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I was only kidding with that last part.
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oxsnard posted:I literally met with EPA region 7 enforcement yesterday. Enforcement cases pursued in this region (Midwest) in 2019 were up 20% and fines and penalties were up 50%. They're rolling out a nationwide enforcement focused on RMP inspections with an emphasis on states who do a bad job or enforcing rules. That's great about the Midwest, but overall enforcement is massively down under Trump: quote:Indeed, President Trump’s stated agenda for EPA is to eliminate the agency “in almost every form” and leave behind only “tidbits.” Brady Dennis, EPA Head Defends White House’s Plan for Massive Cuts to His Agency, Wash. Post, June 15, 2017. Beginning in 2017, Trump has consistently sought a greater than 30 percent reduction in spending at EPA, the staff of which is already 8 percent smaller than it was at the start of the current administration. J. Eilperin et al., New EPA Documents Reveal Even Deeper Proposed Cuts to Staff and Programs, Wash. Post, Mar. 31, 2017; B. Dennis et al., With a Shrinking EPA, Trump Delivers on His Promise to Cut Government, Wash. Post, Sept. 8, 2018. The largest cuts at EPA have been those at the Office of Compliance and Enforcement, the staff of which is 16 percent smaller than it was just two years ago. papa horny michael posted:Yeah. People are forgetting the bureaucracy of large organizations is ruled by inertia. Read some Dilbert, you goobers. Yeah and losing 1,500 people is a great way to change organizational inertia: quote:The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) reportedly lost 8 percent of its staff in the first 18 months of President Trump's administration due to high numbers of departing staffers and a low number of new hires. Or there is a great account from someone actually at the EPA quote:Elizabeth Southerland: Without exaggerating, it was fairly traumatic for me and my whole staff. We had worked on that rule for over eight years through very extensive data collection, both from industry and from our own-data collection services. We had also had multiple opportunities for the industry and the public to comment on this rule during this prolonged eight-year process. And what we found happened under the new Trump administration is that Scott Pruitt met with coal industry people and the next day he announced that he was going to reconsider the rule and was going to delay its implementation immediately without ever discussing it, for even five minutes, with those of us who had worked eight years to develop this rule. So I was aware right at the beginning that that’s how this administration was going to operate, the repeal of everything the Obama administration did. Trabisnikof fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Jan 30, 2020 |
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Feldegast42 posted:What if their employment contract regards work that is highly illegal and morally wrong? Would it be alright to violate that contract then? Yeah, and we also hired and repatriated a lot more of them to the US to build our aerospace and military programs. And we helped stabilize the careers of a ton more. Who do you think made up like 70%+ of the West German government up through the 70s? Walter Scheel and Kurt G Kiesinger were both former Party members. Almost 80% of the Ministry of Justice in the late 50s were former members. Hans Globke helped draft the Nuremberg Laws. And that’s not counting all of the many upstanding members of society like Drs and lawyers and businessfolk who were just forgiven, despite many of them having gleefully participated in the destruction of the holocaust. Or all the former soldiers and SS officers who went on to live civilian lives. To get the sort of justice you’re describing in Germany we would’ve had to basically liquidate the country. Mat Cauthon posted:Pretty sure we can find a loophole for guards at the camps who engage in systematic assault and torture of immigrants, up to and including leaving children to sleep in freezing cells and eat frozen, rotting food (when they aren't snatching those children from their parents so they can be "adopted" by white evangelicals off the books). Then you hire a prosecutor and charge them, you dummy. And you send that prosecutor after the people who gave them the orders and you lay out that the conduct was unconscionable and illegal. You don’t use the loophole tactics that the GOP uses to go after climate scientists and NOAA employees. You don’t weaken the regulatory state in the name of progressive goals, because that ultimately always ends up hurting the progressive cause.
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# ? Jan 30, 2020 23:47 |
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Electric Bugaloo posted:You don’t use the loophole tactics that the GOP uses to go after climate scientists and NOAA employees. You don’t weaken the regulatory state in the name of progressive goals, because that ultimately always ends up hurting the progressive cause. Now this is some liberal brainworms poo poo right here. If the GOP has already gone there all on their lonesome, then how exactly is using their own tactics against them going to weaken the regulatory state? This poo poo is already the norm.
