The Cipher was cool, I'll probably pick up a physical copy when the reprint comes out.
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Big Mad Drongo posted:I actually disliked The Ruins and The Deep for the same reason: they both seemed like excuses to torture unpleasant people to death. I don't mind books full of unlikeable characters, but those two seemed to be full of cardboard cutouts designed to die for your reading pleasure. Yeah, I'd second these, though I liked The Deep anyway (but certainly not as much as The Cipher).
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# ? Feb 8, 2020 00:00 |
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who just couldn't get into The Ruins. It has so many thematic elements I love but somehow despite being a perfect mishmash of my fave tropes it felt like the book equivalent of reading a really sarcastic editorial. If I want to read about assholes getting their just desserts that badly I'll reread Peter Watts or watch the Twilight Zone.
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# ? Feb 8, 2020 03:19 |
the ruins is, and i am not being hyperbolic, one of the top 3 worst books i have ever read in my life
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# ? Feb 8, 2020 10:41 |
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http://www.thebramstokerawards.com/...thomas-ligotti/ Owl Goingback and Thomas Ligotti announced as 2019 HWA lifetime achievement winners. It's kind of bonkers Ligotti didn't have one of those already. Goingback I didn't even realize wrote horror, ha. I have a lot of nieces and I thought he was a kids' book guy. Time to do a back catalogue read I guess! Anyone got any recs of his?
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# ? Feb 8, 2020 12:49 |
Owl Goingback? I don't think I've ever heard of them, are they any good? e: beaten. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Feb 8, 2020 |
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# ? Feb 8, 2020 12:53 |
Just start with Crota, his first novel.
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# ? Feb 8, 2020 15:50 |
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anilEhilated posted:Tangentially related to the Klein talk - where would you folks recommend starting with Ramsey Campbell? Going back a little: Cold Print if you like Lovecraft, The Doll Who Ate His Mother if you don't.
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# ? Feb 8, 2020 16:20 |
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Anomalous Blowout posted:http://www.thebramstokerawards.com/...thomas-ligotti/ quote:OWL GOINGBACK
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 01:52 |
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stokerfolk: please give us a brief description of your life ligotti: ligotti: ligotti:
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 01:57 |
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ligotti: -curls into a fetal position in the corner and starts screaming-
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 02:41 |
owl goingback will attend the ceremony, accept the award with tears, and give a twenty minute speech. ligotti will not attend but will send a small marionette in his stead
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 03:25 |
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he really is one of the only famous horror people i want to be irl friends with, but sadly also one of the ones most likely to have a freezer full of dismembered something. hopefully beef pork goat nonsense
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 04:33 |
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i've always had a thing for puppets and department store mannequins, and also for poles and sicilians, and so i feel a profound sense of kinship with the man
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 04:34 |
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does anyone know anything about ballingrud's background? dad wants to know if he's jewish. i don't think he is though e: please forgive me for my weird intrusive anthropological fascination with horror writers' cultural backgrounds. i have had an interesting life
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 04:40 |
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so what's a good Ligotti entrance point
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 05:44 |
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escape artist posted:so what's a good Ligotti entrance point This is probably bad advice, but I started with The Conspiracy Against the Human Race, and I think it's a great primer to how to think about his stories
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 05:52 |
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I've only read Teatro Grottesco but it was great
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 06:15 |
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escape artist posted:so what's a good Ligotti entrance point
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 06:27 |
teotro grotesco e: N-N-N-NINE BREAKER posted:This is [...] bad advice, but I started with The Conspiracy Against the Human Race
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 07:10 |
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somebody get me ligotti's email so i can stop taking out my sexual frustration on this thread
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 08:20 |
here's an interview with him quote:I politically self-identify as a socialist. I want everyone to be as comfortable as they can be while they’re waiting to die. this is sweet: quote:The farther your thoughts and feelings are from those of the mainstream, the more attached you will become to the writer who speaks for you so. You will feel lucky to have found that writer. And that writer will feel even luckier to have found you
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 08:44 |
i think Annie Wilkes-ing ligotti would be really good for him, emotionally
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 08:47 |
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chernobyl kinsman posted:i think Annie Wilkes-ing ligotti would be really good for him, emotionally hahaha omg quote:For instance, I was a religious fanatic for years when I went to Catholic school. I used to say hundreds of prayers a day and have nightmares about going to hell. Even now my fear of hell may be revived during a panic attack, which causes the peculiar and absurd terrors to arise. In sum, my life has made no sense at all.
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 12:17 |
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quote:Q: What was the first story you ever penned about? quote:Q: There was some mystery surrounding your identity in the beginning of your career. Why do you think that is? Is Thomas Ligotti your real name? Did you find all the speculation annoying? quote:Q: What was it like to see an illustrated novel based on your work? quote:Q: Does it irritate you to hear that some people consider you a nihilist? quote:Q: If you could change one thing about this world we live in what would it be?
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 12:30 |
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he’s truly a gift
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 19:54 |
changing my username to muslim ligotti
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 20:12 |
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Jihadi Ligotti
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 23:07 |
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Thomas Jihatti
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 02:04 |
chernobyl kinsman posted:here's an interview with him If you need anything, and I mean ANYTHING, on the forums then just PM me. I hadn't read this before and, like hallelujah, I think I'm in love with Ligotti now & you just provide the context.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 05:46 |
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i would like to know if ligotti has seen the new cats, and what he thought of it
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 12:50 |
it would cause him to have an episode
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 17:28 |
I read Brian Evenson's Last Days this weekend, and it was really impressive. It's a sort of noire detective story set inside a cult that reveres amputation. Evenson really nails the noire style with the protagonist - it rides the edge of like Dashiell Hammett parody, but it also really works. Some of the body horror is really quite gruesome and affecting, too. I was about to write "two thumbs up", but considering the subject matter, it seemed too much like a terrible pun.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 18:53 |
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I know this thread is a constant cycle of Ligotti Chat and The Time Between The Ligotti Chat, so this recommendation has been made before, but: I've been relistening to the Current 93 collaborations and they're pretty great. 'I Have A Special Plan For This World' is a drat good 22 minutes of 'what if Thomas did spoken word?'
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 20:19 |
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I picked up Teatro Grotesco thanks to the thread and wow. This guy might be the most depressed man alive.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 20:50 |
PsychedelicWarlord posted:This guy might be the most depressed man alive. he's like a black hole
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 20:52 |
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chernobyl kinsman posted:he's like a black hole I think it was you who mentioned this in an earlier post: usually it's not difficult to separate the narrator from the author but this distinction seems completely eroded for Ligotti. Just pure nihilism. it rocks
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PsychedelicWarlord posted:I think it was you who mentioned this in an earlier post: usually it's not difficult to separate the narrator from the author but this distinction seems completely eroded for Ligotti. Just pure nihilism. it rocks ligotti is a pessimist, not a nihilist, which imo is a crucial distinction nihilists can occasionally be possessed of that tedious joie de vivre that posits a contextless existence provides ever greater opportunities for self-actualization and fulfillment, while pessimists are eternally curled up in the most cobwebby corners of the intellectual sphere, mumbling about death nonsense
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PsychedelicWarlord posted:I think it was you who mentioned this in an earlier post: usually it's not difficult to separate the narrator from the author but this distinction seems completely eroded for Ligotti. Just pure nihilism. it rocks all of ligottis narrators sound identical because they are not fictional characters, they are literally just thomas ligotti
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 22:21 |
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hallelujah posted:i'm crying. my boy Thomas Ligotti posted:That day may seem like other days
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