poo poo like tom clancy worship
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The North Tower posted:I’m reading Gargantua and Pantagruel and it’s like a cartoon. I wish the Ren & Stimpy guy wasn’t a sex-pest and had made this into a 100 episode series, instead. The scene-to-scene changes in size and scope of how big things are, the absurdly large and specific numbers (six hundred thousand and fourteen dogs peeing on some lady), the debate which is 4 pages of people sticking their fingers into their faces and making gestures, etc. I finished Don Quixote not too long ago, next is Simplicius, and after will be Tristram Shandy. Any other recommendations for this kind of work? Water Margin reminded me strongly of Rabelais. The unabridged text is a little intimidating but it's loads of fun throughout. Heath posted:How about Ferrante? I don't have a scale for how big she is there vs. how big she is on the internet She's really huge in France. Each novel in her big trilogy sold 1 million+ copies which barely ever happens for contemporary lit over here.
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The North Tower posted:Older Italian guy I work with scoffed at it not being “real literature”. I followed up and it seemed like it was just a ‘women=inferior’ usual amount of idiocy. Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up To Me by Richard Farina Vonnegut's stuff like Cat's Cradle and Breakfast of Champions is probably on your radar. Roald "anti-semite" Dahl's My Uncle Oswald is very funny and playful and weird, but having not read it in a decade, there may be some off-color/bigot stuff that I didn't notice. Could be wrong, though.
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I think there's a fair chance that the sex comedy about spermjacking famous people could be "off-color".
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Sham bam bamina! posted:I think there's a fair chance that the sex comedy about spermjacking famous people could be "off-color". I meant with anti-antisemitism or racist remarks about the celebrities they're stealing from.
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The North Tower posted:Older Italian guy I work with scoffed at it not being “real literature”. I followed up and it seemed like it was just a ‘women=inferior’ usual amount of idiocy. at swim-two-birds by flann o'brien and ferdydurke by witold gombrowicz are both very fun weird comedic books. the golden rear end by apuleius is the original picaresque 'stuff just happens' and it owns. dead souls by gogol has lots of numbers and is extremely funny. moscow - petushki by venedikt erofeev is about a man getting drunk on a train and is probably the closest out of these to what i assume you want?
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The North Tower posted:Older Italian guy I work with scoffed at it not being “real literature”. is a pretty popular take, actually
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