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# ? Jan 30, 2020 23:57 |
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Seems like this is one of the big bombs they’re gonna act like will sink Bernie... https://twitter.com/marcushjohnson/status/1222982634235736064?s=21
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 00:03 |
Mahoning posted:Seems like this is one of the big bombs they’re gonna act like will sink Bernie... Lol that’s weak. He’s saying the same things as he’s said about Trump: that Wallace was awful but knows how to appeal to people’s base instincts
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 00:08 |
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Mahoning posted:Seems like this is one of the big bombs they’re gonna act like will sink Bernie... I don't think this is even new. At least re-litigating the F35 program gave us a meanass Bernie photoshop.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 00:08 |
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https://twitter.com/theonion/status/1222989139739660288?s=21
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 00:09 |
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goethe.cx posted:Since we’re on the subject of unions ITT Furries are comrades. They fight for freedom.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 00:12 |
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https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1223020773109063681
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 00:14 |
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Strong defenders of the rights concentration camp guards ITT
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 00:16 |
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That comparison to McGovern and Wallace sounds awfully familiar...as if history repeats or something.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 00:16 |
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Made for VP.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 00:37 |
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https://twitter.com/ZacharySauer4/status/1223027080159469569?s=20 Turns out this lunatic anti Sanders guy is a huge bigot lmao
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 00:48 |
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oxsnard posted:you see, union busting is fine when it lines up with my other ideologies Cops aren't workers so tough titty, you dumb lib
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 00:54 |
oxsnard posted:https://twitter.com/ZacharySauer4/status/1223027080159469569?s=20 How are those two accounts connected? Not that I don't believe it, I'm just curious how that got dug up.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 00:55 |
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https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/742881838100684801?s=20 It wasn't secret, he changed his handle Edit: https://twitter.com/sarahkendzior/status/742855290668748800?s=20
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 00:57 |
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Unoriginal Name posted:Strong defenders of the rights concentration camp guards ITT Weird thing about human rights is some humans are bad.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 01:01 |
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PerniciousKnid posted:Weird thing about human rights is some humans are bad. Tell me more about the human right to work as a concentration camp guard.
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Oh he's one of those guys who rebranded to be taken seriously but didn't actually learn anything.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 01:04 |
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Cerebral Bore posted:Tell me more about the human right to work as a concentration camp guard. I don't think anyone here likes ICE agents, but if you can't comprehend why a single elected official being allowed to circumvent Congress and fire 20,000 union employees sets a dangerous standard than I don't know what to tell you. Like, Sanders has to operate within the law or he'll fail, you do understand that, right?
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 01:07 |
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Sanders looking like he will go 3/4 or 2/3 in the early primaries/caucuses. I am not the biggest fan of the 538 model giving Sanders a 10% chance of receiving 11% of the vote (Gephardt 04) in IA. It still has Biden at 1/2 of winning the nom (1700 delegates to 1300). Feel like it is too back-ended because it might not be pricing in an IA bounce for Sanders or other candidates dropping out & having their support go to Sen. Sanders. drawkcab si eman ym fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Jan 31, 2020 |
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This 1972 Sanders article is just another sad example of him publicly criticizing members of the Democratic party in an election year
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 01:17 |
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Donald Trump was right about the media lol
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oxsnard posted:I don't think anyone here likes ICE agents, but if you can't comprehend why a single elected official being allowed to circumvent Congress and fire 20,000 union employees sets a dangerous standard than I don't know what to tell you. Tell me more about how running concentration camps is totally fine under international law. E: Or to be less facetious, the good part about America being a demon cracker nation is that you could nail most everybody that needs nailing on human rights violations if the will was there. Cerebral Bore fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Jan 31, 2020 |
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Cerebral Bore posted:Tell me more about how running concentration camps is totally fine under international law. I'm all for sending the people responsible for crimes to be sent to the Hague but your histrionics has exactly gently caress all to do with unilaterally dissolving a union and firing all employees, jfc
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 01:22 |
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oxsnard posted:I'm all for sending the people responsible for crimes to be sent to the Hague but your histrionics has exactly gently caress all to do with unilaterally dissolving a union and firing all employees, jfc Just because you call yourself a union doesn't make you one, which is another thing you liberals need to start understanding and fast. Cop unions aren't unions.
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drawkcab si eman ym posted:Sanders looking like he will go 3/4 or 2/3 in the early primaries/caucuses. 538 had an article today looking at historical polling before Iowa versus the actual result. There’s a shitload of variation and unexpected results hence the wide interval
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oxsnard posted:I'm all for sending the people responsible for crimes to be sent to the Hague but your histrionics has exactly gently caress all to do with unilaterally dissolving a union and firing all employees, jfc ICE and CBP need to be completely ended. Not reformed or fixed. They need to not exist. So yes. Dissolve the union and fire every employee. And the president can do that.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 01:25 |
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John Wick of Dogs posted:This 1972 Sanders article is just another sad example of him publicly criticizing members of the Democratic party in an election year Bad omen for Clinton 16. Lack of party apparatus probably hurts him in the general.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 01:26 |
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I think its reasonable for CBP guards who knowingly allowed or failed to prevent harm to those in their care to keep their pensions, layoff payouts, and their voting rights in prison. edit: after restitution of course.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 01:27 |
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goethe.cx posted:538 had an article today looking at historical polling before Iowa versus the actual result. There’s a shitload of variation and unexpected results hence the wide interval Yeah hard to predict Iowa caucus turnout especially, which ends up hurting the predictive model for the entire Dem nomination. Wonder how the other predictive markets see things differently than the New York Times-owned 538 run by Uni of Chicago Alum Nate Silver.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 01:31 |
Pete canvassers can't even convince the people letting them stay in their homes to vote for Pete https://twitter.com/PeteForAmerica/status/1222897525243305984?s=20
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mcmagic posted:ICE and CBP need to be completely ended. Not reformed or fixed. They need to not exist. So yes. Dissolve the union and fire every employee. And the president can do that. ICE and CBP absolutely need to be ended, but it is also a really bad idea to normalize the President busting public employee unions. Fire the management. Re-direct all of the employees to perform other duties and then get the bill to abolish ICE/CBP passed. Send everyone complicit to the Hague.
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KIM JONG TRILL posted:ICE and CBP absolutely need to be ended, but it is also a really bad idea to normalize the President busting public employee unions. Fire the management. Re-direct all of the employees to perform other duties and then get the bill to abolish ICE/CBP passed. Send everyone complicit to the Hague. Correct, but why you gotta be such a lib?
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 01:33 |
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Gripweed posted:Pete canvassers can't even convince the people letting them stay in their homes to vote for Pete Doesn't this violate the third amendment?
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 01:34 |
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You don't even have to fire anyone. As I've said before there are a million ways by with a Bernie admin can completely neuter ICE.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 01:34 |
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1. Iowa elections officials are anticipating 25-30% increase in participation this year. I follow a few of the local officials on Twitter and they kvetch about how hard it’s been to find locations big enough for expected turnout. They are stressed as hell rn. 2. $27 more to Bernie over this dumb George Wallace poo poo. We will teach our enemies the lesson over and over: smear him with poo poo and we’ll turn it into gold.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 01:42 |
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I am sad nobody likes my idea of relocating them to the Alaska/Canada border
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Cerebral Bore posted:Just because you call yourself a union doesn't make you one, which is another thing you liberals need to start understanding and fast. Cop unions aren't unions. Okay- first off, don't adopt that loving language with us. We are not "liberals" and you are not lefter than we are because we understand the difference between a lawless president and a president who operates under the framework that they are attempting to uphold and maintain. You don't bring about a dramatic leftward shift in the country, a shift for "bigger government", and immediately start playing legal calvinball like that. I mean, just from the outset- he'd be hammered by a Supreme Court lawsuit that he'd undoubtedly lose. Now before you say "what about court packing-" that IS within the rules of the game. Congress has the power to pack the courts if they want. A president does not have the power to unilaterally dissolve an agency, and that precedent shouldn't be set. At this point I'm fairly certain you're either a gimmick poster or a concern troll or exactly the kind of "activist" that Bernie Sanders doesn't need. Go participate in some real antifa poo poo if that will make you feel accomplished but accusing us of being fascist sympathizers is horseshit that will accomplish nothing for you.
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